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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Sun Apr 09, 2023 2:09 pm

Lordo wrote:Here is LR claiming that he believes in peace and yet here he is claiming Americans make undetectable war planes.

First of all america has had more planes fall off the sky than any other country but it is always somebody else's fault. That includes warplanes as well as civilian.
Secondly here he is salivating over such power knowing that these planes are given to countries who use them against unarmed civilians. They themselves used them against unarmed civilians with napalm cluster bombs and agent orange munitions.

I mean an idiot normally recognizes his own idiocy and keeps his mouth shut rather than broadcast it for everyone to read.




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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Apr 09, 2023 6:15 pm

Lordo wrote:First of all america has had more planes fall off the sky than any other country but it is always somebody else's fault. That includes warplanes as well as civilian.


Shh... don't tell, in the Iraq war they shot down more of their own planes, than Iraqi ones. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sun Apr 09, 2023 7:15 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Lordo wrote:First of all america has had more planes fall off the sky than any other country but it is always somebody else's fault. That includes warplanes as well as civilian.


Shh... don't tell, in the Iraq war they shot down more of their own planes, than Iraqi ones. :lol: :lol: :lol:

And they also shot a lot of British soldier too. Funny how they call it friendly fire. As if it does not hurt.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:42 pm

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Robin Hood wrote:Apparently Zelenskey has admitted Ukraine is running out of 'bullets' and there will be no offensive until US/NATO supplies them with what they need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoikBxl0xE&t=1s


Assuming of course that what Zelensky says can be trusted.

It could easily be a smokescreen to catch the Russians “flat footed”.

It is more the case that Zelensky doesn’t have enough soldiers left to go on the offensive.

Last few times Russia withdrew it’s forces from places Zelensky claimed to have won those territories.

Russia is not going to be withdrawing anymore.

So come on Zelensky, let’s see you “recapture more territories in Ukraine” from the Russians.


U.S. intelligence leak forces Ukraine to alter spring battle plans against Russia
Of the dozens of Pentagon documents released on the internet, the most critical are about the ongoing war — and where Ukraine is faltering.
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Michael Weiss and James Rushton
Mon, April 10, 2023, 12:04 PM PDT
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-intellige ... 34486.html


Why do I get the feeling that the above story is a bullshit story. :wink:

Who doesn’t believe that the above leak was deliberate by USA/NATO/Zelensky for them to save face, in that there won’t be the much projected “Spring Offensive” by Ukrainian forces against the Russians, to drive the Russians out of ALL the land now claimed by Russia, including Crimea? :roll:

So perhaps the stories are true that Ukraine had depleted most of their professional military personnel in trying to defend the claimed “not so important” Bakhmut and that they have also depleted most of their artillery shells and weapons.

If so, then there is a light at the end of the tunnel for this war coming to an end in Russia’s favour very soon.

Perhaps the whole leak story is a very clever ruse set up by USA/NATO/Zelensky and that the opposite is true, so to catch the Russians off guard by them being complacent and start getting drunk before the fat lady sings? The only problem with this is, using the words “very clever” in the same sentence with USA/NATO/Zelensky regarding the war in Ukraine, is an oxymoron!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Apr 11, 2023 9:50 am

Kikapu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:Apparently Zelenskey has admitted Ukraine is running out of 'bullets' and there will be no offensive until US/NATO supplies them with what they need.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laoikBxl0xE&t=1s


Assuming of course that what Zelensky says can be trusted.

It could easily be a smokescreen to catch the Russians “flat footed”.

It is more the case that Zelensky doesn’t have enough soldiers left to go on the offensive.

Last few times Russia withdrew it’s forces from places Zelensky claimed to have won those territories.

Russia is not going to be withdrawing anymore.

So come on Zelensky, let’s see you “recapture more territories in Ukraine” from the Russians.


U.S. intelligence leak forces Ukraine to alter spring battle plans against Russia
Of the dozens of Pentagon documents released on the internet, the most critical are about the ongoing war — and where Ukraine is faltering.
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Michael Weiss and James Rushton
Mon, April 10, 2023, 12:04 PM PDT
:arrow: :arrow: :arrow:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-intellige ... 34486.html


Why do I get the feeling that the above story is a bullshit story. :wink:

Who doesn’t believe that the above leak was deliberate by USA/NATO/Zelensky for them to save face, in that there won’t be the much projected “Spring Offensive” by Ukrainian forces against the Russians, to drive the Russians out of ALL the land now claimed by Russia, including Crimea? :roll:

So perhaps the stories are true that Ukraine had depleted most of their professional military personnel in trying to defend the claimed “not so important” Bakhmut and that they have also depleted most of their artillery shells and weapons.

If so, then there is a light at the end of the tunnel for this war coming to an end in Russia’s favour very soon.

Perhaps the whole leak story is a very clever ruse set up by USA/NATO/Zelensky and that the opposite is true, so to catch the Russians off guard by them being complacent and start getting drunk before the fat lady sings? The only problem with this is, using the words “very clever” in the same sentence with USA/NATO/Zelensky regarding the war in Ukraine, is an oxymoron!


There have already been some trials to start a Spring offensive but they all failed with terrible losses.
On the other hand the Americans DEMAND from ZelenSKY to start a full scale Spring offensive immediately. Go figure... Perhaps the Americans want this war to finish in a week, and then blame ZelenSKY for the unconditional surrender.

On the other hand ZelenSKY looks fully depressed in all his recent interviews, keeps repeating the "difficult" situation in Bakhmout, where he wastes what's left of his army, and when there's nothing else to say, throws in the humanitarian card, trying to stimulate the emotions of his Western audience.

The man is so mentally messed up from cocaine, that he couldn't even smell the trap when the messenger boy Boris Johnson, blackmailed him in March 22, that if he signs the Istanbul agreements, neither the UK nor USA would accept to be guarantors.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Tue Apr 11, 2023 10:07 am

They mention forming 12 brigades for the spring offensive, where the fuck are they going to create 12 brigades from? If they do indeed exist where the hell were they up to this point?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Tue Apr 11, 2023 12:40 pm

Lordo wrote:They mention forming 12 brigades for the spring offensive, where the fuck are they going to create 12 brigades from? If they do indeed exist where the hell were they up to this point?


I suppose we could pose a similar question about where Russia’s going to get the forces for beefing up its new 800+ miles of border with NATO. Brought about as a result of the war they started …………. In order to prevent the expansion of NATO. Prior to which Finland had been a neutral country for 75 years.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Tue Apr 11, 2023 4:43 pm

A bit convoluted but an interesting article on the results of attempts to trace the source of the recent alleged classified docs release:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/ ... in-ukraine

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Kikapu » Tue Apr 11, 2023 5:32 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:They mention forming 12 brigades for the spring offensive, where the fuck are they going to create 12 brigades from? If they do indeed exist where the hell were they up to this point?


I suppose we could pose a similar question about where Russia’s going to get the forces for beefing up its new 800+ miles of border with NATO. Brought about as a result of the war they started …………. In order to prevent the expansion of NATO. Prior to which Finland had been a neutral country for 75 years.



Actually, Russia does not need to post any more soldiers to it’s border with newly NATO member Finland than what there is already there now. All Russia will do, is to point 10 nukes towards Finland, which Russia can spare from the few thousand they have. All of a sudden, Finland has become a nuclear target by their own desire since there were never any threat to Finland from Russia to begin with. Now there is, created by the stupid Fins! :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Apr 11, 2023 8:51 pm

...of course the Finnish perspective is different. They do not take Putin to be 'normal', someone like you or me if you will, but, a criminal psychopath.

And, isn't it true?

Bloodless those hands, i ask you; the man who would even cheat at the Olympics, never mind murder and intrigue.

...real Fear, there you have it. Overnight literally Finland changed, knowing 75 years 'being' neutral means nothing.
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