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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:24 pm

Ukraine SitRep: Finally A Wonder-Weapon That Does What It Promised To Do

The battle of Avdeevka is about to be finished.

In the early 1990s the U.S. developed a strap on kit for unguided bombs that turned dumb weapons into precise ammunition.
The Joint Direct Attack Munition (JDAM) is ...


... a guidance kit that converts unguided bombs, or "dumb bombs", into all-weather precision-guided munitions. JDAM-equipped bombs are guided by an integrated inertial guidance system coupled to a Global Positioning System (GPS) receiver, giving them a published range of up to 15 nautical miles (28 km). JDAM-equipped bombs range from 500 to 2,000 pounds (230 to 910 kg).[5] The JDAM's guidance system was jointly developed by the United States Air Force and United States Navy, hence the "joint" in JDAM.

The JDAM is not a stand-alone weapon; rather it is a "bolt-on" guidance package that converts unguided gravity bombs into precision-guided munitions (PGMs). The key components of the system are a tail section with aerodynamic control surfaces, a (body) strake kit, and a combined inertial guidance system and GPS guidance control unit.

The JDAM kit, of which more than 500,000 were produced, allowed for the use of large piles of cold-war era bombs with previously unknown precision.

After the 2022 start of the war in Ukraine Russia engaged in a program to develop an equivalent to the JDAM kit. The program was finished by the end of 2023. The Russian version can be strapped onto a 500kg or a 1,500 kilogram dumb bomb extending their range by attaching wings, guidance kit and control surfaces to already existing dumb bombs.

https://www.moonofalabama.org/2024/02/ukraine-sitrep-finally-a-wonder-weapon-that-does-what-it-promised-to-do.html


The Ukrainians should at least be grateful they are fighting the Russians not the Israeli’s! At least the Russian’s respect the ‘white flag’ and abide by the Geneva conventions!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Thu Feb 08, 2024 7:38 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Well, there’s a big surprise:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/ ... in-backers



Putin challenger barred from Russia's presidential election https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68237791.


You really are a ‘one-string-fiddler:roll: ……….. Putin is always behind anything associated with Russia you can drag up as being dodgy!

Do you really think this guy is any threat to Putin? :lol:

Think about it? Can you put yourself up for the position of President of Cyprus, even as the local Mukhtar or even go for a job in the civil service? NO …… because you have to meet certain criteria ! At least in Russia and Cyprus the people get to vote for their President ………. In the UK the people don’t even get the opportunity to vote for the PM, neither do the MP’s the people voted into Parliament. It is a small group within ‘The Party’ greatly influenced by a rather shadowy elite in power behind the scenes that make the decision !

So stop being so juvenile and look at the article. He failed to meet the requirements he needed to go for it ……… so, like you, he puts the blame on Putin.

Navalney got locked up because he broke the Law not because he and his mates were any threat to Putin …….. he and his mates were just shit stirrers financed by the US ……… you know …….. like the so called Revolution of Culture in Kyiv! A lot of good that did Ukraine!


You've never been slow to complain about abuse, but TBH that's not really an unusual post from you. It's sneeringly contemptuous. Then of course, when you find yourself on the receiving end you adopt the life-long "victimhood" persona and complain bitterly. You seem to be quite myopic in that respect. That is - you simply can't see it.

Of course the man's no threat to Putin. Just like Navalny. Even if he stood, his votes would be negligible by comparison. Nevertheless, what Vlad clearly won't want in these difficult times is any sort of measured public display of anti-war sentiment. A focus for such voters. Because of course, the entire country is behind his "special military operation" (journalists have been jailed there for calling it a war). Without Nadezhin, anyone who disagrees, or who has concerns about what's going on in Ukraine, simply has no one with any credibility at all to vote for.

In the UK, Party Leaders and thus PMs have always been the remit of the ruling political group. It works both ways. Thus the Brown/Corbyn/May/Johnson disasters. Were Sunak to start having opposition election contenders thrown in jail on trumped up charges or rejected from the ballot on clear technicallity "fixes" you might have a point. Were the UK Parliament like the Duma, clearly a rubber stamp for the ruling dictator, another. Despite your (as ever) conspiritorial shadowy "ruling elite", the UK Parliament is often a totally chaotic reflection of it's democratic legitimacy.

If you read about what's happened to Navalny it's tragi-comic. He was a serious focus for anti-Putin sentiment and has suffered for it. Far more than his so-called law breaking has warranted. He strikes me as a sort of Russian Mandela.

I don't know why you people have a problem acknowleging the fact that Vladimir Putin is a pretty ruthless, oldy-worldy totalitarian Dictator. He's been in power for 22 years and, having changed the Russian Constitution, looks set to continue to be so until he either drops dead in the saddle or someone a bit more savvy than the late Prigozhin comes along. A man whose violent death was of course nothing to do with VP. Examples of Putin's ruthlessness are legion, but not something your "independent" sources tend to deal in of course. Nor your good self. Who has always seemed to me to be a great admirer of the icon, whilst concurrently pouring vitriol on western "fascists". A strange conundrum. TBH, I find it all a bit "Alice in Wonderland".

In the UK this year you will end up with either Sunak or Starmer. In the US it's beginning to look like Biden or (legalities allowing) Trump. Neither choice giving a warm feeling. Then, there will be another round in 2029. In the US with neither Biden/Trump participating, this year's victor disallowed from entering the fray due to the Constitutional two term limitation. In Russia, just like Iran and North Korea, nobody with any sense is going to put money on anybody but the current incumbents (or in Iran "approved" contender) winning.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Feb 09, 2024 8:37 am



...some two hours long.

The History with which Mr. Putin begins with is notably wrong; Moscow was just fields when Kyiv had already built great churches. It makes me cringe what he says about Poles...

As it is "He" is an Imperialist, not a man to be looking forward for a better Human Condition but a man who looks backward looking for excuses to excuse his own desire for the plunders "others" have gained.

...frankly, i did not watch the whole thing before posting this video.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Fri Feb 09, 2024 4:35 pm

Hang on a minute RW, you have missed the whole point. Are you saying that Russia should not have interfered in Eastern Ukraine and leave the Russian speakers to their fate in the hands of the Nazis in the west especially as they got to power removing and elected President.
You are losing your values. Actions have consequences.

Your idea of Ukrainian culture compared to Russian one is not valid because Cyprus were build complicated houses when the ancient Greeks were still living in caves too and yet we have Greeks even on this forum that claim Cyprus is Greek.

The main point is we are here today and what can we do to move forward. As far as Ukraine is concerned, the only thing to do is sit around the table and talk the East Ukrainians and discuss what they would like. Ukraine will not dictate decisions at this point even if they ask to Join Russian federation. We have to respect natural law and principle
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Feb 09, 2024 10:11 pm

...what. Are you talking about a BBF?

And what makes you think that this man, like Mr. Carlson, (or any one of "Them") are no more than wannabes?

..."purity" sure seems so important to Putin; who is the Nazi?

And yes, the notion of Ukrainians is very much like the predicament of Cypriots; which came first, chicken or the egg?

...in any case, presumably 'we' have passed the Modern Age, and here we are "Free".
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:30 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...what. Are you talking about a BBF?

And what makes you think that this man, like Mr. Carlson, (or any one of "Them") are no more than wannabes?

..."purity" sure seems so important to Putin; who is the Nazi?

And yes, the notion of Ukrainians is very much like the predicament of Cypriots; which came first, chicken or the egg?

...in any case, presumably 'we' have passed the Modern Age, and here we are "Free".

The BBF boat sailed away just as the Ukrainians lined up the tanks and started firing at the Russian speakers. Ukrainians have to sit down and negotiate with the Russian speakers to see what it is that will be acceptable to them now and if it is joining the Russian federation, so be it. They have every right to decide their future for themselves.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Feb 10, 2024 3:48 am

...if you are Turkish you must be a "Turk"; is that it?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Sat Feb 10, 2024 12:44 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...if you are Turkish you must be a "Turk"; is that it?

I did not realise that there were any pure races now RW. I am talking about what happens on the ground. Sometimes divorce happens. The time to deal with it was when it was possible to sign the Minsk agreement. The Nazis have decided to use the Yanks backing and ethnically cleans the East of Russian speakers and they came up short.

Now if they want peace they have to negotiate.

It would be wise not to aggravate any other Russian speakers in the rest of the old Soviet states. The end will not be good.

It has nothing to do with being "Turk" or "Greek" or "Anything Else".
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:03 am

repulsewarrior wrote:Putin/Carlson 2 hr interview ...some two hours long.

The History with which Mr. Putin begins with is notably wrong; Moscow was just fields when Kyiv had already built great churches. It makes me cringe what he says about Poles...

As it is "He" is an Imperialist, not a man to be looking forward for a better Human Condition but a man who looks backward looking for excuses to excuse his own desire for the plunders "others" have gained.

...frankly, i did not watch the whole thing before posting this video.


Putin’s PR Incompetency — the Tucker Carlson Interview as one Example - by Eric Zuesse February 10, 2024

https://theduran.com/putins-pr-incompetency-the-tucker-carlson-interview-as-one-example/


RW: [b]Putin was not 'notably wrong!' A long winded initial reply, of that there is no doubt but did you note he needed no notes or a tele-prompter to educate Carlson on Russian History? In fact he didn’t refer to any form of prompting to say what he said for over two hours and he was accurate ...... you can check it all out. He doesn't waffle either ..... he explains!

Now compare his performance with ANY of the US and their partners and allies Leaders responses in even a short interview!

You do not have to agree with his opinions but as a statesman he leaves the Western Powers in the shadows when it comes to providing details and information and ..... if you check it out ..... he is pretty accurate. That is why this article says he is in reality a PR disaster because he just tells it as it is. Compare Putin's narrative and body language to that of the US and Israel's leaders endless stream of propaganda about GAZA! :roll:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Feb 11, 2024 11:59 pm

...that as a Statesman, he is way ahead of his contemporaries, i'll grant you that, but to what end?

Intentions count. And as far as i can see he does not work for 'us', rather he works to "Be" among "Them" a somebody.

...indeed he rattles off "His" History so well; what do you expect? (poor Tucker Carlson, what was left for him to do but listen.)

...as much as "They" would like things just the way they are, (with "Them" in control, or as it was when "They" were in control) for ever, change in effect is natural; when what remains are 'our' Universal Principles unchanged, natural too.

What we see here is "Power" and the grasping for absolute power affecting 'our' Leadership; Ignorance without the notion that beyond "Thisness" is a frontier "They" fear: our condition as members of the same race, in our needs all equal.
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