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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:32 pm

Paphitis wrote:Russia has shown us the way, and now, Syria is fair game.

Yes, we can see that...

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:52 pm

Russia Foiled Ukrainian-NATO Plot To Hijack Its Warplanes... <--- :lol:

https://www.ibtimes.com/russia-claims-i ... eu-3585527


Video evidence...

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:52 pm

Kikapu wrote:What I do think though is, the US is sending equipment to Ukraine that are fast out of date or not a real threat to the Russians, but makes good public relations that they are helping Ukraine to win the fight against Russia. However, slowly but surely, the US (NATO) is going down the slippery slope in getting fully involved in Ukraine because now it cannot be seen losing the war there after throwing $60 Billion down the rat hole not to mention losing face.


A lot of your posts on this subject contain the like of "I do think" or "I believe". As I've said earlier, you have a tendency to make things up as you go along to suit your particular agenda. In essence they tend to be baseless opinion though.

The equipment Ukraine's receiving are tools relevant to the job. Let us look on the bright side though. It offers the Russians an opportunity to collect even more NATO weapons. It seems their Tanks and APCs have been doing a sterling job in that respect. You're being a bit naive though I think. Whilst I'm sure they could strip the weapons down and perhaps usefully use some parts, the idea they have the capability to produce their own copies is bollocks. Do have a look at their wonderful past successes - the TU144 and Buran. :wink:

Having had initial problems with classical armoured invasion tactics (aka they over-extended, beyond their logistic capabilities, got their asses kicked around Kiev and retreated, tails between legs) the Russians resorted some time ago to one of long range bombardment - principally artillery - and the indiscriminate obliteration of whole towns and cities. In your world that apparently is something to do with snipers You think/believe. :roll: They've been literally reducing cites and towns to little more than rubble. Bearing in mind that any large scale killing of civilians that turns up on front pages in the process is down to the Ukranian military killing their own to make Russia look bad. Or, the apartment/school/shopping centre was actually a "Nazi spot"/military installation. Baaaaaaaaa!

The like of HIMARS and the artillery being suppled by the West are the perfect tools to counter that tactic and their effectiveness in destroying Russian logistic bottlenecks and ammunition dumps bears witness. Coupled to the fact that the usual "useful idiot" propaganda has those weapons being taken out daily. A useful gauge tends to be that the more they bleat about it the more they're bleeding. If you think those weapons aren't a threat to Russian forces and just PR then you're clearly beyond the pale when it comes to reasonable debate on the matter. Backed up by clearly good strategic intel from the likes of RQ-4 Global Hawk they do seem currently to be proving very effective.

Kikapu wrote: I have also read US is about to send Military Advisors to Ukraine. Does it sound like Vietnam to you yet? No, then wait a little while longer and it will.


Not really. Perhaps a better analogy would be the Russians in Afghanistan. Where the US armed the home team to the teeth and trained them. Watching patiently until the Russians ran out of will/morale and more importantly, money. I don't think either examples though are really that relevant.

What's happening in Ukraine is in many respects an old fashioned armour, infantry, trench warfare conflict. The largest in Europe since WW2.

Kikapu wrote:These are the actions and dangers which will have the potential to bring us to Nuclear destruction in Ukraine, as I see the fight being fought to death now regardless how long it will take, and no doubt LR will be reminding us the calendar daily with comment like “it has been 12 months now and the war, sorry the “Special operations” is still going on by the grand chess master Putin when it was only supposed to last 12 hours”. :wink:

Yes, LR was a “fly on the wall” in the war room when the invasion of Ukraine was being hatched by Russia! :D


With regard to Nuclear destruction it's only Russia that has been making such threats. Here I have to revert to the Great Man's proclamations. On which you - despite your clearly understanding that they are the sermons of a lunatic - never comment. Why is that? :? I'm sure you understand - even sitting there in your 4 passport Swiss bastion - such events would lead to disaster for the whole of humanity. Come on - admit it - the guy's a nutter. :wink:

On 24 February, despite lying about it several times, Vladimir Putin ordered 200,000 troops of the Russian army to invade Ukraine. They headed directly towards Kiev, at one point in a much publicised 40 mile long convoy.

The expectation by both the Russians and in fact the West was that they would make short shrift of Ukrainian resistance and take the country in a matter of days. Look back. GR was gloating that Zelensky would be discovered by and 8' Spetsnaz hiding in a cupboard somewhere. The government of Ukraine would be removed and a more compliant one installed. That's not what happened though, is it? And here we are.

If you truly believe that this war, now in its 6 month, is proceeding according to some sort of cunning Russian plan then sorry but you're an idiot and, as such, are fully qualified to be on the Great Man's team.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:54 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Russia has shown us the way, and now, Syria is fair game.

Yes, we can see that...

US_Interventions.jpg


All Bullshit.

US has never invaded another country, carpet bombed it into oblivion, raised apartment blocks, and kill hundreds of thousands of civilians.

neither has it lost as many troops as Russia has since WW2. American soldiers are not cannon fodder.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:59 pm

Londonrake wrote: GR was gloating that Zelensky would be discovered by and 8' Spetsnaz hiding in a cupboard somewhere. The government of Ukraine would be removed and a more compliant one installed. That's not what happened though, is it? And here we are.

Right, so not all my predictions came to pass giving you a “fighting argument” and thus a lifeline?

You’re so pitiful… :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:02 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote: GR was gloating that Zelensky would be discovered by and 8' Spetsnaz hiding in a cupboard somewhere. The government of Ukraine would be removed and a more compliant one installed. That's not what happened though, is it? And here we are.

Right, so not all my predictions came to pass giving you a “fighting argument” and thus a lifeline?

You’re so pitiful… :lol:


Not only did they not come to pass, but Zalensky kicked your sorry arses in the outskirts of Kieve and to the North. Allthe Russians could do was run away.

The Spetsnaz were active at the Airport, but all were killed as Russia abandoned them to a grizzly death. Oh well.

Not only did yopur predictions not come to pass, but Zalensky is considered a global hero and inspiration, and Pootin a Pariah.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby miltiades » Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:04 pm

Hasn't anyone yet realized that this Psychopath is driven by his immense hatred of the West? Are you all, almost all, so bloody stupid? This guy is mental. He is a fucking psychopath who can't wait for the nuclear war to start.
Psycho, go FUCK YOUR SELF AND stick your Russian propaganda up your filthy arse.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:14 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote: GR was gloating that Zelensky would be discovered by and 8' Spetsnaz hiding in a cupboard somewhere. The government of Ukraine would be removed and a more compliant one installed. That's not what happened though, is it? And here we are.

Right, so not all my predictions came to pass giving you a “fighting argument” and thus a lifeline?

You’re so pitiful… :lol:


It really doesn't matter.

The idea that this or that person did this or that in the past in some way excuses what Russia is doing in Ukraine is total bollocks.

It's the largest conflict in Europe since WW2. Tens of thousands of Ukrainians have been killed or wounded. Whole cities, towns and villages have been quite literally obliterated. Millions have been forced from their homes of have fled as refugees (REMEMBER?).

There is absolutely no excuse for the carnage Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin has inflicted on a neighbouring country for what simply amounts to his megalomaniac desire to go down in history as a second Peter the Great. And your daily vomiting of totally biased links telling us how well the murder - sorry "bitch slapping" - of Ukrainians is going simply underlines what a psychotic individual you are. Perfectly suited to be the forum moderator.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:16 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Ukraine will get this, Ukraine will get that all totally free.
Well Russia is now buying hundreds of these: Any objections? :lol: :lol: :lol:
Watch half Ukraine falling within 30 days.

https://warnews247-gr.translate.goog/ek ... r_pto=wapp


No objections.

It's just Iranian junk that will meet their demise in the wheat fields of Ukraine.

It's chicken feed compared to the $60 billion eneroute to Ukraine.



I pity your self imposed blindness. Read and learn:
copy of USAF's RQ-170.
Don't under-estimate the Persians. Ayatollahs are one thing, the Persian brains are another. We had a few Persian Professors in my University, together with Greeks, Swedish, Japanese etc. No wonder their civilization ages back to BC.

Yeah, yeah, 60 billion en-route ignorant pussy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/08/us-to-s ... lion-.html

https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-agai ... t-tracker/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Mon Jul 25, 2022 5:18 pm

Hey Pyrpo.

I think a lot of what you post is shite but.............................

Stick around! :wink: :D
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