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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:01 am

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Pyrpolizer wrote:You have every right to treat people as they treat you.
If however you think that doing persona diatribes all the time, has anything to do with the way you are treated, then you are wrong. How did kikapu treated you on the first place, that made you write his persona analysis that initiated my first reaction??? It's YOU who was calling him a "hypocrite" for no reason!

I have no idea what GR's advice to you is/was, that coincid/es/ed with mine.


Well, I'm OK with civilised discussions and in that context would tend to remain civil. War though doesn't of course lend itself to that generally.

It's not the first time you've accused me of "personal diatribes". Apparently I'm responsible for a hundred? Any opinion on other people's though?

Let me help. For instance. This post of mine you seem to have a problem with was actually in response to:

Get Real! wrote:Stupidity is incurable so the likes of Paphitis, Repulse and LondonFail, will remain so throughout their existence.

At a time when the leadership of the West has reached its most dangerous totalitarian level against its own citizens with...

* The hijacking of all mass media.
* The suppression of opposing websites/views.
* The dissolution and absorption of opposition parties.
* The mass promotion of all things decadent.
* The blatant discrimination of Russians, Chinese and other non western cultures.
* The elevation and unconditional support of criminal Zionism.

...and so forth, you’d think a reasonable mind would be alarmed at all that is happening and be tempted to react against such regimes, but no!

These clowns offer unconditional love to TOTAL TRASH even at their peril!

Such self-harming individuals cannot possibly be of sound mind.


Do you not think that's a tad provocative and likely to get a similar response? At times it's as though you simply can't see what the man's saying. References to his posts you seem to feel are "shit stirring". I'm confounded.

As far as GR's and your "advice" is concerned, I'm surprised. Stuck for a reasoned response both of you could only come up with "fuck off". I consider that sort of reaction to be a vindication.

I can't be the only one who get's tired of the seemingly endless "TRASH" and "CRIMINAL" shite? :lol: T'would be nice to move on.

Anyway, good evening to you Sir. Off to bed now. You will have to spend the rest of the night agreeing but discussing differences of opinion on "detail" with the other supporters of the killing of tens of thousands of Ukranians, destruction of their towns and cities and the driving of millions out of their homes. You will need a lot of popcorn. :wink:


I am not saying you are right or wrong justified or unjustified in doing ad hominem attacks. All I am saying is that creating a Persona Analysis (which by itself is wrong in many parts) for the purpose of jumping to an ad hominem attack, is in most cases either repeated (e.g. Vs GR) or unjustified (e.g. Vs Kikapu)

For the part that concerns me, (highlighted in blue above) I actually NEVER use just expressions like "Fuck off". The one and only time I used it, was when YOU FIRST used it against me a few posts earlier.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:19 am

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It had nothing to do with Ruzzia declaring war. The Japanese probably would have destroyed the red army. I also believe they probably would have beat the Americans as well if the allies invaded actually. That's how much I rate the Japanese and their motivation.

A similar motivation that you see from the Ukrainian Military which is difficult to harness - which is why Ruzzia will lose the war in Ukraine.

Greece declared war on Japan too. The Japanese feared the Americans most, but yes, I take your point that the Japanese would 100% rather surrender to America than to Ruzzia. That goes without saying. I think surrendering to America would be preferred by anyone rather than Ruzzia. Germany preferred to surrender to America instead of Ruzzia as well. No one likes Ruzzians. The Americans would be a lot better to submit to and eventually, Japan will be sovereign again like before, and being under American hegemony is a lot better than Ruzzian as Americans a probably a great deal more soft and fairer, as well as forgiving, with the passage of time.

And that has proven to be the case. Japan today is a great friend and ally. America, and Australia have a great friendly relationship with Japan as an equal partner and ally. Almost like WW2 never even happened. Japan is a very trusted and likable partner and I don't think that will ever change. As a people they are very good, clean and just 100% fabulous and a net contributor to global peace and stability. Very advance industry as well, probably second to none and we are talking high quality industry as well, on par to Europe and North America.

They are a good country.

Unlike Ruzzia and Ruzzians which are the scum of earth. Japanese, just like virtually every country on earth don't like Ruzzians. Germans don't like them either. Ruzzians are just beyond the pale for most. Now I got to qualify that I am not talking about Russians as a whole, just Ruzzians and their political leadership and their seemingly existing mindset. It's literally filthy and criminal. I have met many great Russians and yes, nice people and all that. I'm not racist against Russians, just Ruzzians. And there are millions of Russians who don't like what Ruzzia is doing and they even feel embarrassed and many of them are on the streets demonstrating and getting arrested.

I even find Russian women extremely attractive and all that. But not Ruzzians.


It doesn't matter what you believe. What matters is what historians say...
A lot of people consider the Americans criminals and scum and the Germans racist to the bone, with a lot of inherited fascist mentality still prevailing. The truth is the majority of the World considers those generalized views idiotic, just like your own generalized view.


And the history books clearly say, the surrender was bought about the by the American Nuclear strikes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and America's threat that Japan would be completely destroyed if there was no unconditional surrender. That's what the taught us at HMAS Creswell. Yes, we would do history in the ADF, among other things.

It had nothing to do with the Russians as they were not even in the game.

But I take your point that the Japanese would rather surrender to America instead of Russia. The Japanese would never have surrendered to Russia anyway. They had their backs to the wall because of America.


No, that was the narrative the Americans and the Japanese made believe each for their own reasons. Historians totally disagree. I gave you credible links, which obviously you didn't read.
Oh and btw you are still missing the reason why Japan was nuked instead of Germany. Hint: Germany surrendered 2 months earlier.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:27 am

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Paphitis wrote:My friggin ass they were Greek. I know what Greeks are like and what they look like, talk like and the way they behave.

These were not Greek. Maybe claiming so, but they looked very Ruzzian to me. Usually, you can't smell Greeks. And Greeks don't have that tell tale stony and cold face with cringy evil looking beady eyes. Greeks also usually smile and are a happy people.

Sorry, nothing Greek about them.


Oh yeah "They were not Greek". You are very good in throwing denials silly boy, regardless of how much out of reality you are.
No matter how loud you bark, and how forcibly you twist, do digest it. The Pontians ARE ETNHIC GREEKS. The looks on their face and their mentality is absolutely irrelevant. Have you ever seen Greeks from Lebanon? They look like Lebanse and they speak perfect French like the Lebanese! Greeks from Egypt? They look like Egyptian. Greeks from Turkey? They look and behave like Turkish "yavrim". Russian citizens of the far East? They look like Chinese. It's the local micro-climate that changes the facial looks of humans. And the environment they live that underlines their behavior. Even Greeks from England look and behave like British over the years...

More about the Pontian ETHNIC GREEKS here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontic_Greek


I have met Greeks from Lebanon and also from Egypt and they were nothing like the Russo-"Pontians". Even Lebanese proper were nothing like that. They too, are a happy people

I also know many Greeks from Asia Minor and many Pontian Greeks and they were nothing like what I saw in that bus with evil beady eyes and speaking Ruzzian too, smelling like they just came out of the sewer.

I have never in my lifetime been able to to smell Lebanese and you are talking to someone who shops at Lebanese, and Afghan shops. Never been able to smell Afghans either.

Sorry, but in all my life, I never met any Greeks who were similar to them. If they were Greek, I'll eat my hat.


Well I guess that was too much for you to even come close to comprehending
My bad, I shouldn't waste my time with an IQ << 0
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Sep 29, 2022 11:30 am

Paphitis wrote:And from our favourite Ukraine War analyst bitches: Denys Davidov. 8)

You get facts from this guy, nothing more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYrWK6k5Guc[/youtube]


All I see is maps for future dreams. Just like yours! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 29, 2022 2:38 pm

My friend Paul Craig Roberts breaks it down for those with a functional brain...

A Fateful Moment of History Is Upon Us

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2022/0 ... s-upon-us/


MORE ON THE REFERENDUM GAME CHANGER

https://sonar21.com/more-on-the-referen ... e-changer/
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu Sep 29, 2022 7:16 pm

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Thu Sep 29, 2022 9:02 pm

Not all American citizens are stupid, check out some of the comments in response to this headline...

Another $1.1BN In Arms Ukraine: "We Will Not Be Deterred," White House Says

My favorite part about this whole war is that Ukraine is winning SO HARD, they constantly need to be replenished with new weapons systems. They capture sooooo many Russian tanks, yet they're begging Germany for Leopards.
"We can totally win this, we just need a new army every 2 months!"

Just keep on throwing good money after bad. Meanwhile, food bank lines are growing by the day. Good to see our priorities are in order...

We will not be deterred from supporting Ukraine
Too bad the Biden freak show doesn't show the same resolve in securing the southern border and stopping the flood of third world economic migrant invaders.

America has run amok and needs to have its azz handed to them on a platter
We've lost three or four wars in a row against disorganized peasant insurgents... now we're going to fight the toughest military on the planet with our trannies and CRT?

Stupid people in charge.
Everyone else knows there is no way Ukraine can win. The money is just going to all the crooked Ukrainian leadership pockets.

The amount of payola to keep the USSA and UK ****ery that took place in Ukraine for almost a decade under wraps is unbelievable. They really really really do not want their evil exposed and are willing to risk nuke WWIII to keep it concealed. Shows just how desperate, insane and satanic the West has become.

The people of US and Europe by wide margins are dead-set against the weapons going to Ukraine.
We must get these crazed psychopathic leaders out of office.

Yet 40 million Americans can't pay their power bill.
Seems this money would be better spent on AMERICANS!!!

So we are helping ukraine kill russians sounds like partnership to me what ever russia does to us we deserve, thanks for your biden votes you left wing wacked out idiots

Signs of absolute desperation starting to set in here from the US. They are determined to keep this going. They’ve gone all-in on these counter offensives - the southern one got crushed, and the northern one has stalled and they’re now taking massive losses. So many uke tanks lost they’re getting 1950’s T55’s from former soviet states as they’re almost out of T72’s.

We will attack and destroy billions in German infrastructure and condemn 80 million Germans to freeze this Winter, in return for which we fully expect Chancellor Scholz to lick our hands! We will not be deterred!

This money is zelensky's allowance, he simply let the cat out of the bag by saying the US send Ukie $1.5 billion a month, and this sounds right.
The US weapons are junk, last night another prized Himars was blown up, which makes 2 in a week. as to the Howitzers, they are almost all gone.

Notice that EU weapons stocks have been...exhausted. He won't say exhausted but there is nothing more to give.
they also are in no position with their yields going vertical like in the case of the UK, to provide anything additional without fatal, catastrophic collapse of their own currencies.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Lordo » Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:49 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:


What this fellow does not touch is how are they making their money? Who is the supplier? CIA? Who else can it be.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 30, 2022 3:46 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
It had nothing to do with Ruzzia declaring war. The Japanese probably would have destroyed the red army. I also believe they probably would have beat the Americans as well if the allies invaded actually. That's how much I rate the Japanese and their motivation.

A similar motivation that you see from the Ukrainian Military which is difficult to harness - which is why Ruzzia will lose the war in Ukraine.

Greece declared war on Japan too. The Japanese feared the Americans most, but yes, I take your point that the Japanese would 100% rather surrender to America than to Ruzzia. That goes without saying. I think surrendering to America would be preferred by anyone rather than Ruzzia. Germany preferred to surrender to America instead of Ruzzia as well. No one likes Ruzzians. The Americans would be a lot better to submit to and eventually, Japan will be sovereign again like before, and being under American hegemony is a lot better than Ruzzian as Americans a probably a great deal more soft and fairer, as well as forgiving, with the passage of time.

And that has proven to be the case. Japan today is a great friend and ally. America, and Australia have a great friendly relationship with Japan as an equal partner and ally. Almost like WW2 never even happened. Japan is a very trusted and likable partner and I don't think that will ever change. As a people they are very good, clean and just 100% fabulous and a net contributor to global peace and stability. Very advance industry as well, probably second to none and we are talking high quality industry as well, on par to Europe and North America.

They are a good country.

Unlike Ruzzia and Ruzzians which are the scum of earth. Japanese, just like virtually every country on earth don't like Ruzzians. Germans don't like them either. Ruzzians are just beyond the pale for most. Now I got to qualify that I am not talking about Russians as a whole, just Ruzzians and their political leadership and their seemingly existing mindset. It's literally filthy and criminal. I have met many great Russians and yes, nice people and all that. I'm not racist against Russians, just Ruzzians. And there are millions of Russians who don't like what Ruzzia is doing and they even feel embarrassed and many of them are on the streets demonstrating and getting arrested.

I even find Russian women extremely attractive and all that. But not Ruzzians.


It doesn't matter what you believe. What matters is what historians say...
A lot of people consider the Americans criminals and scum and the Germans racist to the bone, with a lot of inherited fascist mentality still prevailing. The truth is the majority of the World considers those generalized views idiotic, just like your own generalized view.


And the history books clearly say, the surrender was bought about the by the American Nuclear strikes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki and America's threat that Japan would be completely destroyed if there was no unconditional surrender. That's what the taught us at HMAS Creswell. Yes, we would do history in the ADF, among other things.

It had nothing to do with the Russians as they were not even in the game.

But I take your point that the Japanese would rather surrender to America instead of Russia. The Japanese would never have surrendered to Russia anyway. They had their backs to the wall because of America.


No, that was the narrative the Americans and the Japanese made believe each for their own reasons. Historians totally disagree. I gave you credible links, which obviously you didn't read.
Oh and btw you are still missing the reason why Japan was nuked instead of Germany. Hint: Germany surrendered 2 months earlier.


It's not just the American Narrative. It is the generally accepted narrative, even from Japanese sources.

Although, you are very much correct that the Japanese would prefer to surrender to America. That is 100% true. But what you are having difficulty with is the fact they didn't have to surrender to Russia. Ruzzia had no authority to demand it because if they did, the Japanese would ignore it. It was Merika and its British, Australian, and French allies who were threatening D Day, Carpet Bombing, and total destruction of Japan. It was the Americans who were starting to fly with B29s over Japanese cities carpet bombing. The Japanese were even prepared to tolerate that, but when the nukes were dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, that was the straw that broke the camel's back effectively. The Japanese quickly decided to surrender.

This is what was taught to us at HMAS Creswell.

And one thing you need to know about Australian Military. Most are Anglo Saxon. UK is the mother country. Outside of that, Aussies are predominately German, Prussian and Irish. In other words, very disciplined, and meticulous as all hell in record keeping and organization. Hence, it's one of the best organized, trained and effective military in the world. Much better than the Ruzzian as we all know now. If you were 1 minute late for anything, you would be punished.

And they don't just follow Merika. There is also competitiveness. I can tell you that for a fact. Aussies think they are better, and quite often Aussies fight with Merikans and want to stick it up them.

Example, I have a friend, who was in the SAS. Was in Afghanistan for a 6 month tour of duty. On patrol once, they were witness to the brutal stoning of a 14/15 year old girl. Australian snipers were only 1 km away and holding an elevated position.

They were watching the young girl being half buried in the ground. Watching everything through their scopes and binoculars. Australian Commander wanted to shoot the IMAM (a Civilian). He called it through to command asking permission to go green, and fire. Australian SAS were ready and they were motorized (Bushmasters). The Americans did not give permission and said it was not our issue. They let the girl be murdered. Australians were literally pissed and the Australian SAS Commander was still thinking to engage but eventually told his soldiers not to. Not one Australian Soldier had a lot of respect for the Americans that day, and I am pretty sure if any American came close to them, the Aussies would have decked them according to my mate.

You unfortunately, listen to people giving opinions, to make a name of themselves, or listening to Ruzzian fantasies.

Let me tell you one thing, if the ADF was transplanted into Ukraine, right now, Ruzzia would be finished in less than a week. If the British Military was transplanted there, Ruzzia would be finished min 4 days. If the French were transplanted there, Ruzzia would be finished in 4 days. Merikans wouldn't be needed.

You see, reality checks are necessary when your life is full of delusions. Ruzzia, is not a power that worries us now. In fact, Ruzzia has become a TOTAL JOKE. And they are losing the war. Get use to it!
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

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