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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:22 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Any omments on this?

:? What a stupid idiot! :lol:


You’re on the pop again it seems. :roll:

Not stupid, nor an idiot. And, as posted earlier, I don’t give a flying fuck about your strutting around the forum, bully boy shite. You’re a pussycat keyboard warrior who one day I suspect will get his just deserts. Here, in an afterlife or both.

To be fair, neither stupidity nor idiocy are your problem. Yours is insanity. Drunk or not.

You clearly don’t have a clue, or even passing care it seems, about the implications and consequences for humanity of a nuclear war.

Apparently, because you don’t personally have any control over these matters your oft expressed lunacy doesn’t matter and to highlight it - asking for others views - amounts to divide and conquer. “tricks”. :roll:

As always it seems, none are to be forthcoming.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:31 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Any omments on this?

:? What a stupid idiot! :lol:

You’re on the pop again it seems. :roll:

Not stupid, nor an idiot. And, as posted earlier, I don’t give a flying fuck about your strutting around the forum, bully boy shite. You’re a pussycat keyboard warrior who one day I suspect will get his just deserts. Here, in an afterlife or both.

To be fair, neither stupidity nor idiocy are your problem. Yours is insanity. Drunk or not.

You clearly don’t have a clue, or even passing care it seems, about the implications and consequences for humanity of a nuclear war.

Apparently, because you don’t personally have any control over these matters your oft expressed lunacy doesn’t matter and to highlight it - asking for others views - amounts to divide and conquer. “tricks”. :roll:

As always it seems, none are to be forthcoming.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa

You couldn’t divide and conquer a banana if I were to take your dentures away!

Now wipe your tears and get the fuck outta here for you’ve become so pathetic I cringe at your very existence.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Londonrake » Fri Sep 30, 2022 10:45 pm

Get Real! wrote:You couldn’t divide and conquer a banana if I were to take your dentures away!

Now wipe your tears and get the fuck outta here for you’ve become so pathetic I cringe at your very existence.


You’re right, I’ve no desire to - and precious little chance - of influencing anybody’s opinions on this subject. Dividing isn’t an issue.

I’ll leave it to others to judge “pathetic” here.

Meantime, why don’t you finish off your bottle, have a last few puffs and get yourself off to bed?

Tomorrow will be a big day. All those links to sort out. :|
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:06 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Londonrake wrote:Any omments on this?

:? What a stupid idiot! :lol:


You’re on the pop again it seems. :roll:

Not stupid, nor an idiot. And, as posted earlier, I don’t give a flying fuck about your strutting around the forum, bully boy shite. You’re a pussycat keyboard warrior who one day I suspect will get his just deserts. Here, in an afterlife or both.

To be fair, neither stupidity nor idiocy are your problem. Yours is insanity. Drunk or not.

You clearly don’t have a clue, or even passing care it seems, about the implications and consequences for humanity of a nuclear war.

Apparently, because you don’t personally have any control over these matters your oft expressed lunacy doesn’t matter and to highlight it - asking for others views - amounts to divide and conquer. “tricks”. :roll:

As always it seems, none are to be forthcoming.

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaa


See you finally commented. :wink:
Although for the highlighted part, your analysis a few days ago was much more worthy.
We heard you, like we heard GR.

For me the most important issue is why the two sides are willing to risk it.
I can understand why Russia is willing to risk it, but why the Anglo-Saxon axis and it's vassal States in the EU are willing to risk it?
Please don't give me the bullshit about sovereignty, liberty, human rights etc, that they themselves violated a million times all over the world.
So what's the REAL reason?
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Fri Sep 30, 2022 11:56 pm

Another slap in the face for the miserable West…

India, China, Brazil Abstain From UN Vote Condemning Russian Annexation

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/rus ... on-abstain
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Paphitis » Sat Oct 01, 2022 2:09 am

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Summary of the latest news:
A full scale war starts from tomorrow. Thousands of troops and equipment concentrate in Belarus.
Belarus will more likely enter the war, and has already been supplied with nuclear weapons. There will be a new offensive against Kiev city, and relentless destruction of all infrastructure everywhere in Ukraine including power stations, electricity distribution networks, water supply lines, internet, everything. So far the "special military operation" excluded all that. British M16 warns Kiev on a daily basis. The borders with Poland will be sealed.


That all seems very alarming - not to mention dramatic - and I obviously hope you're wrong. When you say "latest news" can you provide a link? I've had a quick search but can't find anything to support those claims. :?

It all sounds familiar though. Surely the "full scale war" started on Feb 24th when 190,000 Russian troops invaded Ukraine?

Something regularly said for months now is that the Russians are in some way holding back. Usually in the form of - if X or Y do this or that then, well watch out, they'll really be in for it, The kid gloves will come off. Events though have indicated throughout they've been throwing the (non-WMD) kitchen sink at the Ukrainian people since the conflict started. Massive, long distance, bombardment has been their main tactic since the March Kiev debacle.

Belarus being supplied with nuclear weapons would be astonishing and surely front page "breaking news"? :shock: I recall - as part of Putin's regular nuclear sabre rattling - he announced months ago that Belarus would be equipped with Iskander missiles. Which were both conventional and nuclear capable. A not trivial difference in semantics. I can't see Putin handing over nukes to somebody like Lukasheko. At the very least..................... why? He'd be mortgaging himself to the actions of a fellow dictator for no credible reason :?

BTW. I note after the recent attack on a convoy carrying Ukranian civilians near Zaporizhzhia, in which 23 were killed, there's been the usual reaction when such an event finds its way on to the front pages. You can hear the squeaking of ageing wheels as the Russians roll out - yet again - their "false flag" trolley.


warnews.com is a Russian State sponsored propaganda site. It has zero credibility.

It also glortifies the destruction and the death like this war was a footy game, and they fantasize about Nuclear Ammeageddon.

The likelihood Ruzzia has moved Nuclear Warheads to Belarus is practically zero. The US would be monitoring their nuclear warheads and bases from Space. As soon as any Nuclear Device is moved, or fueled, Merika will raise its Nuclear Defcon Alert Level, to the point where they will mobilize their Nuclear Arsenal and start refuelling their ICBMs as well. Pootin isn't that stupid.

Plus, the whole value of Nuclear Weapons is in their deterrance level. As soon as Ruzzia uses even a Tactical Nuclear Device in Ukraine, this deterance value is significantly reduced, meaning that the US is likely to respond, and it could respond with a Tactical Nuclear Strike themselves. More likely though, Merika's response would not involve the use of a Nuclear Weapon. The Merikans will not start or risk Nuclear Ammageddon.

But, the Merikans and their allies have something else up their sleeve. Because the Nuclear Deterrance value has been drastically reduced, Western Forces will likely enter Ukraine, and start targetting the Black Sea Fleet and Crimea.

The Ruzzian Military would be destroyed in a few days. Pootin knows that.

Use of a Tactical Nuclear device on Ukraine would end up being disastrous for Ruzzia. It will not result in Ukraine stopping. They will only stop when they liberate their country. And the West would become even more motivated to help them. It doesn't matter anymore how costly this war is or how many people die - 100,000, 200,000, or a million people. The way the West sees this now is that Ruzzia sees its end in Ukraine and we avoid a further 1 million people dieing elsewhere. This is the last line of defence and the West will ensure Pootin's demise is achieved, and it will be.

The use of a Tactical Nuclear Device isn't a decision to be taken lightly because the deterrance value will reduce drastically if not disappear altogether, and that is very bad news for the world at large. We will be within a bees dick to a Nuclear holocaust.


Practically zero huh?
At best they would watch deployment of ballistic nuclear weapons which are huge. Not the smaller ones.

It was in the news in June. Tomorrow it will be October. :lol: :lol: :lol:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/2 ... hin-months

Go on continue writing endless nonsense in essays. The more you write the more you get ridiculed.


You ridicule me?

I'm telling you that the use of Nuclear Weapon is extremely dangerous for Ruzzia, because the deterrence will cease to exist - the whole point of having Nuclear Weapons is for the deterrence. NATO is already pressing ahead with Ukraine joining NATO. Which suggests the possibility that NATO will execute Article 5. Do you see how much Ruzzia has stuffed up now?

Secondly, Ruzzia is sending old T-62 tanks to Ukraine. I mean seriously. This is a country the west is suppose to take seriously. They are literally falling apart. And still you think a Nuclear Strike, or hypersonic weapons is suppose to scare us? How many do they have? Already, their tempo is a fraction of what it was in February because they are being demolished by HIMARS.

And the troops that are being mobilized. Ukrainian forces look well drilled, capable and disciplined and their morale is through the roof. We are seeing videos of Ukrainian Soldiers, singing, dancing, sky larking from the contact lines.

Oh and btw, your headline says Ruzzians are sending Nuclear Capable Missiles to Belarus - that's a long way off from impending Nuclear Holocaust or Nuclear escalation I would say. And that's presuming Ruzzia has the missiles which is a big assumption these days. Ruzzians are using S300 in an G2G capacity which is an indication they are critically low of just about everything.
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Oct 01, 2022 9:49 am

Paphitis wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Summary of the latest news:
A full scale war starts from tomorrow. Thousands of troops and equipment concentrate in Belarus.
Belarus will more likely enter the war, and has already been supplied with nuclear weapons. There will be a new offensive against Kiev city, and relentless destruction of all infrastructure everywhere in Ukraine including power stations, electricity distribution networks, water supply lines, internet, everything. So far the "special military operation" excluded all that. British M16 warns Kiev on a daily basis. The borders with Poland will be sealed.


That all seems very alarming - not to mention dramatic - and I obviously hope you're wrong. When you say "latest news" can you provide a link? I've had a quick search but can't find anything to support those claims. :?

It all sounds familiar though. Surely the "full scale war" started on Feb 24th when 190,000 Russian troops invaded Ukraine?

Something regularly said for months now is that the Russians are in some way holding back. Usually in the form of - if X or Y do this or that then, well watch out, they'll really be in for it, The kid gloves will come off. Events though have indicated throughout they've been throwing the (non-WMD) kitchen sink at the Ukrainian people since the conflict started. Massive, long distance, bombardment has been their main tactic since the March Kiev debacle.

Belarus being supplied with nuclear weapons would be astonishing and surely front page "breaking news"? :shock: I recall - as part of Putin's regular nuclear sabre rattling - he announced months ago that Belarus would be equipped with Iskander missiles. Which were both conventional and nuclear capable. A not trivial difference in semantics. I can't see Putin handing over nukes to somebody like Lukasheko. At the very least..................... why? He'd be mortgaging himself to the actions of a fellow dictator for no credible reason :?

BTW. I note after the recent attack on a convoy carrying Ukranian civilians near Zaporizhzhia, in which 23 were killed, there's been the usual reaction when such an event finds its way on to the front pages. You can hear the squeaking of ageing wheels as the Russians roll out - yet again - their "false flag" trolley.


warnews.com is a Russian State sponsored propaganda site. It has zero credibility.

It also glortifies the destruction and the death like this war was a footy game, and they fantasize about Nuclear Ammeageddon.

The likelihood Ruzzia has moved Nuclear Warheads to Belarus is practically zero. The US would be monitoring their nuclear warheads and bases from Space. As soon as any Nuclear Device is moved, or fueled, Merika will raise its Nuclear Defcon Alert Level, to the point where they will mobilize their Nuclear Arsenal and start refuelling their ICBMs as well. Pootin isn't that stupid.

Plus, the whole value of Nuclear Weapons is in their deterrance level. As soon as Ruzzia uses even a Tactical Nuclear Device in Ukraine, this deterance value is significantly reduced, meaning that the US is likely to respond, and it could respond with a Tactical Nuclear Strike themselves. More likely though, Merika's response would not involve the use of a Nuclear Weapon. The Merikans will not start or risk Nuclear Ammageddon.

But, the Merikans and their allies have something else up their sleeve. Because the Nuclear Deterrance value has been drastically reduced, Western Forces will likely enter Ukraine, and start targetting the Black Sea Fleet and Crimea.

The Ruzzian Military would be destroyed in a few days. Pootin knows that.

Use of a Tactical Nuclear device on Ukraine would end up being disastrous for Ruzzia. It will not result in Ukraine stopping. They will only stop when they liberate their country. And the West would become even more motivated to help them. It doesn't matter anymore how costly this war is or how many people die - 100,000, 200,000, or a million people. The way the West sees this now is that Ruzzia sees its end in Ukraine and we avoid a further 1 million people dieing elsewhere. This is the last line of defence and the West will ensure Pootin's demise is achieved, and it will be.

The use of a Tactical Nuclear Device isn't a decision to be taken lightly because the deterrance value will reduce drastically if not disappear altogether, and that is very bad news for the world at large. We will be within a bees dick to a Nuclear holocaust.


Practically zero huh?
At best they would watch deployment of ballistic nuclear weapons which are huge. Not the smaller ones.

It was in the news in June. Tomorrow it will be October. :lol: :lol: :lol:
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/6/2 ... hin-months

Go on continue writing endless nonsense in essays. The more you write the more you get ridiculed.


You ridicule me?

YOU ridicule yourself

I'm telling you that the use of Nuclear Weapon is extremely dangerous for Ruzzia, because the deterrence will cease to exist - the whole point of having Nuclear Weapons is for the deterrence.
I didn't need you to tell me that.

NATO is already pressing ahead with Ukraine joining NATO. Which suggests the possibility that NATO will execute Article 5. Do you see how much Ruzzia has stuffed up now?

You mean like their fast track application to join the EU? Do you see how ridiculus you are?
And you think e.g. Greece, Turkey, Italy (with the current Govnt - of which I am sure you are in the dark) Germany etc etc will ever approve, let aside send soldiers to get killed, for a super corrupt Nazi state like Ukraine?


Secondly, Ruzzia is sending old T-62 tanks to Ukraine. I mean seriously. This is a country the west is suppose to take seriously. They are literally falling apart. And still you think a Nuclear Strike, or hypersonic weapons is suppose to scare us? How many do they have? Already, their tempo is a fraction of what it was in February because they are being demolished by HIMARS.

You have no idea about the effectiveness of weapons, all I can tell you is that even old tanks, have at least 75% effectiveness compared to the most modern ones. So it's better to have 2 old ones than one modern. So far the Russians did not have to expose their most modern weapons anyway. I have no idea how many Russia has, all I see they have a constant supply.Why don't you tell us? Do you really dare compare the Himars with these LOL?
https://missilethreat.csis.org/country/russia/


And the troops that are being mobilized. Ukrainian forces look well drilled, capable and disciplined and their morale is through the roof. We are seeing videos of Ukrainian Soldiers, singing, dancing, sky larking from the contact lines.

Yeah, psychotropic substances can have such an effect. We 've already seen that. How else could they "discipline" normal humans to go to the meat grinder in suicidal pockets in Kherson

Oh and btw, your headline says Ruzzians are sending Nuclear Capable Missiles to Belarus - that's a long way off from impending Nuclear Holocaust or Nuclear escalation I would say. And that's presuming Ruzzia has the missiles which is a big assumption these days. Ruzzians are using S300 in an G2G capacity which is an indication they are critically low of just about everything.

It's about having to think. Which is beyond your capabilities. Nobody is going to confirm you the supply of nuclear warheads for Iskander to Belarus. Conventional long range warheads are useless to Belarus.
The whole point is that the Iskander nuclear warheads are small enough, and easily concealed from satellite scanners, which turns your original argument to ----> TRASH.



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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:30 pm

For LR

Is this the story you were talking about that made a headline in Western media?

https://t.me/rybar/39580

[ Photo ]
Who struck at the column with civilians in Zaporizhzhya - analysis of Rybar

This morning, civilians waiting to leave the liberated territory from the Ukrainian Zaporozhye were hit by an artillery strike. A shell (presumably 155 mm) hit a site at the Orekhovsky car market, where columns were formed to cross the contact line.

According to official statements, 24 people died and more than 30 were injured. Naturally, the Ukrainian side immediately accused the RF Armed Forces of shelling the convoy.

Rybar's team analyzed the direction of the impact, the nature of the spread of soil and fragments. We have established that the blow was delivered from the north-western direction - from the side of the city.

If you look at what military facilities are on the trajectory of the strike, then at the address of st. Musical 4b we will find the military unit 3033 of the National Guard of Ukraine (coordinates 47.79788978589064, 35.22518575082353).

Today's shelling of its own citizens is intended to demonstrate that any attempt to leave the territory of the Russian Federation is not only undesirable, but will be punishable by death.

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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Oct 01, 2022 1:54 pm

Ha,ha,ha.
The Ukrainian suicidal pocket in Kherson near Andriivka is almost wiped off.
But wasn't Paphitis supposed to come back 3 days after the past 15th day to rub our noses with the liberated city of Kherson? :lol: :lol: :lol:

https://rybar.ru/piwigo/upload/2022/09/ ... e7efca.jpg
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Re: Ukrainian Issue

Postby Get Real! » Sat Oct 01, 2022 4:33 pm

Another good edition of FOX news where retired Col. Doug MacGregor is interviewed...

https://zn21g5kls-n995.bitchute.com/SaN ... nGPM4E.mp4

To answer the question why the shortsighted Biden Admin of baboons is hell-bent on Russia nuking the Ukraine and hopefully European nations such as Poland and Germany, leaving Europe in waste… it is so that America can then come along as the “savior of Europe” to supposedly prop them up (at their leisure) and control them.

By keeping Europe forever in tatters the US will hopefully drain it of Europe’s best scientists, technologies and other valuable assets, and with Germany in shambles the EU will of course be disbanded leaving the US free to roam and do as it pleases.

So Biden’s massive gamble is that if Russia is pushed far enough it’ll only nuke its neighborhood but if Putin is smarter and I believe he is, Russia will instead nuke America!

And the sooner the better!
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