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Re: Twin Towers

Postby Robin Hood » Fri Sep 29, 2023 11:57 am

Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote: Never mind all the other evidence just that fact shows there ……………..


I think the first 6 words pretty much sum up Hood’s attitude to and obsession with the events of 9/11 and - what I stated above were “the facts” - never mind them or not.

I should add, like a lot of Conspiracy Theories, the perpetrators are ultimately presented as all-powerful, malignant and completely untraceable ghosts. Because ghosts of course is what they are.

Stupid ill-informed opinion like yours is one reason I never got into the Twin Towers 'explanation'. Too many experts like you that don't have a clue about the physics behind what you are looking at. You need someone to explain it all to you and that someone is ........ whoever is behind the official explanation.

I will stick to the principal of ..... if what I see conflicts with Newtons Laws of Motion and the 'official' explanation does not explain how it is possible ...... then I don't believe the explanation. It is only to a simpleton that this could possibly translate into the US Govt. being behind it all!

So RAKE before you open your mouth try learning a bit of basic physics ..... like Newtons Three Laws of Motion ...... because it is THAT which identifies what happened.
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Re: Twin Towers

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:17 pm

IQs < 0 have this tendency, to shelter themselves behind every official narrative without questioning, no matter how full or holes that is.
That's a perfect defense shield, it helps labeling everyone else a "conspiracy theorist".

Oh well, I guess that's the theme "du jour" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Twin Towers

Postby Londonrake » Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:04 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Stupid ill-informed opinion like yours is one reason I never got into the Twin Towers 'explanation'.


You're having a laff. Yes? I've lost count of the number of times you've posted your "Twin Towers explanation". It has to be at least a dozen. :wink:

Anyway, which "ill informed" opinion is that? Help me out here. Which part of this is incorrect? I'm all ears - but not holding my breath, sorta thing.

Londonrake wrote:In what was a well planned and coordinated attack (on YouTube you can find a video of Bin Laden and his cohorts boasting about it). 19 Saudi Al-Qaeda Islamists hijacked 4 US aircraft, using knives that were part of model construction tool kits. 7 of them had trained for months at US flight schools in simulators on how to fly the aircraft concerned.

Having seized control of the aircraft, one of them - flight 77 - headed to Arlington Virginia where it was crashed into the Pentagon. The passengers on a second - flight 93 - having realised what was happening, attacked the flight deck and the aircraft crashed into a field in rural Pennsylvania. It's target was in Washington and thought to be the Capitol. The other 2 - flights 11 and 175 - crashed into the WTC towers. Something like 80 million Americans and an estimated 2 billion other people watched the second plane crash and related events live. Subsequently, there were numerous forensic analyses of what happened, including a major US Commission public investigation.


Same ole MO Mr Hood. Zzzzzzzzzz. :D

1. Confine the victim to an area limited to that which you want to "discuss" (yeah, I know, that's funny :lol: but bear with me). Such as to exclude all factors they believe pertain to the subject.

2. Drag the prey down into the long grass and there asphyxiate them with minutiea.

3. Mission accomplished..................... "Shot down". :roll:

In this case it amounts to: "Forget all the irrelevant airplane stuff. That's just a distraction. It's all about Newton's Laws. Surely you're not refuting Newton's Laws? In which case you're clearly an idiot. Case proven ."

I'm sure I am not the only one to see the gaping holes in that. Excluding the usual team members of course, who would I'm sure, rush in to support a claim by another that the sun won't come up tomorrow. And moreover, how you're ignoring just about everything that happened that day, in order to concentrate myopically on one of your favourite Conspiracy Theories.

Is this where you wanted to be? :wink:
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Re: Twin Towers

Postby Londonrake » Fri Sep 29, 2023 8:22 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:IQs < 0 have this tendency, to shelter themselves behind every official narrative without questioning, no matter how full or holes that is.
That's a perfect defense shield, it helps labeling everyone else a "conspiracy theorist".

Oh well, I guess that's the theme "du jour" :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh no - it's the dreaded :lol: :lol: :lol:.

Clearly, you've nothing relevant to contribute to this OP and I doubt any interest. You've just popped in for a quick bully-boy quip. Can't resist them, can you?

Whilst you're here though, how about giving us the benefit of your giant intellect and letting us know what you think? On the OP subject that is. Do you believe that the WTC towers were demolished explosively by ................... well, somebody or other it seems but apparently they were American. Or, do you believe they were actually brought down by a couple of almost fully fuelled Boeing 767s hitting them at 500kts? Take your time, it's a difficult judgement to make.

I appreciate you have far more important things to concern yourself with on this forum. Principally, dishing out pro-Russian propaganda links and Telegram posts to other "same mindset" types.

Anyway, weren't you supposed to be ignoring me? Or, are you still working on "the list". You've almost reached that magic total of 6 active, team Russia, forum members. Don't give up.

To reiterate, why don't you just use the block option? That would free you up from being bothered by all this and spare me those :lol: :lol: :lol: . Mr GR clone.
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Re: Twin Towers

Postby Lordo » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:03 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:IQs < 0 have this tendency, to shelter themselves behind every official narrative without questioning, no matter how full or holes that is.
That's a perfect defense shield, it helps labeling everyone else a "conspiracy theorist".

Oh well, I guess that's the theme "du jour" :lol: :lol: :lol:

You do realise that what you have posted is normally what our Swine friend posts and he will not like it none.
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Re: Twin Towers

Postby Londonrake » Fri Sep 29, 2023 9:11 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:IQs < 0 have this tendency, to shelter themselves behind every official narrative without questioning, no matter how full or holes that is.
That's a perfect defense shield, it helps labeling everyone else a "conspiracy theorist".

Oh well, I guess that's the theme "du jour" :lol: :lol: :lol:

You do realise that what you have posted is normally what our Swine friend posts and he will not like it none.


I appreciate you're in an awkward situation. You obviously think Hood's conspiracy theory is ridiculous, too. On the other hand, you have to think of how you can escape upsetting "the boys". Difficult. Don't worry about it though. You've prostituted your "integrity" :lol: many times before. It's ended up with your simply not having any to worry about.

As far as "swine" is concerned. You use it so much about so many that in essence it's become meaninglessly enigmatic. I appreciate why you use it so much. Easy to spell, rather than all those other awkward words. :wink:
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Re: Twin Towers

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:14 am

Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:IQs < 0 have this tendency, to shelter themselves behind every official narrative without questioning, no matter how full or holes that is.
That's a perfect defense shield, it helps labeling everyone else a "conspiracy theorist".

Oh well, I guess that's the theme "du jour" :lol: :lol: :lol:

You do realise that what you have posted is normally what our Swine friend posts and he will not like it none.


I appreciate you're in an awkward situation. You obviously think Hood's conspiracy theory is ridiculous, too. On the other hand, you have to think of how you can escape upsetting "the boys". Difficult. Don't worry about it though. You've prostituted your "integrity" :lol: many times before. It's ended up with your simply not having any to worry about.

As far as "swine" is concerned. You use it so much about so many that in essence it's become meaninglessly enigmatic. I appreciate why you use it so much. Easy to spell, rather than all those other awkward words. :wink:



Oh Bravo! :P

Top marks for making that post at 9:11pm! :o
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Re: Twin Towers

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Sep 30, 2023 8:55 am

Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:IQs < 0 have this tendency, to shelter themselves behind every official narrative without questioning, no matter how full or holes that is.
That's a perfect defense shield, it helps labeling everyone else a "conspiracy theorist".

Oh well, I guess that's the theme "du jour" :lol: :lol: :lol:

You do realise that what you have posted is normally what our Swine friend posts and he will not like it none.


I appreciate you're in an awkward situation. You obviously think Hood's conspiracy theory is ridiculous, too. On the other hand, you have to think of how you can escape upsetting "the boys". Difficult. Don't worry about it though. You've prostituted your "integrity" :lol: many times before. It's ended up with your simply not having any to worry about.

As far as "swine" is concerned. You use it so much about so many that in essence it's become meaninglessly enigmatic. I appreciate why you use it so much. Easy to spell, rather than all those other awkward words. :wink:

FYI: Newtons Three Laws of Motion are considered among others, as the UNIVERSAL Laws of Physics. But you think they are conspiracy theories? :lol: Just shows how ill-informed you are. You seem to think your opinions of my explanations, and the explanation provided by anyone that disagrees with or challenges you, trumps the Universal Laws of Physics. I think that is best described as being rather CONCEITED especially as you never have an explanation of your own!

Your posts consist of one theme ..... to denigrate others that refuse to sing to your tune! You have absolutely NOTHING to support your opinion. All you can do is criticise and ridicule the opinions of others.

A simple FACT for you to consider is that everything that happened on 9/11, that we all saw on TV, was dictated by Newtons Universal Laws of Motion. That is clearly something you find difficult to accept.

LORDO: I disagree with your views but at least you explain them. If you understood Newtons Laws you would realise where and why your thinking does not work! I won't bore you with an explanation. Maybe you can explain how lightweight aerated concrete floors, just 4" thick, on corrugated steel sheet, supported by flimsy trusses .......... by collapsing because of fires brought down these towers, ........... but the RECORDED collapse rate was at free fall acceleration!

Ever heard of kinetic energy? There are two categories of energy, kinetic energy and potential energy. The difference between them is whether the energy is being transferred (kinetic) or stored (potential). They are interconvertible.? :wink:
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Re: Twin Towers

Postby cyprusgrump » Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:39 am

Robin Hood wrote:
Londonrake wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:IQs < 0 have this tendency, to shelter themselves behind every official narrative without questioning, no matter how full or holes that is.
That's a perfect defense shield, it helps labeling everyone else a "conspiracy theorist".

Oh well, I guess that's the theme "du jour" :lol: :lol: :lol:

You do realise that what you have posted is normally what our Swine friend posts and he will not like it none.


I appreciate you're in an awkward situation. You obviously think Hood's conspiracy theory is ridiculous, too. On the other hand, you have to think of how you can escape upsetting "the boys". Difficult. Don't worry about it though. You've prostituted your "integrity" :lol: many times before. It's ended up with your simply not having any to worry about.

As far as "swine" is concerned. You use it so much about so many that in essence it's become meaninglessly enigmatic. I appreciate why you use it so much. Easy to spell, rather than all those other awkward words. :wink:

FYI: Newtons Three Laws of Motion are considered among others, as the UNIVERSAL Laws of Physics. But you think they are conspiracy theories? :lol: Just shows how ill-informed you are. You seem to think your opinions of my explanations, and the explanation provided by anyone that disagrees with or challenges you, trumps the Universal Laws of Physics. I think that is best described as being rather CONCEITED especially as you never have an explanation of your own!

Your posts consist of one theme ..... to denigrate others that refuse to sing to your tune! You have absolutely NOTHING to support your opinion. All you can do is criticise and ridicule the opinions of others.

A simple FACT for you to consider is that everything that happened on 9/11, that we all saw on TV, was dictated by Newtons Universal Laws of Motion. That is clearly something you find difficult to accept.

LORDO: I disagree with your views but at least you explain them. If you understood Newtons Laws you would realise where and why your thinking does not work! I won't bore you with an explanation. Maybe you can explain how lightweight aerated concrete floors, just 4" thick, on corrugated steel sheet, supported by flimsy trusses .......... by collapsing because of fires brought down these towers, ........... but the RECORDED collapse rate was at free fall acceleration!

Ever heard of kinetic energy? There are two categories of energy, kinetic energy and potential energy. The difference between them is whether the energy is being transferred (kinetic) or stored (potential). They are interconvertible.? :wink:



You keep repeating ‘Newton’s Laws of Motion' but I suspect you don’t really understand them nor do you have an explanation of what you think really happened. :?

I think you’re suggesting that under the eyes of the thousands of people that worked in those buildings, the visitors, the security, the delivery men, etc. a team of Demolition Experts wired the building with thousands of explosive charges, linked with miles of Detonation Cord. Yet nobody noticed anything odd… Not one person?

Anybody that has ever watched one of those Demolition Videos where they knock down a hotel in Vegas or a block of apartments can see what a huge job it would be. Not only the miles of Detonation Cord and the thousands of explosive charges, they often have to remove big chunks of the structure to make sure it falls ‘properly’...

But nobody noticed all this work, Not one person?

And then, they persuaded a bunch of terrorists to learn how to fly and fly the aircraft into the buildings – yet even though they were amateur fliers they hit the building so precisely as to not disrupt the incredibly complicated network of explosives and detonation cord that had been fixed in the building to ensure its destruction?

And yet, years later not one person apparently involved in this huge operation has come forward. Not one person with the deaths of thousands on their conscience has decided to speak out. Not one conspiracy theorist like yourself has managed to find any solid evidence like an unusual amount of explosives being purchased by a demolition company. Nothing.

Sometimes we have to rely on Occam's razor…

Terrorists flew planes into the building causing vast damage and an inferno which caused them to collapse.
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Re: Twin Towers

Postby Lordo » Sat Sep 30, 2023 11:43 am

Flippen heck RH, last time I looked at Newton Laws of motion was back in the 70s.

1. A body continues in a state of uniform rest or motion unless acted upon by an external force.
2 The acceleration produced when a force acts is directly proportional to the force and takes place in the direction in which the force acts.
3 To every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.

But the situation here was this.

1. We have a beam which has been constructed as a frame rather than full steel.
2. The said beam has sprayed on it fire retardant.
3. An explosion takes place which strips the fire retardant - Newton law
4. Immediately followed by intense heat.
5. As has been shown in the clip it takes about half an hour or so for the beam to heat enough to begin to weaken.
6. Once the beam is week enough the bolts holding it snaps and it collapses on to the floor below. Newton law

The actual explosion and the effect it has is clearly part of the Newton Laws as well as the collapse of the building. The forces on the floor are it's weight and gravity which explains the noise and the speed at which the building collapsed as it did and how fast it did.

Indeed the floor had plenty of potential energy and once the bolts were snapped it got released as kinetic energy.
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