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[Robin Hood]

(...there is still no reason to believe that the "Russians" despite having 4 charged know the facts to this crime)

Yet, within hours of that event, Putin had no problem in declaring Ukraine complicit.

He had people in custody ...... that is when these sort of people find out adrenalin is brown, sticky and stinks of s**t. They would start talking immediately ..... that's how the Russians managed to arrest the otherers in the plot almost immediately.

You have changed your tune? It only took 2 hours after the crash for Kerry to convince you the Russians were absolutely responsible and they shot down MH17 ..... because he said he had ALL the evidence ............and you believed him.

Ukraine was complicit! The immediacy of the White House response that definitely Ukraine was not involved that exposed that! (55 minutes I believe?)

[Londonrake]

(...there is still no reason to believe that the "Russians" despite having 4 charged know the facts to this crime)

Yet, within hours of that event, Putin had no problem in declaring Ukraine complicit.

He had people in custody ...... that is when these sort of people find out adrenalin is brown, sticky and stinks of s**t. They would start talking immediately ..... that's how the Russians managed to arrest the otherers in the plot almost immediately.

You have changed your tune? It only took 2 hours after the crash for Kerry to convince you the Russians were absolutely responsible and they shot down MH17 ..... because he said he had ALL the evidence ............and you believed him.

Ukraine was complicit! The immediacy of the White House response that definitely Ukraine was not involved that exposed that! (55 minutes I believe?)

I'm glad you brought up your points in here. You probably hadn't realised but I find Mr Lordo not to my taste, for a number of reasons. Despite our long standing differences I've been disappointed in how you seem to overlook all of his "Swinecunt" material, apparently because he sycophantically sings from your song sheet.

Anyway, I don't have time at the moment (busy downing a few bottles of gin ) but hopefully will get back to the subject soon.

[Kikapu]

Anyone who think that the terrorist act in Moscow only involved ISIS members and did not involve Ukraine, US, UK, NATO et al can only be brain dead sleep walking gullible zombies. This is not the first time the “usual suspects” have lied for committing terrorist acts against Russia or against Russian speaking Ukrainians in Ukraine.

[Robin Hood]

Anyone who think that the terrorist act in Moscow only involved ISIS members and did not involve Ukraine, US, UK, NATO et al can only be brain dead sleep walking gullible zombies. This is not the first time the “usual suspects” have lied for committing terrorist acts against Russia or against Russian speaking Ukrainians in Ukraine.

You are almost certainly correct with that observation. Although there are those that believe the 'official narrative' because those they place so much trust in have got them to believe Russia is BAD but then ...... they also think the Earth is flat and the Moon is made of cheese.

[Londonrake]

(...there is still no reason to believe that the "Russians" despite having 4 charged know the facts to this crime)

Yet, within hours of that event, Putin had no problem in declaring Ukraine complicit.

He had people in custody ...... that is when these sort of people find out adrenalin is brown, sticky and stinks of s**t. They would start talking immediately ..... that's how the Russians managed to arrest the otherers in the plot almost immediately.

And yet, in his public address the next day Putin never mentioned Islamists. Although, he had no problem implicating Ukraine. Of course, doing that wouldn't at all provide a hoped for tsunami of support for his murderous warmongering in that country. I fervently hope, given the very public warning and his very public dismissal of it, your average Russian isn't that stupid.

You have changed your tune? It only took 2 hours after the crash for Kerry to convince you the Russians were absolutely responsible and they shot down MH17 ..... because he said he had ALL the evidence ............and you believed him.

Perhaps the "common sense" you seem to feel I lack. IIRC you immediately took up the Russian claim the Ukranians diverted its flight path to an area where one of their aircraft shot it down. But then, you always do swallow whatever comes out of Moscow/Tehran/Pyongyang or Beijing - without question. I can't think of a single occasion in 15 years where you've had doubts about any of it. No matter how absurd. Let alone disagreed. *****

As it happens, after a year long in-depth investigation of the incident the Dutch led inquiry pretty much confirmed the initial intelligence reports.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia_ ... _Flight_17

https://www.prosecutionservice.nl/topic ... n-jit-mh17


Ukraine was complicit! The immediacy of the White House response that definitely Ukraine was not involved that exposed that! (55 minutes I believe?)

I don't understand your continuing confusion. Wait, yes I do! it's not confusion of course, it's an attempt at obfuscation.

The US Embassy issued a public warning they had intel pointing to ISIS planning an imminent attack on a crowd situation in Moscow. Even citing concerts as being a likely target. Putin publicly and contemptuously trashed it. When,19 days later, an attack took place at the Crocus concert - 133 killed - carried out by a small group of men in a manner virtually identical to what happened when Islamists attacked the Bataclan concert in Paris, it became immediately obvious what had taken place.
It took 3 days though, when the evidence it was an ISIS operation became undeniable, before Putin even mentioned the word Islamist. That, despite the fact he pinned it on Ukraine, without a shred of evidence, almost immediately. Now it seems it's even worse! Both the UK and US were part of the conspiracy (there's that word again). Despite the obvious fact the ramifications of it being proven they were involved in such an event would be far reaching (understatement).

It's Bullshit! And, although with unfailing loyalty you tow the Dictatorial lines, I suspect you actually know that.

***** Whilst you've often accused myself and others of being "programmed", "not able to think outside the box" "sheepishly following the Western MSM". Completely oblivious to the hypocrisy of your slavish acceptance of all and anything coming from your much loved dictatorships.

[Londonrake]

Anyone who think that the terrorist act in Moscow only involved ISIS members and did not involve Ukraine, US, UK, NATO et al can only be brain dead sleep walking gullible zombies. This is not the first time the “usual suspects” have lied for committing terrorist acts against Russia or against Russian speaking Ukrainians in Ukraine.

You are almost certainly correct with that observation. Although there are those that believe the 'official narrative' because those they place so much trust in have got them to believe Russia is BAD but then ...... they also think the Earth is flat and the Moon is made of cheese.

The usual - and expected - litany of evidence-free, bully-boy, slagging off stuff. Not a fact in sight.

I'm afraid Mr Hood, more hypocrisy. It's your decades of immersion in the fantasy world of Conspiracy Theories that's fostered in you the ability to believe absolutely anything, no matter how absurd. Apart from the truth that stares you in the face that is.

If Vladimir Putin were to declare the sun will not be coming up tomorrow you'd be on the forums faithfully preaching and defending it. When it did come up you'd say how angry it will have made the man and that the Sun was going to get what it deserved from him. You could never of course simply be wrong about anything.

Don't let me interrupt your mutual admiration postings though.

Putin screwed up, very publicly and big-time. All the buck passing BS in the world can't cover that up.