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[twinkle]

Well that my be so. But it dose'nt stop us from being Greek. What exactly is your point? That we stop thinking of ourselves as Greek and become Cypriots. We are both.

Have you seen my other thread re: Greek Nationals in Cyprus? If we are one of the same then why do Cypriots treat Greeks as foreigners and they have to go through the same procedures as immigrants???? Double standards!

[Michael]

Also, the fact that GC's in London are so fanatical to be GC is because there is no sense of National Pride (Cypriot) national pride here in Cyprus. People need to belong to something/somewhere and as there is more (it seems) to be proud of as a Greek, they would rather be seen as GC than just Cypriot.

What exactly is your point. Being proud to be Greek and Cypriot does not make you a fanatic. Greek Cypriots know where they belong. All this Greek , Greek Cypriot, Cypriot is just semantics. The common thread is that we are Greek and Cypriot. No Greek Cypriot, thinks of himself as Turkish and Cypriot

[Michael]

Well that my be so. But it dose'nt stop us from being Greek. What exactly is your point? That we stop thinking of ourselves as Greek and become Cypriots. We are both.

Have you seen my other thread re: Greek Nationals in Cyprus? If we are one of the same then why do Cypriots treat Greeks as foreigners and they have to go through the same procedures as immigrants???? Double standards!

Of course they do. Events outside our control, landed us a soverign state called Cyprus. Therefore if Greeks visited Cyprus then they would be obliged to have a valid visa. But nobody ( Greek Cypriots ) in their right mind thinks of Greeks as foreigners.

[twinkle]

My point is ...BE CYPRIOT!

[Michael]

Well that is obviously only half the story. Being just Cypriot without the Greek is meaningless. You may feel that but you know the rest of us dont.

[twinkle]

Well that is obviously only half the story. Being just Cypriot without the Greek is meaningless. You may feel that but you know the rest of us dont.

Dear Lord! You've just said it. To be Cypriot is Meaningless!! There is no national pride as far as you are concerned.

Michael, Greece and Cyprus are independant, separate countries and Cyprus is a republic not a sovereign state.

[Michael]

Well that is obviously only half the story. Being just Cypriot without the Greek is meaningless. You may feel that but you know the rest of us dont.

Dear Lord! You've just said it. To be Cypriot is Meaningless!! There is no national pride as far as you are concerned.

Michael, Greece and Cyprus are independant, separate countries and Cyprus is a republic not a sovereign state.

We are going around in circles. Cyprus is an island populated by Greek and Turks. I , and I would think most rightminded people , are proud to be Greek and Cypriot. Is that simple enough for you.

[Cov]

Unfortunately Twinkle you will always get people who feel that there "ancestry" is fundamentally more important than there actual country of birth.

I have known English people who have been hear 4 or 5 generations still go on about there "real" roots back in Jamaica......even if they have never been there or may on holiday.They fly the flag,say a few words,complain constantly about there country of birth........people sometimes just don't know when to move on from the past and embrace the future.

[The Cypriot]

The Cypriot people have endured long: through century upon century of foreign domination. It is an experience that has served to strengthen and enrich us. Invaders may have contributed to our culture, our language, our genes. But they could not supplant us. Nor could they crush our indomitable spirit.

Many Cypriots trace part of their heritage to past colonists. Some converted to Islam during the arduous years of Ottoman rule. Most retained the Orthodox Christian faith brought to the island by Saint Paul. And still more speak the distinctive vernacular introduced before the time of Christ, a language related to that of Homer.

But does a connection with Islam or an Ottoman ancestor make us Turkish? Must the rest of us be Greek? When we have no home other than our beloved common island? When we should have no ties of kinship other than to each other?

It is time to declare what we are. To demand to be called what we are. To object to being labelled by divisive and belittling identifiers that are ethnically, historically and politically incorrect.

We must remind ourselves, and the world, who we are.

We are Cypriots – without qualification or equivocation.

Yes, we are Cypriots. Nothing less. A united people from an indivisible island.

[Michael]

Unfortunately Twinkle you will always get people who feel that there "ancestry" is fundamentally more important than there actual country of birth.

I have known English people who have been hear 4 or 5 generations still go on about there "real" roots back in Jamaica......even if they have never been there or may on holiday.They fly the flag,say a few words,complain constantly about there country of birth........people sometimes just don't know when to move on from the past and embrace the future.

I dont think its unfortunate to hold on to who you are. Yes lets stop being who we are and embrace the future. What exactly is that future?