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Postby BirKibrisli » Fri Feb 10, 2006 1:57 pm

Welcome to the forum,The Cypriot.
You make some of us feel less lonely :D
Looking forward to reading your posts,my fellow compatriot :wink:
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Postby The Cypriot » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:20 pm

Thank you Birkibrisli! Don't be lonely. There are more and more people beginning to share our vision. That realise that whichever history we choose to construct for ourselves, we must all work together to construct a single future. A future in which all Cypriots have an equal stake.
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Postby dms007 » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:40 pm

i think it is because of people like michael that cyprus is not making any progress and i doubt that it ever will....they have to start teaching about being united right from the schools....that is the only way that this hatred or prejudice or whatever it is will be rooted out.
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Postby The Cypriot » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:57 pm

Too true!

It's not history they've been learning in school - it's hatred.
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Postby twinkle » Fri Feb 10, 2006 2:59 pm

Did you know that a small village between Larnaca and Limassol had their school play before christmas and the children were taught to fight and hate the turkish soldier?? There is no hope if it's coming up the ranks of education.
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Postby Cov » Fri Feb 10, 2006 3:47 pm

Michael wrote:
Cov wrote:Unfortunately Twinkle you will always get people who feel that there "ancestry" is fundamentally more important than there actual country of birth.

I have known English people who have been hear 4 or 5 generations still go on about there "real" roots back in Jamaica......even if they have never been there or may on holiday.They fly the flag,say a few words,complain constantly about there country of birth........people sometimes just don't know when to move on from the past and embrace the future.


I dont think its unfortunate to hold on to who you are. Yes lets stop being who we are and embrace the future. What exactly is that future?


What i mean by this is that you should look towards the future as a united country.For all the rhetoric from both sides you are one country.......whether Greek or Turkish......above all you are Cypriot.Every country in history has influx of other nationals/faiths/colours into there part of the world.
look at it this way.

What makes a country?

Is it the language??.....lots speak English?
Is it your religion?.......lots have multiple religions.
Your colour?........ :roll:

I have an idea......maybe your family?friends?the people you hold dear?

Oh and a small point.I never once said stop being who you are.....infact maybe you should be more inclined to accept what you are.......Cypriot.
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Postby The Cypriot » Fri Feb 10, 2006 6:16 pm

Bravo and thank you, Cov!

Being a Cypriot - nothing less - is a state of mind.

And everyone who loves this beautiful island and all her people, values her unique blend of culture, and yearns to see her truly whole again is welcome.

Gobgiasde!
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Re: National Pride

Postby Venizelist » Sat Feb 11, 2006 2:52 am

twinkle wrote:Also, why, when Greece won the EUrovision, did I hear Cypriots saying, "we won"? You didn't .Greece won and Cyprus came about 18th
It's becuase they are from Greek ancestry. Nothing wrong with that. Say one person was born in Cyprus and he was part Italian and also part Cypriot. Say Italy won the world cup again. That Italian Cypriot has every right to celebrate with the Italians and waive Italian flags becuase he is also Italian and proud of his nationality and what Italy has done. Same thing with most of the Cypriots.
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Postby Mikros » Sat Feb 11, 2006 8:44 am

Venizelist, I have to partially disagree with you on this. Your statement is true if one parent or grandparent is Italian and the other Cypriot. Otherwise I should be Italian as well, since my grand-grand-grandmother was indeed Italian, according to the family history tree...
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Postby Piratis » Sat Feb 11, 2006 11:11 am

I am a Greek Cypriot from Limassol. So I am first Limassolian, then Cypriot, then Greek, then European ... then living being of the Milky way galaxy ...

Nothing can stop us from being Cypriot (first) and also Greek or Turkish. Like in the USA they have African Americans, Asian Americans etc.

What we need for a united Cyprus is tolerance of the characteristics of our compatriots, and that these differences can enrich our country, not be an excuse for conflict.

However I can perfectly understand those that say: "Forget Greek/Turkish part, we are just Cypriots". This would indeed be a useful policy of a Cypriot government if the conclusion is that Cypriots are so stupid to understand that they will only loose (all of them) if they fall in the trap of some outsiders that will always try to use our differences to create conflicts between us for their own interests.

Still I hope that Cypriots will wake up and understand that the only way forward is if all Cypriots are equal citizens of our one common and indivisible island, without any kind of discriminations based on our differences( religion, language etc).


Birkibrisli, I think the term Greek/Turkish Cypriot is more correct than Cypriotturk/CypriotGreek since the noun in the first case is the "Cypriot" which in my opinion carries more weight than the adjective "Greek/Turkish" which is just an attribute of the noun (Cypriot).

If you say CypriotTurk, then "Cypriot" becomes just an attribute.

The again there is high possibility I am wrong in this since I was never good in grammar ...
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