GPS devices
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by Mikros » Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:17 pm
Andri, sometimes electronic gadgets from US are supplied only with 110V, US plugs, and some only-for-US features, so this will make the whole purchase and hassle not worth. Therefore I try to find it either from UK or from Greece.
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by Zox » Wed Mar 08, 2006 3:39 am
GPS technology vs. striptease bars
Dear my fellows on Cyprus forum
Like I said few months ago, all digitalization is finished, GPS maps was successfully tested, but… you will probably never see or by this product from my company.
What happened?
I will try to explain to you in short lines and using my poor English, so please, forgive me on some spelling mistakes and grammar.
Some six years ago I visit Cyprus for the first time, I like it very much and my family and I decide to stay there. Everything was fine until I decide to start my own company and to do something what I know the best, and that is cartography, mapping and engineering.
I open local company, start with my works, I pay vat and taxes regularly, everything was quite good, I invest money in technology, licenses… and it happened. They call us from immigration and tell us that we have to leave Cyprus. Just like that. Ok, I said, it must bee some mistake, why they aloud us to open company if they didn’t want us there? So, I inform my lawyer and we complain about that. We done all necessary things by the law for foreigner’s investors and company was registries by the book.
Arresting
That was quite fast. Officers was very correct, still I was thinking – we will find what is all about. But, they put me to the jail.
Jail
You do not want to know too much about that, believe me. In three cells about 4 meters by 2 they have 3 beds. And 17 of us. There is a small hall, toilet and shower, which you cannot use because water is going in hall and cells. You get bred, ½ of milk, some of 25-30 olives, one tomato and sometimes cheese. That is for a day.
Deporting
After 7 days they deported me. Without court, explanation what was all about. But, I was happy in one way, to go out of prison.
My family
My family stay there, my wife was trying to find out why they do not respect their own law, I was still hopping that was some mistake or whatever… I have company but I cannot work there. Mr. Cyprus likes to receive money but only to receive.
Anyway… my wife and I decide that if we cannot fix that problem until end of the school year, they will leave Cyprus. We do not want to live separate, even kids like there, even my son won on one competition and he get scholarship on Frederick institute of ethnology –architecture.
The latest news
My wife is arrested yesterday. She is in jail now and waiting for deportation. My son and daughter are home alone. Thanks to God, they are not in prison. They are waiting for deportation too. They will loose one school year; immigration could not wait until end of school.
What can I say?
It looks like we are family of criminals. All of us.
And, you do not need some stupid navigation technology from criminals. Right? Better use that money and go to striptease bars.
Welcome to Cyprus.
Actually, you do not need to bother and go there, just send them your money.
Dear my fellows on Cyprus forum
Like I said few months ago, all digitalization is finished, GPS maps was successfully tested, but… you will probably never see or by this product from my company.
What happened?
I will try to explain to you in short lines and using my poor English, so please, forgive me on some spelling mistakes and grammar.
Some six years ago I visit Cyprus for the first time, I like it very much and my family and I decide to stay there. Everything was fine until I decide to start my own company and to do something what I know the best, and that is cartography, mapping and engineering.
I open local company, start with my works, I pay vat and taxes regularly, everything was quite good, I invest money in technology, licenses… and it happened. They call us from immigration and tell us that we have to leave Cyprus. Just like that. Ok, I said, it must bee some mistake, why they aloud us to open company if they didn’t want us there? So, I inform my lawyer and we complain about that. We done all necessary things by the law for foreigner’s investors and company was registries by the book.
Arresting
That was quite fast. Officers was very correct, still I was thinking – we will find what is all about. But, they put me to the jail.
Jail
You do not want to know too much about that, believe me. In three cells about 4 meters by 2 they have 3 beds. And 17 of us. There is a small hall, toilet and shower, which you cannot use because water is going in hall and cells. You get bred, ½ of milk, some of 25-30 olives, one tomato and sometimes cheese. That is for a day.
Deporting
After 7 days they deported me. Without court, explanation what was all about. But, I was happy in one way, to go out of prison.
My family
My family stay there, my wife was trying to find out why they do not respect their own law, I was still hopping that was some mistake or whatever… I have company but I cannot work there. Mr. Cyprus likes to receive money but only to receive.
Anyway… my wife and I decide that if we cannot fix that problem until end of the school year, they will leave Cyprus. We do not want to live separate, even kids like there, even my son won on one competition and he get scholarship on Frederick institute of ethnology –architecture.
The latest news
My wife is arrested yesterday. She is in jail now and waiting for deportation. My son and daughter are home alone. Thanks to God, they are not in prison. They are waiting for deportation too. They will loose one school year; immigration could not wait until end of school.
What can I say?
It looks like we are family of criminals. All of us.
And, you do not need some stupid navigation technology from criminals. Right? Better use that money and go to striptease bars.
Welcome to Cyprus.
Actually, you do not need to bother and go there, just send them your money.
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by andri_cy » Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:09 pm
actually I have no ways to watch news watsoever. Where I live there is no greek community so no channels available through cable or anything. I guess I am outdated. Havent been home for 6 + years. So they do stuff like that now? Shame on them...
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by Zox » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:21 pm
Immigration: we can’t have our cake and eat it
BARELY a week goes by without the immigration department being accused of arbitrary behaviour in summary deportations of foreign nationals. Indeed, there is little doubt that the cases that come to our attention are the tip of the iceberg, involving people with friends or relatives confident enough to pick up the phone to report their plight to the Ombudswoman or the media.
Many of the cases highlighted on these pages in recent months have involved deportations of third country nationals married to EU or even Cypriot citizens, or of foreigners thrown out of the country despite having legally been in residence for more than five years – the threshold defined by the European Union for automatic access to permanent residency.
How many more cases there must be, where deportees do not have an articulate local to speak up on their behalf, or where, while their deportations might be justified, due procedures have been ignored and their basic rights trampled in the process?
There is no doubt that the authorities are swamped under the weight of applications. Immigration to the island has spiralled in the past few years, to the point where Cyprus now has the highest concentration of asylum seekers per capita in the EU.
Understaffed and with little time or inclination for the niceties of EU law, it is hardly surprising that the officers are offhand in their treatment of applicants.
Rather, it is to their political masters that we should look for answers. In any other country in Europe, immigration would be a top issue. In Cyprus there isn’t even the hint of a debate. And yet there should be: not the kind of strident debate driven by the far right, but a rational discussion of our immigration needs.
Cyprus needs foreign labour: our economy would come to a standstill without it. And so far we have tried to have our cake and eat it, to bring workers in without having to consider the social repercussions. For a while, our system of high turnover immigration has worked, but it is beginning to show the strain, and the EU’s directive on residency rights has pointed the spotlight on its shortcomings. The government’s answer is a wave of deportations – some legitimate, others not – but this is a short-term answer that has to stop.
Migrants have rights. Just as generations of Cypriots built new lives in England, Australia or America, so Serbs, Ukrainians, Syrians or Sri Lankans legally working here for more than five years should have the right to build a new life in Cyprus.
Take the Serbian family in the headlines this week. They had jobs, they were not ‘scrounging’ off the system but contributing to it through tax and social security payments, their children were at Greek schools and would have grown up as Cypriots if allowed to.
Is this such a bad thing in a country with a falling birth rate and a severe labour shortage? If we need foreign workers, then we must treat them with respect and within the rule of law, not abandon their fates to the whims of overworked immigration officials.
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2005
BARELY a week goes by without the immigration department being accused of arbitrary behaviour in summary deportations of foreign nationals. Indeed, there is little doubt that the cases that come to our attention are the tip of the iceberg, involving people with friends or relatives confident enough to pick up the phone to report their plight to the Ombudswoman or the media.
Many of the cases highlighted on these pages in recent months have involved deportations of third country nationals married to EU or even Cypriot citizens, or of foreigners thrown out of the country despite having legally been in residence for more than five years – the threshold defined by the European Union for automatic access to permanent residency.
How many more cases there must be, where deportees do not have an articulate local to speak up on their behalf, or where, while their deportations might be justified, due procedures have been ignored and their basic rights trampled in the process?
There is no doubt that the authorities are swamped under the weight of applications. Immigration to the island has spiralled in the past few years, to the point where Cyprus now has the highest concentration of asylum seekers per capita in the EU.
Understaffed and with little time or inclination for the niceties of EU law, it is hardly surprising that the officers are offhand in their treatment of applicants.
Rather, it is to their political masters that we should look for answers. In any other country in Europe, immigration would be a top issue. In Cyprus there isn’t even the hint of a debate. And yet there should be: not the kind of strident debate driven by the far right, but a rational discussion of our immigration needs.
Cyprus needs foreign labour: our economy would come to a standstill without it. And so far we have tried to have our cake and eat it, to bring workers in without having to consider the social repercussions. For a while, our system of high turnover immigration has worked, but it is beginning to show the strain, and the EU’s directive on residency rights has pointed the spotlight on its shortcomings. The government’s answer is a wave of deportations – some legitimate, others not – but this is a short-term answer that has to stop.
Migrants have rights. Just as generations of Cypriots built new lives in England, Australia or America, so Serbs, Ukrainians, Syrians or Sri Lankans legally working here for more than five years should have the right to build a new life in Cyprus.
Take the Serbian family in the headlines this week. They had jobs, they were not ‘scrounging’ off the system but contributing to it through tax and social security payments, their children were at Greek schools and would have grown up as Cypriots if allowed to.
Is this such a bad thing in a country with a falling birth rate and a severe labour shortage? If we need foreign workers, then we must treat them with respect and within the rule of law, not abandon their fates to the whims of overworked immigration officials.
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2005
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by Mikros » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:58 pm
Well, this attitude is what makes me feel ashamed fro being a Cypriot, and want to move to another more civilised country, which irrespective of the other problems will not work with an ancient attitude....
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