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by **StuartN** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 9:23 pm

Errr- what are you getting at my retired2 friend? - perhaps the Efes is talking (although I understand that Fasl Gold is now available in one of the shops on the main road)

by **andri_cy** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:35 am

stuballstu wrote:Sotos its my understanding that most GC's who live in former TC's houses look at it as though they are living on borrowed land. Is this right?
From what i gather the government here is looking at issuing title deeds for these properties. Is it not the case that the ROC government has been using the "you will get your land back" line in order to win votes? Sometimes people get told what they'd like to hear and now what is the truth and as we know in the wonderful world of politics when poloticians talk about "economics" it is not making reference to finance but truths.

The governement wont be giving deeds to anyone for TC land. They will only give deeds and titles to government land. The people who live in TC homes will be allowed to use them but they will not get the deed to it.

by **andri_cy** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 1:40 am

stuballstu wrote:
Andri

There are lots of permutations to the Cyprob and in will continue to have more when it finally comes about. It is not inconveibable that the problems may go on for another 15 years . Say in that time Turkey overcome all sorts of obstacles and enter the EU that Turkish settler has rights as an EU citizen and you cant just throw them off the island. Also from what i understand (maybe someone else can confirm this) to buy property in the North you must have permission to do so from the Turkish authorities similiar to what used to be in the South. If the Turkish authorities give you permission to buy and issue deeds and the property is returned to the GC refugee then you can see another line up of court cases at ECHR. This would cost a lot more money for Turkey than paying compensation to the refugee who at one time had an orchard on it. From what i gather the compensation rate would be the same or a similiar formula that the ROC government use when appropriating property.

Well that is true. Who knows. I am giving myself a headache just thinking about it. I wonder if say my daughter would have problems with owning family land in the south later on because she is an american citizen. The laws and stuff with the EU is starting to make me crazy

by **lysi** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:53 am

RETARDED2CYPRUS, you and your group of british property crooks must know that the rightful owners of the land that you and your bent pals live on will one day be returned to the greek cypriot legal owners. And you and your crooked pals will be out on your ear.

by **stuballstu** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:48 pm

Andri

Welcome to the wonderful world of the EU :roll:

by **stuballstu** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 7:48 pm

Lysi
Is there any need to be insulting towards someone i though it wasnt allowed. What has Retired to Cyprus said to you that has made you insult him at every opportunity. I remember earlier he invited you to meet him for a friendly drink and even offered to travel to the South to meet you fro the friendly drink and discussion. Whilst i can have sympathy with the way you feel insulting people at every opportunity it not the answer. I take it you haven't read that book
"How to win friends and influence people"?

Maybe a good starting point to take out your frustrations would be the ROC government and lobby them to do more to bring TC's to the negotiating table and bring about a solution.

A change in attitude may bring about a new page in a solution.

by **andri_cy** » Wed Mar 29, 2006 8:55 pm

wow thats an old old book. I read it when I was 12. Almost made me lose the friends I had ! jk jk
Anyways it seems everyone is being kind of rude now and then on here. So long as they dont cuss each other out, they dont seem to get in too much trouble.

by **stuballstu** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:37 pm

wow thats an old old book. I read it when I was 12. Almost made me lose the friends I had ! jk jk

Very good

Adri

I do have sympathy for refugees who cant return, and i dont envy their feeling or want to sound either dis respectful or condesending towards them. There does come a point that they become realistic and come to terms that they may never be able to return to what they left. A question i have asked to those claiming to be refugees on this forum and many other BB's is "Would they be willing to sacrifice what they have lost in return for a solution for a united island and thus giving their children and childrens children the opportunity of a "new" Cypriot Cyprus?"

One GC friend of a friend told me that his belief is that he WILL get his land back which now has houses on it and will force those whos houses are built there to pull them down and re plant the olive trees which he had in the 60s and 70s. His children who are in their 30's dont share the same enthusiasm. They would like the land back but have no idea what purpose they would do with the land as they dont want to move away from where they are at the moment and displace their own young families just to move back to something that they have very little recollection of. In front of their father they have to be seen to agreeing with him out of respect for him, however privately they do not have the same enthusiasm. However what has pissed them off, as well as their father, is the fact that houses are on what they call "their" land. They see that more as a violation that someone else has profited from their land other than themselves. I dont know if it is a question of the money or the principle, for them anyway, it maybe both.

However no matter what solution is finally thrashed out not everyone will be please with it and there will be some winners and losers