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Re: Turkey vs Israel

Postby Maximus » Tue Jul 15, 2025 6:19 pm

The mentality you describe Lordo — whether it’s justifying eviction as “reclamation” in the West Bank or in "northern Cyprus" or telling GC's “to f off to Greece” — contradicts both international law and common decency.

Dispossession and collective punishment cannot be excused by appeals to historic entitlement or national propaganda and made up narratives, which you are guilty of.

Genuine law and order means individual rights are respected and protected, not overridden by the ideology of the conquest and being the most powerful.

The selective application of law and order in your case only exposes the underlying injustice of your puerile arguments and they have nothing to do with Turkey vs Israel.

Because whatever Israelis claims in Palestine, Turks, as historical colonizers and invaders of Cyprus continue to do the same today.

By denying the GC's their ancestry and heritage on the island of Cyprus, that spans back a few thousand yours, your diatribes show you are no better than those you criticise so vehemently, and someone who is not capable of self awareness and introspection.
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Re: Turkey vs Israel

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:09 pm

Maximus wrote:The mentality you describe Lordo — whether it’s justifying eviction as “reclamation” in the West Bank or in "northern Cyprus" or telling GC's “to f off to Greece” — contradicts both international law and common decency.

Dispossession and collective punishment cannot be excused by appeals to historic entitlement or national propaganda and made up narratives, which you are guilty of.

Genuine law and order means individual rights are respected and protected, not overridden by the ideology of the conquest and being the most powerful.

The selective application of law and order in your case only exposes the underlying injustice of your puerile arguments and they have nothing to do with Turkey vs Israel.

Because whatever Israelis claims in Palestine, Turks, as historical colonizers and invaders of Cyprus continue to do the same today.

By denying the GC's their ancestry and heritage on the island of Cyprus, that spans back a few thousand yours, your diatribes show you are no better than those you criticise so vehemently, and someone who is not capable of self awareness and introspection.


That's an interesting post. One I can appreciate. Although, I usually make a point, as a grateful resident here, of staying away from such issues. Nevertheless, I feel bound to ask....................... do you really think somebody like Lordo can respond to an issue like that intelligently? :? I suspect you will shortly be on the receiving end of a toilet brush - or something equally intellectual.
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Re: Turkey vs Israel

Postby Lordo » Sat Jul 19, 2025 11:39 pm

Here is another similarity between RoC and Israel. No Israeli ever gets prosecuted for killing a Palestinian. The same is true of the RoC, go GC ever got investigated never mind prosecuted for killing a TC. If anything RoC police helped Eoka kill TCs and even took part in the killings.

Another similarity was RoC put in charge of the police force a known murderer, Yorgadjis. So has Israle.

I know, I know, you can make the same claim about TRNC in the north but there is one difference. The North is not a recognised legal country.
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Re: Turkey vs Israel

Postby Maximus » Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:04 pm

Londonrake wrote:
Maximus wrote:The mentality you describe Lordo — whether it’s justifying eviction as “reclamation” in the West Bank or in "northern Cyprus" or telling GC's “to f off to Greece” — contradicts both international law and common decency.

Dispossession and collective punishment cannot be excused by appeals to historic entitlement or national propaganda and made up narratives, which you are guilty of.

Genuine law and order means individual rights are respected and protected, not overridden by the ideology of the conquest and being the most powerful.

The selective application of law and order in your case only exposes the underlying injustice of your puerile arguments and they have nothing to do with Turkey vs Israel.

Because whatever Israelis claims in Palestine, Turks, as historical colonizers and invaders of Cyprus continue to do the same today.

By denying the GC's their ancestry and heritage on the island of Cyprus, that spans back a few thousand yours, your diatribes show you are no better than those you criticise so vehemently, and someone who is not capable of self awareness and introspection.


That's an interesting post. One I can appreciate. Although, I usually make a point, as a grateful resident here, of staying away from such issues. Nevertheless, I feel bound to ask....................... do you really think somebody like Lordo can respond to an issue like that intelligently? :? I suspect you will shortly be on the receiving end of a toilet brush - or something equally intellectual.


No, he can not respond intelligently, it is evident that all his posts are comparing the Greek Cypriots with Israel, in a thread he started that is about Turkey vs Israel.

He selectively ignores the fact Cyprus and the Greek Cypriots were colonized by his "motherland", because his interests and identity depends on him not recognizing it.
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Re: Turkey vs Israel

Postby Maximus » Sun Jul 20, 2025 10:39 pm

Lordo wrote:Here is another similarity between RoC and Israel. No Israeli ever gets prosecuted for killing a Palestinian. The same is true of the RoC, go GC ever got investigated never mind prosecuted for killing a TC. If anything RoC police helped Eoka kill TCs and even took part in the killings.

Another similarity was RoC put in charge of the police force a known murderer, Yorgadjis. So has Israle.

I know, I know, you can make the same claim about TRNC in the north but there is one difference. The North is not a recognised legal country.


These are not similarities, they are inaccurate statements and over generalizations.

I will prove it to you:

"No Israeli ever gets prosecuted for killing a Palestinian."

Incorrect, there have been prosecutions of Israelis, including soldiers, for the killing of Palestinians. Simple research will show this.

"The same is true of the RoC, go GC ever got investigated never mind prosecuted for killing a TC."

it is not accurate to say that “no GC was ever investigated” for such acts: documentation shows that, at times, investigations did take place, but issues such as lack of cooperation between the two sides, jurisdictional barriers, and the collapse of bi-communal structures often would not allow justice. What doi you expect when Denktash was actively trying to create a climate of conflict, and sowing the seeds of civil war.

"If anything RoC police helped Eoka kill TCs and even took part in the killings."

This is just bs, historically contested, over generalized and an over simplified exaggeration of a complex historical issue. The reality is prosecutions did happen, although documentation is rare.

"Another similarity was RoC put in charge of the police force a known murderer, Yorgadjis. So has Israle."

This is unsubstantiated bs, and I bet you can not find any proof online to back up your claim.

"you can make the same claim about TRNC in the north but there is one difference. The North is not a recognised legal country."

This is the only thing accurate and right but unfortunately, you have tried to use this to excuse Turkish and TC crimes and accountability of them.

But what do you expect from a;

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Re: Turkey vs Israel

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 21, 2025 12:07 am

When arms shipments get pinched by the opponent mid-sea:

1. An Iranian shipment of arms heading for the Houthis ends up in Yemeni government hands...
https://s5.cdnstatic.space/wp-content/u ... yememm.mp4

2. A Turkish shipment of arms heading for the Somali Federal Armed Forces ends up in Somalia's autonomous Puntland hands...
https://avia.pro/sites/default/files/in ... 01_592.mp4
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