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[miltiades]

Peacemaker , I lost my sister to cancer recently , my wife who has been with me for over 40 years has been fighting cancer for just over 4 years. Never once did I waiver in my beliefs , never once did I blame something that does not exist , I put my faith in Science and all the wonderful doctors and nurses at the best cancer hospital in the world , The Royal Marsden. My strength comes through my love for my family , my love for Cyprus and for all my Cypriot compatriots , that includes religious ones as well . Im sure you are a very nice young man and I do not wish to offend you so I think we should leave this alone and move on to perhaps , FOOTBALL ?

[janea]

peace maker and "WHAT IS HAPPENINING HAS NOTHING TO DEAL WITH RELIGION"

Believe that there is much deal with the religion

[andri_cy]

All religions can be used for terrorism when you have fanatic close minded believers.

We should thank the USA and their allies that with their arrogant and unfair actions have created a perfectly fertile ground for terrorism to flourish.

Don't you think that America is encouraging terrorism?

Thats exactly what Piratis was saying I believe-is that USA's actions are encouraging terrorism. They may not be planning to encourage it but their actions cause a re-action.

[miltiades]

andri-cy , are you talking about the USA 's actions prior to 9/11 or after ? The response of America after 9/11 was justified and above all it was a natural reaction by a super power that woke up one morning and found it self under attack by the barbarians that call them selves jihadis .These obscene individuals are the reason why America responded as it did and will again respond to the treat that the civilized world faces from the fanatics of Iran and you and I will one day be grateful for that.
Long may the US remain a power to be reckoned with, the alternative is excruciatingly painful to contemplate.

[cypezokyli]

andri-cy , are you talking about the USA 's actions prior to 9/11 or after ?

both before and after.

The response of America after 9/11 was justified and above all it was a natural reaction by a super power that woke up one morning and found it self under attack by the barbarians that call them selves jihadis .

it strictly depends on which actions of america you are talking about.

i hope not this
http://www.enet.gr/online/online_text/c=111

These obscene individuals are the reason why America responded as it did and will again respond to the treat that the civilized world faces from the fanatics of Iran and you and I will one day be grateful for that.
Long may the US remain a power to be reckoned with, the alternative is excruciatingly painful to contemplate.

i hope that there comes no day that i will be "grateful" for that
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5030960.stm


dont get me wrong.
i was extremelly shocked when i visited ground zero. the people who were invloved in 9/11 were ofcource terrorists and fanatics.
but you should ask yourself why did they attack the USA and not Sweden. perhaps that way you ll find the answer

[miltiades]

Yes I can , because they hate America with every drop of blood in their body and if they had the opportunity they would take out not only America and Britain but the entire world so that they could achieve their sick dream of turning the entire world into a theocratic entity and with a return to the stone age where these sick perverts belong.Do I hate them ? Do I understand them ? Neither , they are not worth the effort. I watched , unfortunately, a video clip showing the brave warriors in action against a helpless human who they abducted in Iraq .What followed was beyond comprehension .No excuse for such barbaric actions. When the American troops commit atrocities they are brought to justice and are made to answer for their crimes. We are talking on this forum about a peaceful solution to our Cyprus problems , the few that have expressed hatred towards their fellow country men have mostly been criticised quite harshly. We in Cyprus , want to sort out our problems by negotiation and understanding the needs of all Cypriots. Let us hope that we carry on in a civilized way.

Cyperzokyli , do you know that the actions of these sick perverts in targeting innocents by suicides have never before in the history of world conflict occurred ? The Japanese Kamikazes targeted Allied Ships and other such military sites. These people for god-sake target people in Supermarkets , Restaurants , Cemeteries , Tourists on buses , weddings , in fact they target any one regardless of age , race , religion. No civilized INDIVIDUAL CAN POSSIBLY COMPARE THESE SADISTIC ACTS AND JUSTUFY THEM , REGARDLESS OF THE REASONS BEHIND SUCH ACTS.
Let me give you something to ponder over. If a Cypriot Greek , undertook such action against innocents in the occupied part of Cyprus and targeted women , children indiscriminately murdering them , and if such a barbaric act was to be justified because the perpetrator lost land , or other property , would you or any civilized human condone such an act. I bloody well wouldn't . In fact I would be so ashamed of my nation , the nation that I love so much that I would never set foot on it again.There is no moral justification to take the lives of people on an airplane , innocent people with families , mothers , fathers , how dare they .

[Kikapu]

Let me give you something to ponder over. If a Cypriot Greek , undertook such action against innocents in the occupied part of Cyprus and targeted women , children indiscriminately murdering them .

These things did happen in Cyprus, by Greeks and Turks, only not by suicide bombing, but bullets and knives. You like to draw the line as to which method of killing is acceptable to the world and which are not. I know neither is acceptable to you personally, but let me ask you a question anyway. If you had the choice to die by an guided missile fired by US Airforce jet or by an suicide nutcase bomber from Iraq, which would be acceptable to you? Point I'm trying to make is, both methods kills and at the end, you're dead. Would it not been better in the first place not to have to make a choice. US went to war in Iraq when they didn't have to. 9/11 had nothing to do with Saddam, and as a result we have given every excuse to the nutcases to come after everyone to create Iraq into a terror haven, and they will use every method they can as we do agaist them. The end result, we and them die, only the method of death separates us.

[cypezokyli]

imo what you fail to see is the following

1. alquida is not supported by the majority of muslims

2. as in all other conflicts , you can just blame one side. and if you compare the death caused by america with the death caused by al quida , you would be surprised

3. in wars, attrocities happen , and they happen irrespective of religion ethnicity, educational level , status, economical status etc. people when in war are animals. you can find hundreds of examples were muslims acted like animals. but it has nothing to do with with religion. bc if it had, then we wouldnt have experienced sebrenica, or rwanda or kongo or somalia, the holocaust, hiroshima etc etc.. all of them included attacks directed against civilians. innocent have always been victims of war since the beggining of time. thoukidides (even euripides) tell us all about it.


nevertheless i agree with you. nothing can justify the madrid attacks. the only thing that i believe we disagre , is that i fail to see the diference between George W. and B.Laden.

[miltiades]

Cypezokyli , I cant believe what I just READ .George Bush the democratically elected President of the most powerful nation on earth , and you can not see the difference between him and the disgusting barbarian rat
that wants to destroy civilization so that he can enter paradise and sit next to his idol?
Since when did G.Bush hijacked an aircraft full of innocent people and crashed it to smithereens killing all on board ? No Sir , the civilized world can not be compared to the sick and perverted perpetrators of the most atrocious crimes against humanity. The civilized world is led by America, and long may it continue to be led by it.
And yes , you also will be grateful one day that the world power was America , not Hitler's Germany , not Mao's China and most certainly no that pervert Osama BIN F.... LADEEN . If the western world is so much hated what the hell are all the third worldies doing in it.
LONG LIVE AMERICA , LONG MAY THE WESTERN WORLD LEAD THE WAY , BECAUSE THE ALTERNATIVE IS CALAMITY

[cypezokyli]

i agree with you. personally i find NY the most beautiful city in the world.
long live america. and the america people. but not the american foreing policy