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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 10:53 am

Yes sure.

We have our AWACS, and when there is something for us to gain, I am sure our Government will release all the information prosecutors need once our planes have left Syria forever. That may take a long while.

Do you honestly think the Coalition is going to argue with your journalists? Sorry but isn't going to happen. The important thing is, no one believes it was the coalition of our allies on the ground.

We don't talk to journalists or the people on the ground or offer them chocolates or milk to get them to say what we want.
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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:55 pm

Paphitis:
We have our AWACS, and when there is something for us to gain, I am sure our Government will release all the information prosecutors need once our planes have left Syria forever. That may take a long while.


I have no more than a layman’s understanding of AWAC’s but I am sure that if the US had evidence that Assad fired Sarin into Ghouta ..... they would present it; If they had evidence that it was Russians that bought down MH17 ...... they would present it; if they had evidence that the Russians attacked the UN Convoy ..... they would present it. But all the evidence of this latest accusation, that people like yourself present as ‘evidence’ is total rubbish. The only reason these idiots post this crap is because the US refuses to put its money where its mouth is, so their devotees try to do it for them!

So far the MH17 investigation has taken so long because the US will not give the enquiry team the evidence and the Ukraine’s refuse to release the RADAR/ATC recordings of the day. The Dutch refuse to tell lies or leave things out ..... Dutch people died that day and the relatives want to know WHO did it!

The Russians issued all their evidence within days including primary/secondary RADAR and satellite imaging of the area and anything the enquiry team has asked for and more. From the US ..... zilch! And you still expect an intelligent person, that can draw conclusions from the information available, to accept just your word for it when your word is not supported by evidence.
Do you honestly think the Coalition is going to argue with your journalists? Sorry but isn't going to happen. The important thing is, no one believes it was the coalition of our allies on the ground.


You don't argue with journalists, you answer their questions! Another reason to trust Lavrof ..... he does talk to journalists and answers their questions. I think many people are very sceptical about anything that comes from the coalition, especially when it is Kerry doing the explaining. Most people are more convinced it was carried out by the terrorists, than believe it was either the Russians or Assad. Quite simply .... CUI BONO ...... who stood to gain? Assad/Russia?..... I don’t think so. Terrorists? ........ Hmmmmmmmm. :roll:

Lavrof talks to journalists .........https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkB4sK3eb6c
We don't talk to journalists or the people on the ground or offer them chocolates or milk to get them to say what we want.


You don’t have to ......... you have paid the White Helmets around $62m, supplied them with equipment that is not available in Syria due to sanctions and the SOHR is paid an undisclosed amount from an undisclosed European government. The fact that whenever 'You' talk to anyone, you tend to talk down to them makes the stories issued by the US/NATO Alliance ..... seem more empty and hollow every time ..... for fact, they substitute propaganda! :x
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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 2:06 pm

The US will present it. We will present many things when the time is right but MANPAD launched Chemical Weapons is not something an AWACS is likely to detect.

The fact that the shells had Syrian Military markings is enough.

We will present all the evidence we have about the deliberate bombardments of schools, hospitals, civilians, and UN Aid Convoys as well as all the evidence we have about the use of Barrel Bombs, Cluster Bombs and Chlorine Gas when it suits us at a time when Assad will face his justice.

We got it all and the entire world knows it too and supports us.
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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:45 pm

Paphitis wrote:The US will present it. We will present many things when the time is right but MANPAD launched Chemical Weapons is not something an AWACS is likely to detect.

The fact that the shells had Syrian Military markings is enough.

We will present all the evidence we have about the deliberate bombardments of schools, hospitals, civilians, and UN Aid Convoys as well as all the evidence we have about the use of Barrel Bombs, Cluster Bombs and Chlorine Gas when it suits us at a time when Assad will face his justice.

We got it all and the entire world knows it too and supports us.


Well you should know, you're right their the top table with information that we mere mortals don't have access to. :roll: :lol:

If you really do think the 'Whole World' supports you I suggest you take a look at the readers comments after these pro US/Coalition articles in ANY MSM publication and you will see that the majority mock the claims that these publications print. Those that don't, waste their time accusing everyone else of being a Russian paid troll because they cannot prove their stories (Propaganda) with any supporting facts ! :roll:
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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Maximus » Sun Sep 25, 2016 3:59 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The US will present it. We will present many things when the time is right but MANPAD launched Chemical Weapons is not something an AWACS is likely to detect.

The fact that the shells had Syrian Military markings is enough.

We will present all the evidence we have about the deliberate bombardments of schools, hospitals, civilians, and UN Aid Convoys as well as all the evidence we have about the use of Barrel Bombs, Cluster Bombs and Chlorine Gas when it suits us at a time when Assad will face his justice.

We got it all and the entire world knows it too and supports us.


Well you should know, you're right their the top table with information that we mere mortals don't have access to. :roll: :lol:

If you really do think the 'Whole World' supports you I suggest you take a look at the readers comments after these pro US/Coalition articles in ANY MSM publication and you will see that the majority mock the claims that these publications print. Those that don't, waste their time accusing everyone else of being a Russian paid troll because they cannot prove their stories (Propaganda) with any supporting facts ! :roll:


I have noticed this too.

Similar stuff happens in the CY mail almost on a daily basis.

I have debated the pro's of democracy, human rights and resolving the Cyprus issue within the framework of the law but I have been accused of the most rediculous and unfounded things. From being a racist to a vile person. to being a rejectionist and uneducated. :lol:
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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 4:28 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The US will present it. We will present many things when the time is right but MANPAD launched Chemical Weapons is not something an AWACS is likely to detect.

The fact that the shells had Syrian Military markings is enough.

We will present all the evidence we have about the deliberate bombardments of schools, hospitals, civilians, and UN Aid Convoys as well as all the evidence we have about the use of Barrel Bombs, Cluster Bombs and Chlorine Gas when it suits us at a time when Assad will face his justice.

We got it all and the entire world knows it too and supports us.


Well you should know, you're right their the top table with information that we mere mortals don't have access to. :roll: :lol:

If you really do think the 'Whole World' supports you I suggest you take a look at the readers comments after these pro US/Coalition articles in ANY MSM publication and you will see that the majority mock the claims that these publications print. Those that don't, waste their time accusing everyone else of being a Russian paid troll because they cannot prove their stories (Propaganda) with any supporting facts ! :roll:


Yes indeed. You take a census of who supports who and write them down.

I think I can accurately claim the support of the entire developed world! I will leave you the luxury of scraping the bottom of the barrel with various tin pots!
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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:38 pm

Paphitis:

In your rather arrogant world, what you don’t seem to understand is that the rest of the civilised world and most of the uncivilised remainder are sick to the back teeth of the US trying to force themselves and their export version of the on every other country.

Most people are aware that the US is trying to ‘rule-the-world’ and can now see that plan falling apart. For the first time in decades a country has stood up to their arrogant supremacy.'American Dream'

They thought that Assad would be a push over and they would have been right, had it not been for President Putin. He was asked for help to repel these US mercenaries by Assad, the elected Pesident of Syria which he did and was very successful. Assad is now stronger than ever.

The US has funded these jihadis and mercenaries at all levels including Al-Qaidi and all the splinter groups that they broke up into. Over a hundred in Syria alone. Do you think people are really that stupid to believe there is such a thing as a ‘moderate’ terrorist? The US intent, even before the initial uprising was to get rid of Assad as he refused to dance to their tune, as did Ghadaffi and Saddam before him. He refused the let them put their pipelines across Syria!

So the US set a pack of rabid hounds upon the Syrian people ...... this is not and never has been what the US glibly refers to as a ‘civil war’, it is a foreign (US) sponsored invasion of a sovereign state. They have recruited anyone from anywhere ....just like you getting pilots .... if they know how to fire a gun that’s all they need to know. Teach them Arabic ..... “Alahu Ackbar!” ...... wind them up and off they go to get slaughtered.

The Russians and Assad have tried compliance with these sponsored ‘ceasefires’ maybe hoping that they would work but have now at last decided enough-is-enough and the gloves are off. The US has never once had any intention of a ceasefire ..... it is and always has been ....... ASSAD MUST GO!!!! I admire Putin for his quiet tolerance off the Americans and their partners.

The last ‘war’ the Yanks won was about 40 years ago in Grenada ..... where overwhelming military superiority destroyed that country ....... it was an amazing display of American arrogance. Since then every country they have interfered with has ended up as a monumental f**k up, that has killed or destroyed the lives of millions of men women and children, wiped out whole societies and left countries a smouldering wasteland. They have dropped 80m cluster bombs in Vietnam/Cambodia/Laos and chemical weapons both there and in Iraq. Now the same routine for Yemen using the Saudis and the Israeli's as their proxies. The American dream ? More like a bloody nightmare. :x

The Russians will now help Assad to reclaim Syria and the US will do little or nothing to stop them! They can’t because if they do the Russians (and maybe the Chinese) could Nuke them given the slightest excuse ..... and they know it.

You people should note the message .......... the world is turning its back on the mighty USA and NATO! The Syrian people do not want you or your mercenaries in their country. So pack your backs and sling your hook back to ‘The Land of the Free’ and sort that mess out before you start advising others ! :x
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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 5:54 pm

I'm not the arrogant one.

Our coalition is in Syria to do a job and we will do it and we will also see Assad in The Hague facing up to his war crimes unless Pootin cuts a deal with us which sees criminal Assad live the rest of his days in Russia or Iran amid tight security so we don't NAB him.

We are not the arrogant ones bombing UN Convoys or bombing innocent civilians with Chemical Weapons.

Assad is the arrogant one but there is only so far he can go before his luck runs out.

What is not possible is a military solution in Syria and we will make sure of that.
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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Robin Hood » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:00 pm

Paphitis wrote:I'm not the arrogant one.

Our coalition is in Syria to do a job and we will do it and we will also see Assad in The Hague facing up to his war crimes unless Pootin cuts a deal with us which sees criminal Assad live the rest of his days in Russia or Iran amid tight security so we don't NAB him.

We are not the arrogant ones bombing UN Convoys or bombing innocent civilians with Chemical Weapons.

Assad is the arrogant one but there is only so far he can go before his luck runs out.

What is not possible is a military solution in Syria and we will make sure of that.


You're not arrogant? Do you ever read your own posts? Go back to bed. In your delusional state ........you need all the sleep you can get. :lol: :lol:
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Re: Russia bomb UN AID Convoy

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 25, 2016 6:03 pm

Robin Hood wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I'm not the arrogant one.

Our coalition is in Syria to do a job and we will do it and we will also see Assad in The Hague facing up to his war crimes unless Pootin cuts a deal with us which sees criminal Assad live the rest of his days in Russia or Iran amid tight security so we don't NAB him.

We are not the arrogant ones bombing UN Convoys or bombing innocent civilians with Chemical Weapons.

Assad is the arrogant one but there is only so far he can go before his luck runs out.

What is not possible is a military solution in Syria and we will make sure of that.


You're not arrogant? Do you ever read your own posts? Go back to bed. In your delusional state ........you need all the sleep you can get. :lol: :lol:


Nothing arrogant about seeing justice being done and dished out towards criminals and seeing Sunnis get their rightful share in Syria.

You are arrogant for not wanting some accountability for war crimes committed by one of the biggest butchers in modern history.
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