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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:37 am

Get Real! wrote:Let me brighten this miserable thread...

ISIS killing Turkish dogs: :D

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/01/d ... 09620.html


I know it hurts old boy! It's ok!

You will be fine despite being stupid enough to think Pootin is your friend. Pootin is Pootin's friend and Turkey's now. They will screw you quicker than you are able to light your Foukou for an Australian lamb Souvla from Frenchy Carrefours!

Now, time to join the real world old boy!

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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:43 am

Tim Drayton wrote:PS - A shame that most people here can't see that Putin is not the defender of all things Orthodox and so the Greek Cypriots, but just looks after number one like anybody else, and if that means entering an alliance with their number one enemy, Erdoğan, that's exactly what he'll do (and I am sure he's really still an atheist anyway!).


Yeh he is an Atheist alright. Only goes to Church because he has to like a good Pseudo Orthodox and to appease all the old Russian Ladies and pussy whipped husbands. Trump also went to Church for the first time on his inauguration.

Oh yeh, pootin really cares about cyprus. Still waiting for the Russian Fleet to enter Kyrenia like Makarios believed would happen. Must be ships like the Kuzentsov. we should see the smoke from Paphos any day now after 43 years. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:46 am

Robin Hood wrote:Paphitis:

In spite of all your bravado, bullsh*t and claims of invincibility, what is really important in a conflict is results. So far Russian results in Syria are more than obvious to any following events but your coalition has very few notable achievements to show for its efforts after some four years of conflict. What you are in denial of, is that YOU and your coalition partners are competing for reputation with probably the finest military in the World today.

Does Russia have the best armed forces in the world? – The Saker

Russia's military forces are arguably the most effective in the world today because they possess an unmatched combination of a clearly defined and realistic mission, the ability to wage war at every level, and a strong military tradition.

So, if the purpose of a country’s armed forces is to achieve specific and political objectives, this directly implies that saying that some country’s armed forces can do anything, anywhere and at any time is nonsense. You cannot access a military outside a very specific set of circumstances:

1) Where: Space/geographical ..... 2) When: Time/duration ..... 3) What: political objective

Yet, what we see, especially in the USA, is a diametrically opposite approach. It goes something like this:

(Paphitis, he obviously reads your posts ……..) :roll: :lol: :lol:

We have the best trained, best equipped and best armed military on earth; no country can compete with our advanced stealth bombers, nuclear submarines, our pilots are the best trained on the planet, we have advanced network-centric warfare capabilities, global strike, space based reconnaissance and intelligence, we have aircraft carriers, our Delta Force can defeat any terrorist force, we spend more money training our special forces than any other country, we have more ships than any other nation, etc. etc. etc.”

http://theduran.com/russian-military-best-world/


Syria is a shamozzle. It is a country that will never see any stability for 20 years.

You want to see results, then look no further than Iraq and the Northern Syrian Coalition controlled third.

Coalition is well on the way to splitting Syria into pieces.

And there is zero chance of defeating ISIL in Syria. The good news is that ISIL will be on your side of the border not ours.
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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:50 am

Robin Hood wrote:Just watched President Trumps inauguration speech and he has said that the US will no longer impose their ideals upon other nations. :D

Looks like it’s time for the coalition to start packing ...... YOUR participation in Syria looks like it’s coming to an end Paphitis! Don’t feel YOU have lost the war in Syria YOU just never managed to achieve the peace. That accolade will go to Assad’s forces assisted by Russian air power and no doubt some sound advice from President Putin.

Maybe the US and Russia will now cooperate in degrading Daesh in both Iraq and Syria ....... we shall see! :roll:

If he is true to his word I think we are about to see a new US attitude to the rest of the World. 8)


There will never be any cooperation with the regime. Trump has gone awfully quiet about Russia too, so do you think he just got tuned in and can't say anything? I think so.

America's allies will NEVER join any US/ Russian alliance under any circumstances. The Australian and French Military hate the Russians a lot more than the American military does, and the US will need to contend with the repercussions of that.

Going with Russia would be akin to going with Hezbollah at Israel's expense.

No one will EVER let Trump do such a thing without dire consequences.
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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:53 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Peace, once Turkey is silenced!


And who is going to do that? pootin? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:55 am

Robin Hood wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Peace, once Turkey is silenced!


Turkey is an irrelevance ...... Russia will 'cooperate' with Turkey all the time it suits them. Then Erdogan will spit his dummy when he is put down by Putin and try to snuggle up to the US/EU again. Not difficult to work out that he will be about as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit! :lol: :lol:


And then Turkey shuts down the gas pipeline! God damn!

Pootin is sucking Turkish Cock at the same time as Erdo is sucking Pootin's dick. It's a Russo/Turko 69!
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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 28, 2017 1:58 am

miltiades wrote:Robin, you are making a wrong assumption mate ! Trump and the coalition will do as told by ....Paphitis :lol: :lol:
Incidentally, Poooootin has achieved bugger all in Syria :lol: :lol:


The Coalition is an alliance between many countries.

People need to make a decision, and for most intelligent and sane people, the decision is an easy one.

You have the Coalition OR Russia/Turkey/Iran/Hezbollah.

Your poster boy apart from being a war criminal, is sucking Turkish dicks!

I know it hurts old boy, to be betrayed like this. afterall, Pootin was suppose to liberate the Byzantine capital and all that. Oh yeh, there are so many Greek Cypriots still dreaming about this Russian inspired solution to all Greek and Orthodox woes around the world.

In a way, this is the best thing that has happened. I've been telling everyone for a very long time now.

Cyprus is a Western Country, member of the EU, ally to Israel and allies to most Coalition countries. That is OUR Church now.

Now, it is time that you and many others smartened up. The anti West hysteria will end here and now. cyprus is NOT a hostage to the past and does not belong to the bottom feeders (Russia or Turkey).

If we are an EU member, we are defacto NATO, not Russia. The EU and the USA are together, and that is the way it will always be.

Britain, France, Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece and USA are our friends, not Russia. We have had our disagreements in the past but we are not hostage to them. We move on, alongside our International partners (EU) and NATO as well as ANZUS very soon.
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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 28, 2017 2:18 am

Tim Drayton wrote:OK, the Kurdish people in north Syria, aided by the Kurdish movement in Turkey and taking advantage of the turmoil, managed to carve out self-proclaimed socialist Rojava, and the Assad regime, with its back up against the wall, accepted this de-facto situation and agreed to recognise the autonomy of this region although they stressed that they saw it as being a temporary expedient. If you wish to believe that the Assad regime genuinely favours the Kurdish region of the country having autonomy, then do so. My above argument is based on the premise that it doesn't. Anyway, the argument still holds sway for Turkey, which opposes Rojava. Also ironic for the Yanks to be backing an experiment in socialism, don't you think?


There will be nothing temporary about it.

In fact, I predict a split from Syria itself, not even some kind of BBF.

How this interests pootin is anyone's guess because i can't see any benefit to Syria or Russia, only negatives because the Americans now end up with a client and within 100 kms of Russia's bases. A win for USA but I don't know about the Russians. Kurds end up with all the resources too.

It could be the only way to prevent Coalition from directly annihilating the regime's forces. That is what would have happened.

it could still happen too. in fact, another major war will occur in the near future, certainly within Trump's term in office. one involving Iran and Hezbollah too.
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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:40 am

Trump's already talking about an American ground offensive to liberate Raqqa, isn't he? Many people thought Trump wouldn't go through with some of his zanier campaign promises, but it looks like they were wrong. The man is really as stupid as he sounds.
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Re: Russian and Turkish jets in joint operation over Syria

Postby Paphitis » Sat Jan 28, 2017 10:31 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Trump's already talking about an American ground offensive to liberate Raqqa, isn't he? Many people thought Trump wouldn't go through with some of his zanier campaign promises, but it looks like they were wrong. The man is really as stupid as he sounds.


With US troops? I haven't heard. as far as I am aware, the Coalition will offer Air Support, and perhaps some military advisers, intelligence officers and Special Forces but it won't be a comprehensive Ground assault with US or Coalition Troops. But with trump, it wouldn't surprise me that he will draw himself to the very dangerous scenario of engaging America directly into the Syrian Conflict. I would say Maddog will have something to say about that which seems to be Trumps saving grace. Maddog even saved trumps bacon by saying there wasn't any need to engage in Enhanced interrogation techniques. Stupid idiot (Trump) should have kept his mouth shut about that. I also agree with Enhanced Interrogation Techniques. It saves lives but it isn't something you talk about! :roll:

there is also a BIG difference between Enhanced Interrogation and torture which I take to mean something completely different to safe water boarding.

The Raqqa offensive has been on the cards since October last year when it was first announced. it has been delayed probably because of delays with the comprehensive defeat of ISIL in Mosul. I am thinking they didn't want to open another front competing for Coalition resources at the same time as Mosul.
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