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[miltiades]

I shall wait for Southerner to reply , then it will be MY turn.

[Eliko]

miltiades, why do you wish to wait for Southerner's response, do you not have an opinion of your own ?.

Could it be that you are 'Hedging your Bets' a bit, you probably have not even grasped the significance of two gentlemen discussing a matter without resorting to a torrent of abuse.

Keep your head down Sir, it might be safer...........................

[miltiades]

Here you go again Eliko , as they say a leopard never changes its spots .Insolence does not become you , but at least you can now see how right I was , a little while ago in expressing apprehension and adding a touch of mockery when characterising intelligent and well educated people as occasionally moronic , following the recent events starring six medical professionals. I'm not suggesting that you are moronic in any way , just misguided , misinformed and utterly absorbed with immense dislike of any thing Western , rather credulous I would say , in view of your family background. You would appear to me that . although ready to condemn a hideous crime , you would only do so conditionally.

[Eliko]

miltiades,miltiades,miltiades, Oh dear me Sir, do you actually DREAM about the 6 doctors ?, forget them, they are of no importance, WE are trying to discover what motivates them, what would YOU say is the root cause ?, please do not ramble away about 'Brainwashing', that viewpoint has become so tiresome, let us have a constructive and informed opinion, who knows, you may even have the answer, give it a go mate.

[Southerner]

Eliko, I think that raised passions on this forum are a direct result of the posts placed by QAMERSLAND especialy the title of his first post.
Islam the only Acceptable Religion in the site of Almighty! that was naturaly going to get peoples backs up.
Regarding Israel I agree regarding resentment, what I do think is that if their resentment was aimed less at Israel and more at their leaders things would have been different, it was obviously not in the interest of the leaders to let the people reap the rewards possible; especialy in the oil rich countries, just as we the working class in the UK in the early part of the 20th century were no better off than many of the countries that we colonised, in the 1920s my Wifes Grandfather worked 60 hours a week and crawled 3 miles to a coal face down a coal mine to hack out coal at a time when the UK ruled a third of the world. we are constanly called imperialists but actualy that was just 4% of the population.
Tolerance is what is required and that is something that did not exist in the Christian faith between three and five hundred years ago even in the US (Salem Witch Hunts) in the UK the Witchfinder General, in Spain the Inqisition.
Most western people see in Islam the way it is portrayed today as something dating back to those evil times.

[miltiades]

miltiades,miltiades,miltiades, Oh dear me Sir, do you actually DREAM about the 6 doctors ?, forget them, they are of no importance, WE are trying to discover what motivates them, what would YOU say is the root cause ?, please do not ramble away about 'Brainwashing', that viewpoint has become so tiresome, let us have a constructive and informed opinion, who knows, you may even have the answer, give it a go mate.

Here is the answer . Thoroughly motivated by a repugnant , unwavering dogma that demands of them the ultimate execution of an abominable repulsive barbaric act. Men from different nations united by an erroneous translation of an ideology that can only be described as decadent , inhumane and totaly barbaric. These educated savages are deprived of all signs of humanity in their effort to reach heavens and become martyrs. They are abominable , low down , sadistic , repugnant rotten to the core barbarians, may their God be proud of them , and may you continue to search for the reasons of such disgusting acts , reasons that are staring at you . !!

[Eliko]

miltiades, can you not see the difference in your responses and the responses of others?, how often must you repeat the same phrases over and over again, we have agreed on numerous occasions that we do not condone the actions of those who commit these crimes against humanity.

Nor do we condone the illegal attacks on Iraq perpetrated by the U.S.A. and others.

There is no point in continuously searching for new ways to insult and belittle those of a different culture, however misguided you may perceive their actions to be, THEY feel justified in taking those actions, THEY do not have to suffer the abuse you hurl at them, WE do, please stop it.

Do you have any sound opinion on the 'Root Causes' of the problem we are discussing ?, if you have then please make them known to us.

[miltiades]

I also despise paedophiles , child molesters , perverted murderers and all that is rotten. For the last time , I'm not interested in what turns such scum into murderers. Get it through your head these beasts ARE BEYOND REDEMPTION can you not see it .

[Eliko]

Southerner, I have often stated that the reasons behind much of the world's problems are the direct result of political chicanery, that does not make me any more aware than any other person, we ALL know that fact.

The strange thing is that we make jokes of it, we accept it as common knowledge and allow ourselves to be led by the nose, because there is nothing we can do about it.

Everybody knows politicians are capable of misleading us, they lie to us, they rob us, they disgrace our nation and send our young men into battle to kill for them, we are manipulated by them and used as the tools for their own ambitious objectives.

Where is the difference between US and the lesser aware members of other nations who are governed by their religious leaders ?.

In some ways, (depending on your perspective) you could well say that we are worse than them because we know better.

That is why I am reluctant to condemn others 'out of hand', that is why I seek to understand their motivation, that is why I would wish to know the 'Root Causes', who knows, we might be able to help in some way, God Willing.

Thank you for your views...........Best Wishes.

[Eliko]

miltiades, I think I have finally cottoned on to your game mate, 'YOUR HAVING A LAUGH !'.................................

You have got me in stitches at this end, how could I have been so daft as not to have recognized the fact before now ?, I am a serious man you see, it didn't occur to me until just now, BOY you sure sucked me in to that one.

CONGRATULATIONS, I think you are GREAT !!!!!!!!!!!!!