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Postby DT. » Thu Jul 05, 2007 12:59 pm

tessintrnc wrote:IF the so called civilised countries like the US and UK had NOT invaded those counties would we see the violence on our shores? Would ISLAM have suddenly reared up and attacked us for NO reason? You cant assume a blanket opinion that they are attacking the US and UK etc JUST BECAUSE we are not Moslem - that doesnt make any sense. Something has caused it and MY OPINION is that it is OUR actions in THEIR counties that have triggered this awful violence. I do not, and never have condoned it, what I do however is see WHY, some, I repeat SOME of these people believe that their actions are justified.
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I don't. Soon as you decide you're going to blow up a group of innocent civilians then you're the lowest form on earth.

If someone harmed a member of my family I would not go out and kill people who belong to the same group as the aggressor. I would hunt HIM down only.

Why should somoene in London going to work have to suffer for what W and Blair did? Why should someone living in Hiroshima have to suffer for the Emperors alliance?
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Postby tessintrnc » Thu Jul 05, 2007 1:13 pm

Exactly. So when the US/UK bomb a whole village to root out and destroy a FEW so called terrorists....................................???????? I totally agree with you - they are the lowest form on earth.
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:10 pm

tessintrnc wrote:IF the so called civilised countries like the US and UK had NOT invaded those counties would we see the violence on our shores? Would ISLAM have suddenly reared up and attacked us for NO reason? You cant assume a blanket opinion that they are attacking the US and UK etc JUST BECAUSE we are not Moslem - that doesnt make any sense. Something has caused it and MY OPINION is that it is OUR actions in THEIR counties that have triggered this awful violence. I do not, and never have condoned it, what I do however is see WHY, some, I repeat SOME of these people believe that their actions are justified.
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Which part of the majority of muslim Terrorists are not from Iraq or Afghanistan! don't you understand? will you now the name the other muslim countries that we are currently occupying. As I said in a previous reply; on your logic all Roman Catholics should kill muslims the world over for the Madrid train bombings.
Should we start killing muslims in the UK everytime one of them carries out another terrorist attack?. It would seem there is one law for muslims to hide behind and yet the don't have to observe it themselves.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Jul 05, 2007 2:28 pm

tessintrnc wrote:Exactly. So when the US/UK bomb a whole village to root out and destroy a FEW so called terrorists....................................???????? I totally agree with you - they are the lowest form on earth.


SO CALLED TERRORISTS ????????
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:14 pm

miltiades wrote:
tessintrnc wrote:Exactly. So when the US/UK bomb a whole village to root out and destroy a FEW so called terrorists....................................???????? I totally agree with you - they are the lowest form on earth.


SO CALLED TERRORISTS ????????

Dressed as women just like the coward muslim cleric fleeing the mosque in pakistan, and the terrorist who fled to pakistan dressed as a woman.
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:15 pm

Sorry double post
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Postby tessintrnc » Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:22 pm

As I said in a previous post, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Why were the French resistance groups hailed as Heros in the 2nd world war? They killed civilians when they blew trains up that were carrying weapons and Nazi troops, and I am sure that the IraqiS could ask -"whats the difference"? And like the Nazis before them - any attack on the occupying forces is met with double, triple, the amount of violence as retaliation.
With regards to Southerns comments, the thread is about Patriotism, I have been referring to the acts of violence linked to the occupation of their respective countries, with regards the other fanatics who are from y other Islamic ruled countries, they have their own agenda to which I am not privy, and again, I do NOT condone their actions - AT ALL. Tess
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:05 pm

tessintrnc wrote:As I said in a previous post, one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. Why were the French resistance groups hailed as Heros in the 2nd world war? They killed civilians when they blew trains up that were carrying weapons and Nazi troops, and I am sure that the IraqiS could ask -"whats the difference"? And like the Nazis before them - any attack on the occupying forces is met with double, triple, the amount of violence as retaliation.
With regards to Southerns comments, the thread is about Patriotism, I have been referring to the acts of violence linked to the occupation of their respective countries, with regards the other fanatics who are from y other Islamic ruled countries, they have their own agenda to which I am not privy, and again, I do NOT condone their actions - AT ALL. Tess
Can you tell me if you call those killing coalition forces patriots and those killings dozens of muslims everyday terrorists.
The democtaticly elected government in iraq have asked the coalition forces to stay for some time so how can these muderous people not be terrorists, just as the elected government of Afghanistan has asked the Nato forces to remain, so once again it is not the people of the country but insurgents who cause the trouble.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:16 pm

Southerner wrote:Can you tell me if you call those killing coalition forces patriots and those killings dozens of muslims everyday terrorists.
The democtaticly elected government in iraq have asked the coalition forces to stay for some time so how can these muderous people not be terrorists, just as the elected government of Afghanistan has asked the Nato forces to remain, so once again it is not the people of the country but insurgents who cause the trouble.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Give it up Southerner, your Zionist "understanding" of the Iraqi debacle is oozing from all over your body!

Btw, do something about your poor spelling or you won't even have any credibility in English!
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Postby miltiades » Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:17 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Southerner wrote:Can you tell me if you call those killing coalition forces patriots and those killings dozens of Muslims everyday terrorists.
The democratically elected government in Iraq have asked the coalition forces to stay for some time so how can these murderous people not be terrorists, just as the elected government of Afghanistan has asked the Nato forces to remain, so once again it is not the people of the country but insurgents who cause the trouble.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Give it up Southerner, your Zionist "understanding" of the Iraqi debacle is oozing from all over your body!

Btw, do something about your poor spelling or you won't even have any credibility in English!


Well , surprise surprise !! My understanding of the Iraqi situation is that a government elected by the people ( under immense pressure not to vote )
ha been battling against the fanatics who refuse to give peace a chance and instead embark upon disastrous suicide attacks targeting the innocent people of Iraq . I'm indeed puzzled as to why on earth should anyone support people who are hell bent on destroying their own country . In case you haven't taken note , there is a democratically elected government in Iraq and this democratically elected government wants the US to remain there until law and order has been achieved.

ps.What spelling errors ???
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