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Postby webbo » Thu Jun 12, 2008 1:57 pm

CBBB wrote:Leave the wife at home!



The reverse is also an option! :wink:

Bubbles x 8)
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Postby Oracle » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:06 pm

Buy a one way ticket to Cyprus, wherever you are.

Then just stay there .... 8)
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Postby CBBB » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:09 pm

Oracle,

I did and I have!
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Postby webbo » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:10 pm

Oracle wrote:Buy a one way ticket to Cyprus, wherever you are.

Then just stay there .... 8)



Don't moan about overcrowding then :lol: :lol:

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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:19 pm

How about eliminating toilet papers on the plane to save weight and just have a vacuum style suction, just like on the space station.

I can see some people actually enjoying this experience, therefore the waiting time for a vacant toilet will no doubt increase. :lol: :lol:

Also the toilets will be "gravity flushing", which means what comes out, goes right out of the plane, pronto, without having to wait to collect enough to dump it over the ocean as "blue ice". :lol:

In the future you will have to look out for more than just "bird droppings" from the sky while enjoying a cone of ice cream..!! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:20 pm

The main way to cut fuel costs is to optimise the aircraft's cruising level by taking into account the wind speeds at those levels. If you have high tail winds at high levels you climb to that level, throttle back to a low power setting and let the winds push you as much and for as long as possible. If the headwinds are high, it may be wise to select a lower cruising level where the head winds are generally weaker, increase power to increase speed which increases the consumption but reduces the time in those winds.

In light wind conditions, flying at a lower power settings and therefore at slower speeds also results in considerable savings, but it also increases turn around times and reduces aircraft utilisation. Therefore this can be a false economy.

There is also considerable commercial pressures placed on pilots these days to carry only the minimum amount of fuel in accordance with company's fuel policy. This means that when an aircraft lands at it's destination, it will only be carrying it's Variable and Fixed Reserves which equal to 10% of the Fuel required from A to B + 45 mins. This potentially will save millions as some pilots use to add a bit extra for the wife and kids. :lol:

I can tell you that a low budget airline in Australia is also considering removing all in flight magazines which reduces the aircraft's weight.
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Postby tessintrnc » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:23 pm

Paphitis wrote:The main way to cut fuel costs is to optimise the aircraft's cruising level by taking into account the wind speeds at those levels. If you have high tail winds at high levels you climb to that level, throttle back to a low power setting and let the winds push you as much and for as long as possible. If the headwinds are high, it may be wise to select a lower cruising level where the head winds are generally weaker, increase power to increase speed which increases the consumption but reduces the time in those winds.

In light wind conditions, flying at a lower power settings and therefore at slower speeds also results in considerable savings, but it also increases turn around times and reduces aircraft utilisation. Therefore this can be a false economy.


I was just about to say that too! :wink:
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:23 pm

Paphitis wrote:The main way to cut fuel costs is to optimise the aircraft's cruising level by taking into account the wind speeds at those levels. If you have high tail winds at high levels you climb to that level, throttle back to a low power setting and let the winds push you as much and for as long as possible. If the headwinds are high, it may be wise to select a lower cruising level where the head winds are generally weaker, increase power to increase speed which increases the consumption but reduces the time in those winds.

In light wind conditions, flying at a lower power settings and therefore at slower speeds also results in considerable savings, but it also increases turn around times and reduces aircraft utilisation. Therefore this can be a false economy.


Now you are being too technical for a lot of people Paphitis. I did say, that all things being equal, reduced weight will save fuel and money.

Now, lets see some creative ideas from you. :lol: :lol:
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Postby DT. » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:25 pm

attach a mast and sail on the plane.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jun 12, 2008 2:25 pm

tessintrnc wrote:
Paphitis wrote:The main way to cut fuel costs is to optimise the aircraft's cruising level by taking into account the wind speeds at those levels. If you have high tail winds at high levels you climb to that level, throttle back to a low power setting and let the winds push you as much and for as long as possible. If the headwinds are high, it may be wise to select a lower cruising level where the head winds are generally weaker, increase power to increase speed which increases the consumption but reduces the time in those winds.

In light wind conditions, flying at a lower power settings and therefore at slower speeds also results in considerable savings, but it also increases turn around times and reduces aircraft utilisation. Therefore this can be a false economy.


I was just about to say that too! :wink:


Now don't you start Tess. :lol: :lol:

You are all beginning to sound like the flight crew on "Starship Enterprise". :lol: :lol:
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