Kikapu wrote:So what you are saying is, that the plan I have given you is very beneficial to the TC's which some GC's may not like, which gives you everything that you have asked for. But this plan will not work, unless you also do your part and return 50% of the north back to the GC's. This is a "checks and balances", because if the Upper House seats were guaranteed by undemocratic means as you want, there would be no incentive for you to return any GC land back. This is the compromise that you need to make.!
Viewpoint wrote:What I am saying is that on face value your plan appears to give us a right in the upper house which if taken on face value will not be acceptable to the majority of GCs, those that accept it have seen the opportunity of getting 18% of the north back right away and the balance in power over a priod of calculated manipulation of the population balance in the Tc state in their favor therefore full power over the whole island reducing us to living in a GC state state run by GCs.
Let me just answer this point only from your post, because this goes to the heart of the whole plan I have given you.
Once again, you are making very contradictory comments here, which are, that if you gave the GC's their own land back, 50% of the north, then you will lose the control of the other 50% state's and Upper Houses power to the GC's over time. If you really believe that, then why are you accepting what may well be as much as 130,000 refugee GC's (40,000 destined for Verosa, but since that town is in ruins, they may choose to re-settle with the rest of the other 90,000 GC refugees in the 29% TC state instead, since they will find safety in numbers) in a TC state, who will be able to establish a stronghold on parts of the north state by setting up businesses and offering jobs to GC's from the southern state to move to the north. You are not only opening the door, but knocking down the barn door right off it's hinges.
Now, you know you are not going to get any restrictions on who can vote and who cannot in all the elections in the north, because the EU won't allow it. Neither putting a limit on the Freedom of Movement, and nor can you use the Malta case, because first of all, that provision was agreed with the EU before Malta joined because the restrictions are not against the Maltese, but EU member citizens. The limitations are not on Freedom of Movement, but rather it only requires that EU member citizens must obtain work permit from Malta before arriving, so that the Maltese jobs are protected for the Maltese and has no restrictions on any EU member citizens if they choose to move to live there, if they have no intentions of working in Malta. So please, don't bring up Malta again, because Cyprus has already agreed to all the rules set by the EU before becoming a member and will remain as such, even though my 5 year plan (will give soon) does provide certain protections to the TC's as long as the GC's voting age population remains below 75% of the TC's voting age population in the TC state. But with the potential 130,000 GC's already in the TC's 29% state, that threshold is almost there, thanks to your invitation. Within a very short time, the Upper House will become a toss-up, as well as start to lose control of the state power from day one, again, thanks to your invitation to allow 130,000 GC's into the north state.
It is all this problems that you can avoid by giving back another 10% (25%) of the north back to the GC's to satisfy the remaining 90,000 GC refugees. But we all know why you want to keep the 29% of the north, and it is not the extra 10% ( 25% of the "trnc") of land, but keeping additional 50% of the coastline of the north. This is what you will lose, that you don't want to lose, but by allowing 130,000 GC's into the 29% north to keep all of the north’s coastline, is what is going to coast you the Upper House seats and the state’s power from the TC's hands into the GC's hands. Even if you got an agreement from Christofias to guarantee the Upper House to the TC's, I would not accept it if I were you, because as soon as that deal is signed, wait and see what the 130,000 are going to do when they are denied to vote for the Upper House. They will shut down the TC state with protests, hold back paying taxes claiming "no taxation without representation", demand equal rights, take their cases to the EU courts for having their Human Rights violated and win, and make chants such as"Give me Freedom or Give me DEATH".!
That's enough to put on your plate for tonight. Think about all this, versus having almost no GC's in your 18-20% state. Sometimes having more of something is not always the best policy. Quality is better than quantity. Try to remember that when you start telling the rightful owners of the land in the north, that if they want their land back, they have to live with you. They may just take you up on your offer, and once they have moved and established themselves in the north, then they will invite their friends, cousins, neighbours, and all the retired pensioners to come and live in the lovely north, and after you have lost all the power, then watch the north hold a referendum to unite with the south to become a Unitary state.!
