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[boulio]

you want me to cut your ticket for turkey???

[humanist]

Kikapu my friend your not still on the BBF solution are ya? the TC's don't want that they have moved to a two State solution which means that they are fighting the Turkish battle for a Turkish State ib Cyprus because by the time they get that in 5o years time there will be no Turkish Cypriot or a descendant thereof in Cyprus. Turks from Turkey will rule whilst the TC population would have reached its extinction.

Good luck for trying though.

[Viewpoint]

you want me to cut your ticket for turkey???

Probably be the UK.

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu my friend your not still on the BBF solution are ya? the TC's don't want that they have moved to a two State solution which means that they are fighting the Turkish battle for a Turkish State ib Cyprus because by the time they get that in 5o years time there will be no Turkish Cypriot or a descendant thereof in Cyprus. Turks from Turkey will rule whilst the TC population would have reached its extinction.

Good luck for trying though.

Where are we TCs from humanist?

[humanist]

VP

Where are we TCs from humanist?

Well VP I could take a couple of options here and say may be outer space?

Yu personally are theoretically a Briton residing in Cyprus and that is based on the information you have provided previously on this forum that you were born in UK from TC parents.

or finally and more appropriately I would say that Turkish speaking Cypriots (and for the sake of this argument are those born in Cyprus prior to 1974 or those who have a Turkish speaking Leanage prior to 1974 also) are from the Republic of Cyprus.

[Viewpoint]

VP

Where are we TCs from humanist?

Well VP I could take a couple of options here and say may be outer space?

Yu personally are theoretically a Briton residing in Cyprus and that is based on the information you have provided previously on this forum that you were born in UK from TC parents.

or finally and more appropriately I would say that Turkish speaking Cypriots (and for the sake of this argument are those born in Cyprus prior to 1974 or those who have a Turkish speaking Leanage prior to 1974 also) are from the Republic of Cyprus.

My origins from over 400 years ago are from Turkey.

[humanist]

and your origin 2000 years before that are from apes .

[humanist]

actually jokes aside then what you are saying is that your a turk in which case you are an occupier of Cyprus so get the hell out and stop crying isolation

[Kikapu]

Wow have to start by thanking you for the above post it must have taken a great deal of time and thought, please dont be modest it will not suit you. I have read it and appreciate the contents but the division and mistrust is so deep rooted that I think TCs woudl have great diffulcty in accepting the majority of what you have put forward their views continue to harden the Ormans news (which has yet to be finalized and actioned by the Brits) being just another reason not to trust GCs. I personally will continue to support agreed division and vote against any new plan in a future referendum, this is my right as it is anyone elses but if the majority of TCs should be foolish enough to vote in favor then there is nothing I can do but go with it and if I do not like the new Cyprus I will pack up my bags and like you move elsewhere.

Settlement can only happen in Cyprus if it's going to be Democratic and respecting everyone's Human Rights. The EU will not have it any other way, so get use to it, or else, you will NOT get very much for your community at much later stage as Turkey will get desperate to join the EU. Play smart now and get the maximum you can now. No body said True Democracy was easy or fair at times, but it does also not mean the "kiss of death" when things don't go your way. Democratic politics landscape is much like the shifting Sand Dunes. It is constantly changing. Once decisions in Cyprus are based on political ideology and not on ethnic lines, you will sleep much better, I'm sure of it, and the only way to get to that stage, is to start with respecting Democratic and Human Rights from the beginning.

I've just added the word "NOT" to the above paragraph from the previous post I made as I somehow missed it the first time around, just so not to confuse the reader what was meant to be said in that sentence.

Now, to your above post.

Wow have to start by thanking you for the above post it must have taken a great deal of time and thought, please dont be modest it will not suit you.

No big deal. As long as you and anyone else who reads it /read it and understands where I stand and believe it to be a possible way to find a solution in Cyprus, then I'm happy, but thank you for your acknowledgement all the same. I couldn't have done it without you.!

I have read it and appreciate the contents but the division and mistrust is so deep rooted that I think TCs woudl have great diffulcty in accepting the majority of what you have put forward their views continue to harden the Ormans news (which has yet to be finalized and actioned by the Brits) being just another reason not to trust GCs.

Until a settlement is reached, why are you so surprised that the GC's will do all they can legally to support their cause. Are the TC's not doing the same by trying to get recognition at the same time the talks are going on.? It is a fair play, don't you think.? It's just that the GC's gains seems to be far greater than the TC's. Welcome to being a recognised state versus the unrecognised "trnc". This is why the TC's need to find a settlement to secure their future in Cyprus as Cypriots to benefit themselves, because the present situation in the north will only get worse with time for them.

I personally will continue to support agreed division and vote against any new plan in a future referendum, this is my right

You are not telling us anything differently than what we already know, but thanks for the confirmation all the same.!

but if the majority of TCs should be foolish enough to vote in favor then there is nothing I can do but go with it and if I do not like the new Cyprus I will pack up my bags and like you move elsewhere.

Nothing wrong with having a plan B if plan A does not work out for you or anyone else for that matter. What is very evident for me is, that the TC's will need to get on board with a fresh start with True Democracy to break loose from the "corrupted society" they have been force to live under by their corrupted leaders. It is never too late to have a new beginning with the right values and principles for the sake of their future in Cyprus.

[Viewpoint]

I like many other TCs will continue to support what we believe is right, we obviously will never see eye to eye and therefore have to admit that we can never agree a solution as you wish to impose what you believe is right what is not good for me or other TCs. I am prepared to take my chaces rather that become a minority in a GC state how much you try to delay the process this will be the end result, as much as I love TCs and the TRNC and it will break my heart I would rather live among Brits as a minority than GCs. You and your likes will never understand where I and people like me are coming from.