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[Hermes]

we are the indigenous people of this island and want to be more like the Scots, with our own area and administration....thats why we support a BBF with political equality.

You do know that an Englishman can move unhindered to Scotland, live in Scotland, buy property in Scotland, work in Scotland and vote in Scotland? That he is not restricted in doing so in any way - by numbers or in rights under the UK or EU law? You do know that a Scot is a citizen of the United Kingdom and there is no such thing as Scottish citizenship? You would not deny a Greek Cypriot such rights? Or treat him as a second-class citizen in his own country?

And please bear in mind that while the Scots are the indigenous people of Scotland, the Turkish Cypriots in the north of Cyprus currently reside there only because of the forced expulsion of the original inhabitants - the Greek Cypriots. Turkish Cypriots are clearly not the indigenous people of northern Cyprus. So please be careful how you make claims to your rights. These should not be at the expense of other people's justifiable rights.

[Oracle]

.. Jews are happy to return to Germany now because they feel perfectly safe...The German people have disowned and repudiated Hitler and his Nazi regime.. (

Have you disowned and repudiated Turkey who slaughtered GCs by the thousands and ethnically cleansed nearly a third of the GC population?

I was just pointing out one of the differences faced by the Jews in Germany and TCs in Cyprus,Oracle...My thoughts about the events of 74 are well known...Turkey was justified in the original intervention. As a guarantor of the independence of the Republic of Cyprus they had the right and duty to come in order to restore Cyprus's independence...They should have done it back in 1963...But,once they had stored the offically agreed government,as stipulated by the 1960 agreements they should have left...By staying they have become invaders...

So then do you disown and repudiate Turkey and demand its immediate and unconditional withdrawal so that trust and bridge-building measures can start, as they did upon the removal of the Nazis?

(BTW ... Turkey did try and invade in 1964 after they set-up excuses by attacking the Constitution. They bombed and shelled my village near Polis, and Napalmed the vicinity.)

[BirKibrisli]

.. Jews are happy to return to Germany now because they feel perfectly safe...The German people have disowned and repudiated Hitler and his Nazi regime.. (

Have you disowned and repudiated Turkey who slaughtered GCs by the thousands and ethnically cleansed nearly a third of the GC population?

I was just pointing out one of the differences faced by the Jews in Germany and TCs in Cyprus,Oracle...My thoughts about the events of 74 are well known...Turkey was justified in the original intervention. As a guarantor of the independence of the Republic of Cyprus they had the right and duty to come in order to restore Cyprus's independence...They should have done it back in 1963...But,once they had stored the offically agreed government,as stipulated by the 1960 agreements they should have left...By staying they have become invaders...

So then do you disown and repudiate Turkey and demand its immediate and unconditional withdrawal so that trust and bridge-building measures can start, as they did upon the removal of the Nazis?

(BTW ... Turkey did try and invade in 1964 after they set-up excuses by attacking the Constitution. They bombed and shelled my village near Polis, and Napalmed the vicinity.)

The German Jews did not return to Germany the day after the Nazi regime collapsed...They waited for decades to see what bridge-building measures would be put in place first...

I know the incident you are talking about...Again you are only telling half the story...Turkey bombed the koccina area because 500 poorly armed and misguided TC students(who had landed there from Turkey)were under seige by the GCs and in imminent danger of being massacred...3 of my cousins were amongst them...They had said their goodbyes and were awaiting the final GC assault...Having said that,I can imagine how terrfying it must've been for the civilians in the area who would have become casualties...I dont know how true it is,but there were stories at the time of convoys of GC civilians lining up on nearby hills to witness the massacre of the TCs...But tell me Oracle,did you ever stop and think why Turkey would ahve taken such an extreme measure???Did you ever ask people why the bombs fell from the sky??? And what was their explanation...I am truly curious about this point...

[Bananiot]

They were ... Turks, Birkibrisli. You could do whatever you liked with them.

[denizaksulu]

They were ... Turks, Birkibrisli. You could do whatever you liked with them.

Turkish Cypriot students.

[Bananiot]

They are all Turks Deniz, I haven't made a mistake.

[B25]

They are all Turks Deniz, I haven't made a mistake.

So Bir's 3 cousins (TCs) were there and Bana says they were turks and hasn't made a mistake, so someone has mucked up and telling porkies AGAIN!

The problem with you Bir, is you only see your side and critisize the GC for not understaning you, maybe if you looked at it from the otherside you would see why. So hypocracy springs to mind.

Don't take your reference from Bana, he is a very special outside case a random measurement, in statistics he would have been ignore as he would skew the results. But if he makes you feel better, fine, but your average GC doesn't think like him.

[Bananiot]

Of course they are all Turks B25. In the eyes of the nationalists all dogs belong to the same breed. However, is it just peculiar (to say the least) that the little fascist is lecturing Birkibrisli?

[B25]

Of course they are all Turks B25. In the eyes of the nationalists all dogs belong to the same breed. However, is it just peculiar (to say the least) that the little fascist is lecturing Birkibrisli?

I am neither little, nor a fascist, nor giving lectures, one of you were lying.

He claims TCs you claim Turks, not that can give ahoot, but get your lies straight before you spread them.

To me Birk, is just another TC trying to get things his way, but don't worry your little head, we know where you stand.

[Bananiot]

Absolutely! You are a big fascist, as big as they come. This is something you wrote in another thread in reply to a very politely written post by a foreign student in Cyprus:

You chose to study here, not try to get to stay under false pretences.

get you education and then apply for residency, don't complain when the authorities are trying to control their borders from people like you.

You want USA / UK, then go, but don't spread lies and BS.

Have a nice day.

Edit: For your and pathetic-baby-in-shit information, there are many post degree qualified GCs who do these menial jobs and they have come from the UK and they can speak Greek, so you don't have a leg to stand on. You know where the door is back to you 3rd world country a?

From all of us, who had to study abroad and work (illegally) at the same time in order to make ends meet, KEEP YOUR FASCIST HANDS OFF THESE PEOPLE!