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[miltiades]

My next "chapter" would have detailed the events that led to a 15 year old losing his virginity !!!!
It also looks as if the snow in the UK will not allow me to fly today , it was also snowing way back in December of 1961 when some ...evil woman deflowered a young innocent boy !

We are eagerly awaiting the next chapter,dear miltiades...

It is steaming hot ! All revealed soon , not suitable for juniors !
Oracle shut your eyes .

Maltese she was , met her at the Locarno in South London early December 1961.
She was much older than I, mid to late 20s smoked like a chimney and drunk like a fish. Asked to dance , couldnt believe my eyes , eagerly she said yes and up she came on to the dance floor where a jive was followed by a slow dance , Maria was not slow at all and was soon teaching me to dance slow very very slow !! She was a redhead and quite attractive if you ignored the nose and concentrated on her other assess , and large assets they were too. She was a waitress she told me , worked in the City somewhere and after having a drink or two at the bar we ended up on the upstairs area of the Locarno where most "couples" naturally ended up after getting to know each other on the dance floor as one does.
She lived in Brixton the top end before entering Streatham .Maria was very eager to please , asked me how old I was and I told her I was 18 , I looked older so she never doubted me.
As the time approached when the dance hall would close I gather enough courage to ask if I could take her home, of course she replied in earnest , I begun to palpitate and perspire a great deal , I wondered if my moment of truth had arrived !!!

[Piratis]

I have been saying this all along, ever since I wrote my first post. If these fanatics cannot see eye to eye with people like Birkibrisli how in heaven are they helping Cyprus? In reality they hate Cyprus and they will do anything they can to destroy it. These people wanted to annihilate the Turkish Cypriot community in the early 60's in order to create a pure Greek state that would eventually unite with Greece. Just like the Greek army did to all minorities in northern Greece during the 1912 - 1914 wars. Hundreds of villages were erased to the ground by the victorious Greek army. The Turkish army did exactly the same thing during 1925 - 1923 when modern Turkey was established. That was the time when pure nation-states were formed.

If we were given half a chance, we would have done the same to the Turkish Cypriots. These people that shout about democracy and human rights today, turned a deaf year when others were suffering and this alone does not legitimise them to talk about these sacred values.

It is the TCs who wanted to annihilate us from half of our island since the 50s when they first started their partition cause demanding that Greek Cypriots should be annihilated from half of their island, a plan which they put into action in 1974. These are the facts not imaginary scenarios like those you told us.

Rhodes united with Greece in 1947. The Turkish minority there increased by 20% since then.

Imbros and Tenedos are Greek islands which had a majority of Greeks before they came under Turkish rule. Almost all Greeks are now exterminated from those islands.

[Bananiot]

So Piratis, you are saying that Turkish state nationalism is worse than Greek state nationalism. This is where your logic has led you, if you can understand what I mean.

You keep writing that the TC's started everything, unprovoked in 1958. My research on this subject (who started first) has come up with the info that the first Cypriots that became refugees were the Turkish Cypriot inhabitants of Κιοσογλούθκια - Kiosoglouthkia - Limassol in 1958. Of course, with rational people, who started first is not important. Even if the Turkish nationalists stirred things, we should have not replied by targeting all Turkish Cypriots. I remind Piratis and all nationalists that even if we were provoked to retaliate, we had no right, moral or other, to murder ordinary Turkish Cypriots just because they were Turkish. Had we targeted TMT in order to avoid partition and save the RoC, we would have the support of the masses of the Turkish Cypriot community. I, however, should stop saying "we" and use the more appropriate "you" from now on.

You chose to attack the ordinary Turkish Cypriot because what TMT was doing was serving your own interests too. You thought that the only way to achieve enosis was through the annihilation of the TC community (for it could never accept enosis) and thus the spate of murders by your type on both sides escalated all the time. Dragging sick people out of hospital beds and murdering them could only widen the gap between the two communities and light up feelings of hatred. That was good for the nationalists of both sides but eventually one side only could be declared the winners.

Turkey invaded in 1974 and we, as well as you, lost everything. Now, Piratis, you have remembered democracy and human rights and you expose yourself as a pioneer in the struggle for these ideals. Why, may I ask? The answer is easy. Because you do not want the kind of solution, the only solution that can save the day for us. You dream of european solution and you elevate yourself to a level of a noble, heroic democracy fighter. That is absolute rubbish because democracy and human rights for all is what we all want and your effort to monopolise this is indicative of your nature.

Cyprus can only survive if we can agree for a solution that can be accepted at this instance, even if it has shortcomings. The only solution that can be agreed is one based on BBF. This will be supported by all international organisations. If we can not do this, we will head straight to partition and only fools cannot see the detrimental effects this will have on Cyprus.

[Piratis]

I read about this "Κιοσογλούθκια" thing yesterday in some blog and now it is a result of Bananiot's research already Maybe you know the date of the event Bananiot (and some evidence to back your claims) or you don't know either?

Bananiot, I never did any crime against anybody, neither I support any. So you can try all you want to associate me with those events but you can't. I never said that the attacks of TMT against innocent GCs justified the attacks against innocent TCs. I am simply stating the fact that the TCs are the ones who started the inter-communal conflict because some TCs (and you) are trying to blame that conflict on us and in this way excuse their demands for gains on our expense.

I have said many times in this forum that I do not support collective punishments. Unfortunately, contrary to what you say here, you do support such collective punishment against 100s of thousands of innocent Cypriot people who have to be punished just because they are GC, in the same way our ancestors were oppressed by the Turks for centuries just because they were Christian!

Today 2/3rd of Cyprus are free and 1/3rd of Cyprus is illegally occupied. A solution can only be one that liberates the occupied part, and not one where we legalize the Turkish occupation of the north and we give to Turkey the control of the whole island.

[Svetlana]

This is the most diverse thread I have seen: it starts of with a Dinner party and ends up with Cyprob and Milti getting his leg over...

[Bananiot]

Absolutely Svetlana. But, just to set Piratis's mind to rest. The blog he read probably belongs to my friend Constantina Zanou, a Greek literature teacher, daughter of Christos Zanou, ex teacher, actor and play writer. If he only read about it yesterday, that is fine. He still has a lot to learn but by the way he dismissed this info I presume he does not want to learn, just in case his stereotype world is disturbed.

[miltiades]

This is the most diverse thread I have seen: it starts of with a Dinner party and ends up with Cyprob and Milti getting his leg over...

Still waiting to get my leg over !!

[Piratis]

Absolutely Svetlana. But, just to set Piratis's mind to rest. The blog he read probably belongs to my friend Constantina Zanou, a Greek literature teacher, daughter of Christos Zanou, ex teacher, actor and play writer. If he only read about it yesterday, that is fine. He still has a lot to learn but by the way he dismissed this info I presume he does not want to learn, just in case his stereotype world is disturbed.

So only this Zanou knows about this so significant event? Very strange don't you think? No other reference anywhere. And nobody can even say when in 1958 this event supposedly happened. If you are so well informed then why don't you tell me the date Bananiot?

[B25]

Absolutely Svetlana. But, just to set Piratis's mind to rest. The blog he read probably belongs to my friend Constantina Zanou, a Greek literature teacher, daughter of Christos Zanou, ex teacher, actor and play writer. If he only read about it yesterday, that is fine. He still has a lot to learn but by the way he dismissed this info I presume he does not want to learn, just in case his stereotype world is disturbed.

Well, I think that says it all, they can't possibly be facsists but Bananas friends, obviously think like you do. And who gives a rats if he is an actor, play writer or whatever else does that make tis a CREDIBLE source?

Bugger off Banana, you have said your dirty piece, Piratis is right and there are a damn sight lot more of him than you.

Hade re pou jiame!

[Bananiot]

Absolutely rubbish, as per normal. I suggest you lot begin to read if you really care to learn about the recent history of this island. You can start with «Ηχώ από τα παλιά, η Τουρκοκυπριακή Κοινότητα και η κληρονομιά της» "echo of the past, the Turkish Cypriot Community and its heresy". Its a book written by Turkish Cypriot brothers Ozay and Seltzuk Akif from Limassol and the publication of which was sponsored, among else, by the Ministry of Education of the RoC. Here you will find about this mystery place called Kkiosoglouthkia, which does not exist only in the sick mind of all the nationalists