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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:29 pm

Cap wrote:He left 3 hungry children and a widow without a future and opted for 72 young virgins...

A bit cowardly don't you think? Took the perverted easy way out.
In fact doesn't that count as adultery? Poor guy's in for a stoning when he reaches the proverbial heavens. Allah's wrath will be upon him..

Now tell me about the bravery of these two...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/se ... terror.htm

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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:30 pm

bsharpish wrote:This person almost certainly wished to harm innocent shoppers in an extremely tolerant, free thinking and open minded country- he did not "jump on a plane" and go to fight soldiers in Iraq,Palestine or Afghanistan instead he chose to "murder his way to paradise" these are the action of a deranged terrorist with radical views on Islam -

Radical Islamic views?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/se ... terror.htm

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Postby Get Real! » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:33 pm

Linichka wrote:It is a popular misconception that the majority of suicide bombers are impoverished, hopeless people who trade deadend lives to exit in a blaze of "glory" and enter paradise.

How right you are... they are British, Americans, and Israelis...

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/se ... terror.htm

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Postby bsharpish » Mon Dec 13, 2010 8:35 pm

The complication comes when you consider that the " Big books of bullshit" from all faiths are contradictory.....

On one hand peace and love on the other death and murder

Just for the christians among us -

http://www.evilbible.com/Murder.htm

all of the "big 3" mid eastern origin religions have the same potential for mayhem.

The religions in themselves are not the issue .... its the knobheads who twist them to suit other agenda's and in the case of islam the unfortunate fact that its "age of enlightenment" got stamped on by crusaders
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Postby Me Ed » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:03 pm

Christians, in this day and age, do not kill innocents the name of God, where as the islamists do.

Remember how many RC priests have been slaughtered in Turkey recently.
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Postby bsharpish » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:16 pm

I'm not an apologist for Islam...............

In fact I personally believe that Islam and Western "society" are incompatible and would like to see a restriction on its promotion and export via immigration.

That said.............

MANY professed christians are killing ,not in the name of god,rather, in the name of Government with ordained priests in tow and at the end of the day a true follower of christ would not .

The hypocrisy of organised religion knows no bounds.
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Postby bsharpish » Mon Dec 13, 2010 9:50 pm

Get Real! wrote:
bsharpish wrote:This person almost certainly wished to harm innocent shoppers in an extremely tolerant, free thinking and open minded country- he did not "jump on a plane" and go to fight soldiers in Iraq,Palestine or Afghanistan instead he chose to "murder his way to paradise" these are the action of a deranged terrorist with radical views on Islam -

Radical Islamic views?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/se ... terror.htm

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You may also believe that clinton , bush et al are all satan worshippers and if you look on the web...... Its true :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

http://wonkette.com/382658/hillary-clin ... hips-satan

now once you've absorbed that highly credible fact you can return to venerating a tin of corned beef.

BTW .... I have the answers for your work tomorrow

2+2..... wait for it ...................... equals 4

You may jump a level at school with that information but don't get carried away - you only have 10 fingers and 10 toes and the reptile people will whisk you away if you prove you can count past 20 :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:11 pm

Schnauzer wrote:
Cap wrote:Not complicated at all.
Killing infidels is an Islamic duty.

Nothing is taken out of context.
You simply can't sugarcoat clear, direct teachings to commit murder.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/skm60428.htm



If it be the 'Duty' to kill infidels (a very controversial subject) for the followers of Islam, surely there would be little need to 'Convert' so many to the faith (known to be the fastest growing of ALL religious beliefs).

As to 'Direct Teaching' to commit murder, how does one justify the 'Murderous Activities' of both the Christian and Jewish societies which preach 'Peace' yet slaughter more than ANY 'Dutiful Islamist' ?.

Or would you consider the actions of those NOT of Islam, to be operating pre-emptively?. :wink:


I am of the opinion that the forum will benefit from any examples of this that you might produce. :lol:
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Postby Schnauzer » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:32 pm

Me Ed wrote:Christians, in this day and age, do not kill innocents the name of God, where as the islamists do.

Remember how many RC priests have been slaughtered in Turkey recently.



Before engaging in battle, the 'Padre' is available for to those who are about to 'Carry out their duties' to Queen and Country.

Many innocents are slaughtered in the process and such deaths have been been recently proven.

It's not ALL bad news however, the Military have terms for such deaths, 'Collateral Damage', 'Friendly Fire' and several others which they feel justifies the taking of life "In the name of God".

As to the recent slaughter of the RC priests, I think you will find that the tenets of 'Islam' provide adequately for those who falsely adorn the robes of righteousness OR, practise the habit of groping under the 'Cassocks' of vulnerable young choir-boys.

Christians advocate the 'Slapping of hands' for such crimes.

Islamists favour 'Beheading', as a more effective punishment AND warning, even though the innocent may pay for the crimes of the guilty in some cases.

Which seems to negate your first and explain your second point. :wink:
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Re: Beyond OUR understanding.

Postby Filitsa » Mon Dec 13, 2010 10:40 pm

Schnauzer wrote:The recent actions of Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly have once again stirred the imaginations of those who have read of them and comment on the horror of them.

Whether or not the actions were either a protest about the involvement of the Swedish military forces in Afghanistan (or elsewhere) or a response to the considered insult of the 'Prophet' by an inconsiderate cartoonist, is a moot point.

What IS certain, is that the actions WERE taken by a most unlikely perpetrator. (imho)

What would compel an intelligent 29 year old family man, father of three small children, studying for a Bsc degree at the University of Bedfordshire, with his whole future before him, to commit to the actions he took?.

The terms 'Brainwashing' and 'Fanaticism' are usually employed when trying to determine the motivations behind incidents such as this, it is very easy to adopt such descriptive opinions when they are so rife in the 'Media' BUT, if one analyses the background of THIS particular perpetrator, it may well reveal that WE (those in condemnation) are actually the 'Brainwashed'.

Not an easy title to admit to I know, the death and destruction is awful and unacceptable and I am not condoning it by any means........ I merely suggest, as in the title of this thread that the 'Motives' may be beyond OUR understanding.
One does not have to be a 'Fanatic' to object to what one may perceive to be 'Unjust'.

Perhaps members might have views which may enlighten us. :wink:


Hmmm, Shnauzer, do you think the motives are inherently beyond our understanding, or do you think we are inherently incapable of understanding the motives?
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