miltiades wrote:Most people ....agree with your views ??
You are hallucinating boy, everyone on this forum considers you a fucking idiot , give or take one or two.
You have resolutely proved your immaturity and inability to separate facts from fiction.
Turkey is bombing the Kurds daily and you just dismiss it as irrelevant, yet YOUR troops are protecting YOUR allies.
From now on I shall refer to you as General WEWE, as you are obviously so immersed in your war games you lost all sense of direction. When are you ....flying your next plane, General.
What a fuckingPlonker !!
Yes most people agree with my views. Anyone who thinks it's a bright idea for any Coalition Aircraft or NATO Aircraft to engage the Turkish Military in any way has lost it big time.
Coalition and/or NATO Aircraft can not engage Turkey. It would be handing over the entire tourta to Pootin as he is trying to drive a wedge between Turkey and NATO and the Russians will exploit it and who knows what will happen. Everything becomes a huge lottery and NATO will be in turmoil because Coalition and/or NATO aircraft had engaged Turkey which is a member State of NATO and covered by Treaty.
I personally, like any other Cypriot, do not like Turkey at all. Would love to see the above, but the reality is that it will not happen and another reality is that it goes against Greek and Cypriot interests for Turkey to leave the fold or withdraw from NATO and become close to Russia and isolated from the EU. It would be a disaster because no matter what we say about Turkey, the EU and NATO are our only means of keeping them under a little bit of control. They are unable to do what they want and as such there is better security for all of us when Turkey is in NATO. If it isn't, then they could one day do anything and there is NOTHING the USA or its allies can do about it without military intervention.
I never said anything about troops. The Coalition if anything only has perhaps a few hundred troops, scouts and Special Forces. The SAS have been known to operate with the Kurds. These are troops but they are not the kind of troops you talk about and they are very few in number. They are not the kind of troops that will fight a conventional war.
Our presence is mainly in the skies. The Air Superiority in the skies is a very important deterrent for Kurds against Turkey. The TAF will not fly anytime Coalition planes are in the air. It is too dangerous for them. And Coalition aircraft probably do chase them. They just will not shoot at them. There is no way JSOC (Joint Special Operations Command) would approve that kind of engagement. JSOC comprises every single Coalition member, including Australia, UK, France, Canada, UAE, Jordan, Denmark, Belgium and so many more). It isn't just the USA.
One time when the SAS were deployed to an area in Afghanistan, the local IMAM and some religious fanatics were stoning a 14 year old girl. The Australian SAS commander wanted to use a sniper to kill the IMAM (and save the girl) and the sniper was already set up in position. They call the JSOC with Sat Phone asking to "go green" or to basically get permission to engage and the JSOC did not approve. JSOC is a panel comprising very senior Officers of each military member or country. They discuss the pros and cons and they basically vote. They also discuss whether their actions are legal or go against The Geneva Convention. They record every single move. The USA chairs the committee yes, but the USA isn't free to do what it wants and drag every other country into a situation or commit a war crime. The above engagement from the SAS could potentially have been a War Crime. As much as our boys wanted to "go green", the guys at the top did not approve the action and sadly, the poor girl was stoned to death. The only reason I know all of the above is because of a mate.
It's the same situation in Syria. Firing on the Turkish military has not and is unlikely to be approved by these countries, as Turkey is a NATO member. It would be a massive gamble for them, and no one knows for sure how it will pan out. It is likely to make things much worse and not help the Kurds at all. The possibility that Russia is trying to drive a huge wedge within their NATO ranks would also not be lost on them. They would discuss all the permutations. That is why they are paid the very big bucks. These guys also advise and brief their relevant Governments. Each Government is briefed DAILY. Sometimes even hourly. JSOC is the Coalition's Situation Room. They brief their political leaders who of course also have an input and probably even the final say. Every country is represented in JSOC. Every one. Each Head of State also have their own "Situation Room" at home where information is disseminated to them.
Rex Tillerson also has meetings with Erdogan next week. This is where everything will be discussed and there are many ways in which the USA can pressure Turkey, and if necessary even punish them for their recalcitrance and for being uncooperative. This is the best medium to do these thing because they are done behind closed doors and it gives Erdogan some latitude and ability in order to save face on the home front. The Coalition and the USA would NOT be interested in embarrassing Turkey. They know that it would not turn our out to be very good because Erdogan they know is a wildcard, much like pootin is.
VLAKA! 
