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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 19, 2018 3:39 am

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Apr 19, 2018 7:12 am

Independent Journalist Finds No Evidence of Chemical Weapon Attack In Douma - Video

Watch - One America News Network

Pearson Sharp visited the war-torn town of Douma outside the capital of Damascus, looking for evidence of a chemical attack. However, residents there deny the claims of an attack, and say it was staged to help the rebels escape.

There have been no independent confirmations that the bombed sites had any connection to chemical weapons.
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http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49250.htm[/url]


This is not the only journalist that has been there and talked to those on the ground. The real sequence of events is beginning to come out. So, rather than Trumps, May and Microns assurance that evidence via social media is sufficient cause, growing evidence, and the reality of the situation in Douma does not support their claims.

They are therefore clearly guilty of the ultimate war crime ...... starting a war against a sovereign state without cause.

Also .......
Western Media Cover Tracks of Trump, May and Macron's War Crime in Syria -By Finian Cunningham

With astounding double-think, the US and Britain accuse Russia of "tampering" with the alleged chemical-weapon attack site in Syria's Douma – just days after the US, UK and France barraged the county with over 100 missiles.

If anyone is guilty of tampering with the alleged crime scene, it is the NATO trio who rushed to bomb Syria just as inspectors belonging to the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) arrived in Syria – invited there by the Syrian and Russian governments.

The frenzied Western media campaign to find Syria and Russia guilty of a war crime involving alleged chemical weapons is further highlighted by the reporting this week by award-winning British journalist Robert Fisk.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49246.htm


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Syria’s Victory – The Failed Attack by War Criminals Trump, May and Macron - By Peter Koenig

April 14, 2018 – hours before the Organization for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW), the UN chemical weapons watch dog – was to arrive in Damascus to investigate the alleged poison gas attacks in Douma – with horrifying false claims of casualties, mostly women and children – Trump, May and Macron launched an atrocious attack with 103 missiles on three or four Syrian sites which these criminals claim, the Syrian army was manufacturing chemical weapons, including Sarin and other poison gas, which then, at the order of President Assad, they used to kill their own people. As attested and regularly supervised by OPCW, Syria is free of chemical weapons since 2013.

The question begs: Why before the OPCW could verify the claim of a nerve gas attack? – The answer is simple, because there was no nerve gas attack. In fact, there was no attack at all. It was all fake and staged. The OPCW would have found out – and killed any false justification to assault Syria. That’s why.

That President Assad murders his own people, is, of course, a ridiculous claim, making absolutely no sense. Having reconquered Ghouta and Douma from the terrorists, i.e. from the US, UK and French proxies – and winning the foreign imposed war, why would anyone poison their compatriots, mostly women and children. Besides, as proven by Russian soldiers who were immediately after the alleged attack on site, there was no attack, there were no signs of an attack – a fact corroborated by many people questioned in the street, none of them witnessed any attack, chemical or otherwise.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49242.htm
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Re: The war against Syria

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Re: The war against Syria

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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Apr 23, 2018 6:47 pm

Not just about the White Helmets but about what really happened in Aleppo and is happening now in Ghouta. As she points out the MSM was all up in arms when Assad and the Russians were taking Aleppo and also Ghouta, but once Aleppo was liberated they stopped reporting! It is much about how Syrians feel about Syria and Assad as it affects their lives. It is quite a long video (40 minutes) but the lady is passionately involved in the countr, has been there several times and actually in the war zones. Her accent is a bit heavy and she talks fast .....but she is understandable .... and nice to look at! :roll:

Video: Carla Ortiz Debunks the Alleged “Humanitarian Mandate” of the “White Helmets” in Syria. They Work Hand in Glove with Al Qaeda By Carla Ortiz and Jimmy Dore

Bolivian actress Carla Ortiz debunks the humanitarian nature of White Helmets in Syria
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The non-profit organization is lauded by the corporate media for their unwavering efforts and determination to help Syrian civilians amid the ongoing crisis. But there is more than meets the eye.

Watch Carla Ortiz’s interview with Jimmy Dore below.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/video-carla-ortiz-debunks-the-alleged-humanitarian-mandate-of-the-white-helmets-in-syria/5637352
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Tue Apr 24, 2018 12:20 am



Obama said that ISIL must go.

As for the accusation that the CIA is somehow responsible for the Syian War - that is a big falsehood. The CIA operates in all countries. That is their job. The NSA operates in most countries too (it operates in Cyprus too). And of course it would be subversive in Assad's case and also for others like Iran as well.

What they did not do is start the Syrian War. They have no way of doing that. The Syrian War was started by Assad.

In the early days, Obama did say that Assad must go. And it is true. But the problem with Obama, that is where it all ended. he did not have a plan, or the will to intervene in Syria or to do anything to stop the war. He did nothing.

The Coalition only entered the War in 2015, and that was only limited to combating ISIL and nothing further. In the end, they achieved that objective, but their indecisiveness, resulted in other issues, including an emboldened Russia which took the opportunity to intervene.

There was no collaboration at all between Saudi Arabia and the United States with ISIL as some of you insinuate.

Saudi Arabia was however involved with the FSA, and the Coalition in the early days was very unsure about them too. But in the end, they started helping them in order for them to survive as an opposition and in order to attempt to attain a comprehensive peace settlement.

The fact that this has failed is a failure for all Syria, and it is something Syria will continue to pay for indefinitely. Syria will never be the same, or recover to anything more than an International Pariah State with strict sanctions.

This war will not end. In fact it is only just starting with Israel. That is the other thing that needs to be considered. Israel will never accept Hezbollah or Iran on its border and it is willing to wage war and even invade Syria over it.

This is the reason why a peace treaty is essential.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Robin Hood » Tue Apr 24, 2018 6:18 am

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Obama said that ISIL must go.

As for the accusation that the CIA is somehow responsible for the Syian War - that is a big falsehood. The CIA operates in all countries. That is their job. The NSA operates in most countries too (it operates in Cyprus too). And of course it would be subversive in Assad's case and also for others like Iran as well.

What they did not do is start the Syrian War. They have no way of doing that. The Syrian War was started by Assad.

In the early days, Obama did say that Assad must go. And it is true. But the problem with Obama, that is where it all ended. he did not have a plan, or the will to intervene in Syria or to do anything to stop the war. He did nothing.

The Coalition only entered the War in 2015, and that was only limited to combating ISIL and nothing further. In the end, they achieved that objective, but their indecisiveness, resulted in other issues, including an emboldened Russia which took the opportunity to intervene.

There was no collaboration at all between Saudi Arabia and the United States with ISIL as some of you insinuate.

Saudi Arabia was however involved with the FSA, and the Coalition in the early days was very unsure about them too. But in the end, they started helping them in order for them to survive as an opposition and in order to attempt to attain a comprehensive peace settlement.

The fact that this has failed is a failure for all Syria, and it is something Syria will continue to pay for indefinitely. Syria will never be the same, or recover to anything more than an International Pariah State with strict sanctions.

This war will not end. In fact it is only just starting with Israel. That is the other thing that needs to be considered. Israel will never accept Hezbollah or Iran on its border and it is willing to wage war and even invade Syria over it.

This is the reason why a peace treaty is essential.


Before expressing your opinion maybe you should broaden your view and apply a bit of critical thinking ......... instead of just repeating what you read in the headlines of the MSM. You will find this is packed with definitive proof that the US has been stirring it up in Syria for years as they have in every other country in the region.

Read this book and then you can express your views from a position of being in possession of facts and detailed research. You will not find that in the NYT or the WaP!

Washington’s Long War on Syria – Stephen Gowans

The war over Syria has been, in truth, a fight for control over the global economic and political order—a last, failing stand for a declining American empire to forestall the current shift toward a new global balance of power. Unlike so many hastily-written books on Syria that miss this point, Stephan Gowans’ work will prove to be an essential primer on the Syrian conflict for years to come. A must read.” —Sharmine Narwani, Journalist and Analyst of Mideast geopolitics.

When President Barack Obama demanded formally in the summer of 2011 that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad step down, it was not the first time Washington had sought regime change in Damascus. The United States had waged a long war against Syria from the very moment the country’s fiercely independent Arab nationalist movement came to power in 1963. Assad and his father Hafez al-Assad were committed to that movement.

http://www.barakabooks.com/catalogue/washingtons-long-war-on-syria/



To try and do this by using a search engine to seek out some alternative sources has become very time consuming and difficult as internet access is now heavily manipulated to make sure your version of events is in pole position by giving the official story priority over any alternative accounts. That is how you are manipulated by your handlers. FREE SPEACH? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Apr 25, 2018 7:33 pm

...another opinion from Australia; a veteran's plaint.

https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal ... 4zbco.html

I can still smell the filth, the lingering odour of death (think vomit plus defecation) that seeped up from under fallen masonry blocking the street. I can still see, in the houses, the scattered detritus of clothes and baby toys, the remains of lives torn apart by horror. No glory there, watching Iraqi people dying senselessly while our planes flew overhead. None, either, amongst the confusion of militias, each attempting to rule their own tiny patch of land according to the one true faith, whichever it happened to be at that particular moment of time; Shia or Sunni, Orthodox or Catholic, animist, nationalist or, when all else failed, simply a lust for power and money.
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby miltiades » Thu Apr 26, 2018 2:52 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It's available here...

US 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria, blame it on Assad govt': Report

http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan ... 48224.html


Wife is telling me that an attack on Syria is imminent.

Australian PM called off his election campaign because he was needed for high level discussions with the US. Australia is chair of the Security Council.

What they do admit is that they are unsure whether the chemical attacks on civilians are from Assad or the Islamist Rebels. It is possible that the Rebels have Chemical Weapons as well.

They believe it is likely to be Assad but they apparently need to gather more intelligence.

It is also unlikely they will have a mandate from the UN. Therefore, action will be unilateral or NATO.

Whoever is responsible for these Sarin Gas attacks needs to be pulverized. I can't bear seeing civilians, women and innocent children being exposed to such a terrible nerve agent. Absolutely sick.

Another thing that confuses me is the fact that the Rebels are backed by fundamentalist Islamists. Sometimes, it is better in helping regimes like Assad, Qaddafi, and Mubarak maintain their power to keep everything under tight control and peaceful.

Simple fact is, some countries are just not ready for democracy and it is over rated anyway. Let's face it! Is the US, EU, or any other 'democracy' truly a democracy? Just because you get to cast your ballot does not mean you have a say.

Anyway, that was my one post per few days in this mental assylum because I'm off to Merkal land. The land of the Krauts that control Europe and screwed you buggers! They are democratic I will have you know because they have more money than you do and matter more than you do!

General, what made change your mind from your above sentiments ?
Better helping Assad to keep things peaceful ? Are you for real ?
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Re: The war against Syria

Postby Paphitis » Thu Apr 26, 2018 3:02 pm

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It's available here...

US 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria, blame it on Assad govt': Report

http://in.news.yahoo.com/us-backed-plan ... 48224.html


Wife is telling me that an attack on Syria is imminent.

Australian PM called off his election campaign because he was needed for high level discussions with the US. Australia is chair of the Security Council.

What they do admit is that they are unsure whether the chemical attacks on civilians are from Assad or the Islamist Rebels. It is possible that the Rebels have Chemical Weapons as well.

They believe it is likely to be Assad but they apparently need to gather more intelligence.

It is also unlikely they will have a mandate from the UN. Therefore, action will be unilateral or NATO.

Whoever is responsible for these Sarin Gas attacks needs to be pulverized. I can't bear seeing civilians, women and innocent children being exposed to such a terrible nerve agent. Absolutely sick.

Another thing that confuses me is the fact that the Rebels are backed by fundamentalist Islamists. Sometimes, it is better in helping regimes like Assad, Qaddafi, and Mubarak maintain their power to keep everything under tight control and peaceful.

Simple fact is, some countries are just not ready for democracy and it is over rated anyway. Let's face it! Is the US, EU, or any other 'democracy' truly a democracy? Just because you get to cast your ballot does not mean you have a say.

Anyway, that was my one post per few days in this mental assylum because I'm off to Merkal land. The land of the Krauts that control Europe and screwed you buggers! They are democratic I will have you know because they have more money than you do and matter more than you do!

General, what made change your mind from your above sentiments ?
Better helping Assad to keep things peaceful ? Are you for real ?


The tyranny and brutality of the regime.

No one knew anything about the complex situation in Syria and everyone was scared to get involved, including America. in the end, the West was egged on by Islamic State and they accepted the challenge.

But it is still no excuse to turn our backs on an entire people of the Sunni persuasion. You have no right to judge them or believe that you are in any way superior to them. They are human beings and have a right to self determination. That is what persuades me.
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