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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Sun Apr 01, 2012 4:00 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Cap wrote:Interesting to read posts by 'Cypriots' who would NEVER leave their utopian Anglo adopted homelands to repatriate. But they're quick to decide what's best for the country.

:D :D

Cap's as much a foreign-born, recent immigrant as you are and therefore equally entitled to comment, even if all he can attempt are personal jibes. Like you,through total ignorance. :D Methinks, he needs to start watching out from feeling the sharp end of my Greek foot on his rear-end, next time he's out shopping. :)
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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby SKI-preo » Mon Apr 02, 2012 4:04 am

ENOSIS: when you run out of dunny paper in a public toilet in the katehomena
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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby Cap » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:52 am

Not personal jibes, just a general obsevation.
No disrespect intended.
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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby Sotos » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:08 am

We are the most real Greeks. Our dialect is the closest one to the ancient Greek and we decent from the original Greeks, the Achaeans (Mycenaeans). In mainland Greece they had more Greek tribes coming later on who pushed the Mycenaeans from the mainland to Cyprus. The Greeks in the mainland are therefore a mix of all Greek tribes while in Cyprus we are mostly the original Achaean Greeks.

Arcadocypriot Greek:
Arcadocypriot (Greek: Αρκαδοκυπριακή διάλεκτος) or southern Achaean (νότια Αχαϊκή) was an ancient Greek dialect spoken in Arcadia in the central Peloponnese and in Cyprus. Its resemblance to Mycenaean Greek, as it is known from the Linear B corpus, suggests that Arcadocypriot is its descendant. Proto-Arcadocypriot (~1200 BC) is supposed to have been spoken by Achaeans in the Peloponnese before the arrival of Dorians; for this, it is named also southern Achaean. The isoglosses of the Cypriot and Arcadian dialects testify that the Achaeans had settled in Cyprus.


The establishment happened before 1100 BC. With the arrival of Dorians in the Peloponnese, a part of the population moved to Cyprus and the rest was limited to the Arcadian mountains. After the collapse of the Mycenaean world, communication did not exist and Cypriot was differentiated from Arcadian. It was written up to the 3rd century BC with Cypriot syllabary.


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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby Sotos » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:16 am

More:

The earliest known dialect is Mycenaean Greek, the language reconstructed from the Linear B tablets produced by the Mycenaean civilization of the Late Bronze Age in the late 2nd millennium BC. The classical distribution of dialects was brought about by the migrations of the early Iron Age[2] after the collapse of the Mycenaean civilization. Some speakers of Mycenaean were displaced to Cyprus while others remained inland in Arcadia, giving rise to the Arcadocypriot dialect. This is the only dialect with a known Bronze-age precedent. The other dialects must have preceded their attested forms but the relationship of the precedents to Mycenaean remains to be discovered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_dialects

WE are the ORIGINAL Greeks. Cyprus and Arcadia. The other Greeks are also Greeks of course... but they do not decent directly from the original Mycenaeans.
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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby kurupetos » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:02 am

Sotos wrote:More:

The earliest known dialect is Mycenaean Greek, the language reconstructed from the Linear B tablets produced by the Mycenaean civilization of the Late Bronze Age in the late 2nd millennium BC. The classical distribution of dialects was brought about by the migrations of the early Iron Age[2] after the collapse of the Mycenaean civilization. Some speakers of Mycenaean were displaced to Cyprus while others remained inland in Arcadia, giving rise to the Arcadocypriot dialect. This is the only dialect with a known Bronze-age precedent. The other dialects must have preceded their attested forms but the relationship of the precedents to Mycenaean remains to be discovered.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Greek_dialects

WE are the ORIGINAL Greeks. Cyprus and Arcadia. The other Greeks are also Greeks of course... but they do not decent directly from the original Mycenaeans.

We are the Greek Standard...ISO/GR 10001-1:2012 :D
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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Apr 02, 2012 11:21 am

Sotos wrote:We are the most real Greeks. Our dialect is the closest one to the ancient Greek and we decent from the original Greeks, the Achaeans (Mycenaeans).


Beg to differ - the genetics tends to suggest the majority of Cypriots are probabaly mostly decended from Peoples who first permanantly settled Cyprus about 6000BC, and the genetic input of Achaeans/Myceneaens is limited: these are cousins if the eteo Cretans who founded the Southern Aean civilisation based on Crete and Santorini.
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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby Sotos » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:41 pm

So now Crete, Santorini and the Agean are not Greek either? :lol: You need to go 8000 years back to make some baseless theory that Cyprus is not Greek. I can go just 1500 years back and say with 100% certainty that no part of Britain is English. No "probably", no "mostly", no "tends"... but 100% certainty! How about that? ;)
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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby supporttheunderdog » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:55 pm

Sotos wrote:So now Crete, Santorini and the Agean are not Greek either? :lol: You need to go 8000 years back to make some baseless theory that Cyprus is not Greek. I can go just 1500 years back and say with 100% certainty that no part of Britain is English. No "probably", no "mostly", no "tends"... but 100% certainty! How about that? ;)


not until 1460BC or so they were not - and then Hellenism was imposed by conquest!
As for Britain - we have been British (as opposed to English) for 8000 years.
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Re: What does 'Enosis' mean to you, today?

Postby Sotos » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:18 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Sotos wrote:So now Crete, Santorini and the Agean are not Greek either? :lol: You need to go 8000 years back to make some baseless theory that Cyprus is not Greek. I can go just 1500 years back and say with 100% certainty that no part of Britain is English. No "probably", no "mostly", no "tends"... but 100% certainty! How about that? ;)


not until 1460BC or so they were not - and then Hellenism was imposed by conquest!
As for Britain - we have been British (as opposed to English) for 8000 years.


Why do you have the national teams of England then? The English imposed themselves on Britain by conquest. We didn't do such thing to Cyprus. From the dawn of history Cyprus has been Greek. But the Anglo-Saxons are comparatively newcomers to Britain and their invasions are well recorded in history ;)
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