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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:51 am

What did you expect the TCs to do? they fought back for survival vowing never to allow you to gift the island to Greece.
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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby humanist » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:52 am

Because the minority groups in Cyprus with most numbers over other minority groups think they have special privilidges as they have the support of a powerful military regime.
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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 22, 2012 12:54 am

humanist wrote:Because the minority groups in Cyprus with most numbers over other minority groups think they have special privilidges as they have the support of a powerful military regime.


Your are not answering the question what did you expect the TCs to do, just accept becoming part of Greece?
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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby Me Ed » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:30 am

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:Because the minority groups in Cyprus with most numbers over other minority groups think they have special privilidges as they have the support of a powerful military regime.


Your are not answering the question what did you expect the TCs to do, just accept becoming part of Greece?

Why not?
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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby SKI-preo » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:51 am

Enosis with Greece is well and truly abandoned with no chance of resurrection. Do you want us to say Enosis is stupid? Agreed . The occupation is still here. The next move towards a mature Cyprus is for the Turkish army to leave.
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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby kimon07 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:01 am

Viewpoint wrote:What did you expect the TCs to do? they fought back for survival vowing never to allow you to gift the island to Greece.


Tragic!
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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby wyoming cowboy » Sun Apr 22, 2012 7:06 am

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:Because the minority groups in Cyprus with most numbers over other minority groups think they have special privilidges as they have the support of a powerful military regime.


Your are not answering the question what did you expect the TCs to do, just accept becoming part of Greece?



what makes you think that after zurich Cyprus was trying to become part of Greece? with links please, since this is the neo trend on the cyprus forum
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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby kimon07 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 8:59 am

wyoming cowboy wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:Because the minority groups in Cyprus with most numbers over other minority groups think they have special privilidges as they have the support of a powerful military regime.


Your are not answering the question what did you expect the TCs to do, just accept becoming part of Greece?



what makes you think that after zurich Cyprus was trying to become part of Greece? with links please, since this is the neo trend on the cyprus forum


This is not the point cowboy.
newgen started this thread trying to prove that Cyprus ended up divided due to the attempts of the GCs to exterminate the TCs. Now that, after our posts, it was proved that that claim is nothing but Turkish propaganda and that the intercommunal conflict was the result of Turksih unprovoked massacres of GCs etc, dictated and quided by Turkey and encouraged by Britain, aiming the partition of the island, VP changes the subject and tells you that TMT crimes aimed at not allowing the island to become part of Greece. As if there could be no other means to oppose enossis, such as diplomatic reactions, the diplomatic support of Britain etc. I n other words, what they will never answer is why should there be a blood bath and why the island had to be partitioned in order NOT to become Greek.
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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby kimon07 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:17 am

Viewpoint wrote:What did you expect the TCs to do? they fought back for survival vowing never to allow you to gift the island to Greece.


So, YOU ADMIT the that TMT did commit the unprovoked crimes listed above. And that the intercommunal conflict was initiated by the TMT which was formed by Denktash, lead by Turkish officers and encouraged by Britain. But you say that, although unprovoked by the GCs, such actions they were "fighting back" to avoid enossis? Fighting back at what? Churches and school buildings and GC houses and GC unarmed civilians?
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Re: Why is Cyprus Divided?

Postby Piratis » Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:50 am

Viewpoint wrote:What did you expect the TCs to do? they fought back for survival vowing never to allow you to gift the island to Greece.


"fight back" is something that someone does when attacked. GCs did not attack the TCs, GCs were fighting against the British Colonialists. It is the TCs who choose to attack the GCs, and therefore it is the GCs who fought back.

And what makes you think that a minority of 18% has the right to use force in order to disallow what the vast majority of the native population wants? Cyprus was under Ottoman and British empires against the will of the Cypriot people and this didn't bother you, but Cyprus being part of a state that Cypriots themselves wanted to be was somehow something you had a "right" to disallow by means of brute force?

TCs, like every other minority in Cyprus, have the right to be equal Cypriots and a right to their human rights. If you had respected our rights then we would have also respected yours and we would have lived together in peace as we do with all the other minorities. Unfortunately you decided to attack us and use brute force in order to disallow to us to exercise our democratic rights and that is how the conflict started.
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