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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Sep 23, 2004 12:22 pm

Re biraber you are sending me to a nationalistic greek page to support your arguments? What else did you expect from such a site, other than "glorious" excuses?
Anyhow this discussion leads nowhere. For me the events are unexplainable if I only account for the obvious.Maybe one day we will all know maybe not.
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Postby insan » Thu Sep 23, 2004 9:51 pm

Anyhow this discussion leads nowhere. For me the events are unexplainable if I only account for the obvious.Maybe one day we will all know maybe not.
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You are absolutely right re biraber :)


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Postby metecyp » Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:52 am


You are absolutely right re biraber Smile


"we are fools to make wars in brothers in arms"


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Postby MicAtCyp » Fri Sep 24, 2004 7:14 pm

Insan wrote: We are fools to make wars in brothers in arms


Hmm yes and no.
No because: What are our "arms"? Only democratic discussions and verbal arguments.After which everybody comes out winer and wiser.
Yes because:One cannot get wise, without been a fool first.

PS.Can you imagine the Cypriots back in the 60s-70s using such "arms" instead of those they were using?
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Postby insan » Sat Sep 25, 2004 10:17 am

PS.Can you imagine the Cypriots back in the 60s-70s using such "arms" instead of those they were using?



It would better no doubt but the "wrong ambitions" and "retaliations" just took a while to travel from their "heads" to their "fists".
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Postby brother » Tue Sep 28, 2004 3:01 pm

I think its fair to say that the atrocities were commited on all sides and nothing will bring these people back and dwelling on the past only entices hate (which is what the divisionist want) the only way we can truely honour our cypriot brothers who died in the conflict is to bring peace and unity to our island anything else would be a bad compromise.
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Postby erolz » Thu Sep 30, 2004 2:14 pm

brother wrote:I think its fair to say that the atrocities were commited on all sides and nothing will bring these people back and dwelling on the past only entices hate (which is what the divisionist want) the only way we can truely honour our cypriot brothers who died in the conflict is to bring peace and unity to our island anything else would be a bad compromise.


Atrocities were committed on both sides. Is it fair to say both communites were equally responsible for the past? It just feels to me that some here who absoloutely and totaly refuse to countenance the concept of political equality of the two communites have no such problem with a concept of equal repsonsibility (for past events) of these communites.

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Postby metecyp » Thu Sep 30, 2004 5:06 pm

Is it fair to say both communites were equally responsible for the past?

Yes it is fair to say that. GCs made many mistakes and TCs always responded with more mistakes and vice versa. No side is innocent and it's useless to argue which side is more responsible than the other.
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Postby brother » Thu Sep 30, 2004 6:41 pm

Now we getting somewere, lets now talk about the present and future and shame on those who bring up the past.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Thu Sep 30, 2004 8:09 pm

Political equality between two unequal sized communities cannot work. If it was 50:50 fine. But it is not. Political equality between 80:20 means that the 20 will dominate the 80. The only way around this impasse is to guarantee individual rights. And the only way that we can guarantee those rights is to consider ourselves as Cypriots first and foremost. If we don't then we will be doomed to partition.
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