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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:48 pm

The British Cypriot Alper Ali Riza, who is a barrister and a QC, writes an occasional column in the Cyprus Sunday Mail and he says that Article 50 can be invoked under royal prerogative because it has to do with treaties with foreign countries (and he is a strong remain supporter), and he must have some idea what he is talking about.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sat Jul 09, 2016 3:51 pm

Robin Hood wrote:why is a raven like a writing desk?


As far as i can see its just the pair of you who are mad as a hatter - time to stop talking to a brick wall ,so you go on with your wonderful world of building a palace in your mind ...
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby miltiades » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:03 pm

I think it will take years and years, in 5 years the UK will still be in the EU :lol:
As for the legal aspects concerning invoking A50, various legal experts appear to contradict each other.
Time will tell, more so once a new PM has been elected. I do hope that Mrs May will be our next PM.

In the meantime although the pound has made a minute improvement on Euro it is still way down on the US Dollar, and also, bad news for the cheapskates in the occupied parts of Cyprus , low against the Turkish lira.

On a personal matter, as I posted earlier, my house sale has now fallen through, back on the market now and took agents advice and ....increased price!! My plans were to make my own ....Brexit to Cyprus a week or two after completion. Will now make fresh plans !!
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:08 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:The British Cypriot Alper Ali Riza, who is a barrister and a QC, writes an occasional column in the Cyprus Sunday Mail and he says that Article 50 can be invoked under royal prerogative because it has to do with treaties with foreign countries (and he is a strong remain supporter), and he must have some idea what he is talking about.


might be true.but then there is this ...
The European Union (Amendment) Act 2008 (c. 7) is an Act of the Parliament of the United Kingdom. It gives effect in the law of United Kingdom to the Lisbon Treaty, which was signed there by then-Prime Minister Gordon Brown on 14 December 2007.[6] The Bill was debated in the House of Commons on 21 January 2008, and passed its second reading that day by a vote of 362 to 224;
The Minister for Europe (Mr. Jim Murphy): Following the enactment of the EU (Amendment) Bill, the Government completed the ratification process for the Lisbon treaty on 16 July by depositing its instrument of ratification in Rome.

I Have today been to see HERR JUNKER and here is the paper which bears his name upon it as well as mine
T.MAY 10/16
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on another front mrs two face Leadsom only had to google this
Personal life and public image
May's husband is hilip John May, a banker. They married on 6 September 1980; the couple have no children.[145] May has said that she regrets that, for health reasons, she has not been able to have children with her husband, saying in one interview that, "You look at families all the time and you see there is something there that you don’t have"
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Tim Drayton » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:20 pm

I agree. It's weird. How come it took an act of parliament to get us in, but it doesn't need one to get us out? But we're not experts on UK constitutional law.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jul 09, 2016 4:41 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:The British Cypriot Alper Ali Riza, who is a barrister and a QC, writes an occasional column in the Cyprus Sunday Mail and he says that Article 50 can be invoked under royal prerogative because it has to do with treaties with foreign countries (and he is a strong remain supporter), and he must have some idea what he is talking about.


...the House of Lords differs.
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Paul ZKTV » Sat Jul 09, 2016 6:27 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:The British Cypriot Alper Ali Riza, who is a barrister and a QC, writes an occasional column in the Cyprus Sunday Mail and he says that Article 50 can be invoked under royal prerogative because it has to do with treaties with foreign countries (and he is a strong remain supporter), and he must have some idea what he is talking about.


...the House of Lords differs.


the main point is you can even put in your papers to leave until its been thru all the court

The Supreme Court of the United Kingdom is the supreme court in all matters under English and Welsh law, Northern Ireland law and Scottish civil law

Further, under section 4 of the Human Rights Act 1998, the Supreme Court, like some other courts in the United Kingdom, may make a declaration of incompatibility, indicating that it believes that the legislation subject to the declaration is incompatible with one of the rights in the European Convention on Human Rights

In England and Wales, the High Court, Court of Appeal, Supreme Court, Judicial Committee of the Privy Council, and the Courts Martial Appeal Court can issue declarations of incompatibility.

In Scotland, in addition to the Supreme Court, the Court of Session and the High Court of Justiciary are also able to issue declarations of incompatibility.

So thats five years down the road ,,,
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Robin Hood » Sat Jul 09, 2016 7:58 pm

Paul ZKTV wrote:
Robin Hood wrote:why is a raven like a writing desk?


As far as i can see its just the pair of you who are mad as a hatter - time to stop talking to a brick wall ,so you go on with your wonderful world of building a palace in your mind ...


I didn't say anything like that at all. I know your English is not brilliant but try concentrating a bit more. What you quote never came from me !
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Londonrake » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:27 pm

Discourse on this subject has taken on a pretty hysterical tone. :shock:
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Re: Brexit ..... The Movie

Postby Kikapu » Sat Jul 09, 2016 10:54 pm

Paul ZKTV wrote:
You do know that for turkey to join the EU the ROC would have to agree - i would put my money on finding life on Mars ahead of that event


Actually, Turkey's road to the EU passes through 27 other EU countries. It used to be 28, UK being the 28th, which would have been the easiest road to pass of the 28. Now the UK has also fcuked Turkey's chances to the "promise land"! :wink: :lol:
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