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[Kikapu]

This is a classic video where PI who is an ex cop gets pulled over in his car. A must see.

[repulsewarrior]

...try doing that if the cops think you are a nobody; he at least is an investigator, and they know it.

...the Police have every right to stop him and to ask questions, ta least to have a dialog, in their professional capacity. They should have no expectations in this case because a crime was not committed. While they are obviously concerned for the safety of the lady mentioned. This warning was expressed effectively, the rest is a lesson they are lucky to learn, if they took the time to look at this recording with an open mind.

...had he answered their questions, do you think the issue would have deescalated? i don't. But this is not a good example of what to do in such a situation; in any case, being helpful, when the police "suspect" you of something, when it is not on your own terms is not a good idea, either.

...if you do speak to an officer, speak in a level tone, one that is not hard to hear or listen to. Honesty is important, stick to facts. In my experience, a traffic stop for whatever the case, as an experience is the luck of the draw.

Intentions count, as in the case most recently in Atlanta, where the suspect was shot twice in the back.

[Paphitis]

I don’t think cops really care who you are.

I remember a situation where the pulled over the Australian PM. They would know who the PM is. Officer was shocked to see Paul Keating, probably felt intimidated but braved normally as if another member of the public.

The Officer told the PM that he was stopped for a traffic violation and issued a fine. Apparently he kept it professional. It made the media headlines with our PM praising the Officer’s professionalism. That’s the way it should be.

In the US it’s probably even better since they have impeached Presidents, and since their courts don’t care about Royalty even. Media reports in the US have rather intriguing reports about the Federal Court wanting you question Prince Andrew. I mean that’s pretty dam interesting.

But make no mistake about it. Police can arrest you for refusing alcohol testing.

I was in a situation once where I started to refuse based on what I considered to be my rights to privacy as the police encounter was being filmed. Probably what saved me in the end plus my threats that I will take this all the way to court and show them up as the clowns they were. If they put the encounter on TV, it would have been a total disaster for them. I was polite and told them where I stand.

And being a xerokefalo, I got no problem getting a lawyer just to rove a point. I can tell you though, that I was threatened with arrest and was worried at one point. They tried to intimidate me as you would expect them to do. But he pulled over the wrong guy and he knew it. Would have no issue being pulled over for a breath test otherwise. And he could tell I was sober as well.

I did tell a politician about this encounter and he told me I had every right to do this but they could have arrested me. Probably if it went to court, a reasonable judge would have really lost his temper not with me but with the police department and he would have made an example out of them because sometimes judges are extremely sympathetic to these kind of things and probably would have sided with me. But you never know.

[repulsewarrior]

...here's one for you Kiks.

[repulsewarrior]

...the footage.

[Paphitis]

This is a classic video where PI who is an ex cop gets pulled over in his car. A must see.

Those 3 coppers were actually really nice Kikapu.

very polite and they didn't get heavy. I am trying to relate and compare them to Australian police.

Australian Police would not have been so nice. If you do the above to Aussie police, they would screw you like you never been screwed before. They would in all likelihood be arrogant.

Even if you knew your rights and didn't put a foot wrong, they would get you out of the car and say we pulled you over because we spotted a few things wrong with your car and we want to inspect it. They will find something and defect your car.

You are then only able to drive your car home, and then from home to a licensed mechanic to fix the problems on the yellow sticker they fix on your rego. Then you have to take it to an approved inspection point, where police will inspect your vehicle again. It will cost you a couple of hundred dollars, for the inspection and then they will find something else because they black marked you and they will be arseholes. So back to the mechanic to get that fixed and then back for another police inspection for another couple of hundred dollars. they will have you go back and forth for as many times as they can possibly do, just to bust your chops and fleece you.

Eventually you will pass after several hundred dollars.

personally, I would prefer cops like those in that video who really kept it together. Australian coppers will really screw you over. Can't really complain with those coppers really.

[Kikapu]

This is a classic video where PI who is an ex cop gets pulled over in his car. A must see.

Those 3 coppers were actually really nice Kikapu.

very polite and they didn't get heavy. I am trying to relate and compare them to Australian police.

Australian Police would not have been so nice. If you do the above to Aussie police, they would screw you like you never been screwed before. They would in all likelihood be arrogant.

Even if you knew your rights and didn't put a foot wrong, they would get you out of the car and say we pulled you over because we spotted a few things wrong with your car and we want to inspect it. They will find something and defect your car.

You are then only able to drive your car home, and then from home to a licensed mechanic to fix the problems on the yellow sticker they fix on your rego. Then you have to take it to an approved inspection point, where police will inspect your vehicle again. It will cost you a couple of hundred dollars, for the inspection and then they will find something else because they black marked you and they will be arseholes. So back to the mechanic to get that fixed and then back for another police inspection for another couple of hundred dollars. they will have you go back and forth for as many times as they can possibly do, just to bust your chops and fleece you.

Eventually you will pass after several hundred dollars.

personally, I would prefer cops like those in that video who really kept it together. Australian coppers will really screw you over. Can't really complain with those coppers really.

The only reason these 3 cops were “nice” it’s because they were being video and the driver knew his rights under the constitution, which these three cops tried over and over to violate it for almost 30 minutes without success. You see Paphitis, the law keeps the cops in check, as well as the citizens. If the citizens do not know their rights, the more the cops become cunts. I don’t know what laws you have in Australia, but the US constitution is the foundation of everyone’s rights, and if broken, there are recourses to punish those who break them, no matter how small or large. From monetary compensation to prison terms. I hope you take note of all this if and when you make the USA your home one day for yourself and for your family.

[erolz66]

If the citizens do not know their rights, the more the cops become cunts.

This is imo such a crucial point. Every time you choose to aid and abet Police by automatically and without question conceding to their requests that are beyond that which the law says you are obliged to comply with you increase the chance of Police abuse. The Police systematically seek to exploit the public's ignorance of what their rights are because it works for them almost all the time. If it did not work for them almost all the time they would not systematically do it. It took me a long time to come to this understanding. Be the change you want to see. If the change you want to see is better Police and better Policing, where there is less Police abuse, where more time and resource is spent on real serious criminality and not on efforts to try and criminalise people who are not seriously criminal or even criminal at all, where the public can be proud of and support the good cops - then your duty is to NOT just concede automatically and without question to any Police request that you have no legal obligation to comply with. This is not easy to do. It takes effort to educate yourself. It take courage. It takes a willingness to put wider issues ahead of your own personal self interest and expediency. It is however something any individual can chose to do or not and that can make a real world difference to things that seriously need effort to change and improve and almost certainly can and will never change for the better without such individual effort and courage from large numbers of ordinary people.

[Maximus]

the police officer that shot and killed brooks is being charged with murder and faces life in prison without parole and / or a possible death sentence.

The other officer is facing charges of aggravated assault.

https://www.rt.com/usa/492182-atlanta-c ... er-brooks/

[Kikapu]

If the citizens do not know their rights, the more the cops become cunts.

This is imo such a crucial point. Every time you choose to aid and abet Police by automatically and without question conceding to their requests that are beyond that which the law says you are obliged to comply with you increase the chance of Police abuse. The Police systematically seek to exploit the public's ignorance of what their rights are because it works for them almost all the time. If it did not work for them almost all the time they would not systematically do it. It took me a long time to come to this understanding. Be the change you want to see. If the change you want to see is better Police and better Policing, where there is less Police abuse, where more time and resource is spent on real serious criminality and not on efforts to try and criminalise people who are not seriously criminal or even criminal at all, where the public can be proud of and support the good cops - then your duty is to NOT just concede automatically and without question to any Police request that you have no legal obligation to comply with. This is not easy to do. It takes effort to educate yourself. It take courage. It takes a willingness to put wider issues ahead of your own personal self interest and expediency. It is however something any individual can chose to do or not and that can make a real world difference to things that seriously need effort to change and improve and almost certainly can and will never change for the better without such individual effort and courage from large numbers of ordinary people.

Yes indeed.

Alternatively, we all wear guns on our hips to level the playing field with the cops who act like cunts!