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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Sat May 01, 2021 11:40 pm

I dont know mate,

but her and her dad looked like the aggressors to me.

The cop just showed up,

The father was kicking a girl in the head while she was down and the daughter trying to stab another girl in front of him.

Clearly, its the police officers fault.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 02, 2021 3:24 am

Lordo wrote:You still don't get it boy. There is something in some of the GC minds that loves to see people killed and gets pleasure out of it. When Kochina was surrounded with tanks and the 800 civilians and the 500 students to landed there from Turkey back in 1964, when the firing started and they were about to be pulverized, some GCs gathered on the surrounding hills having picnic and looking forward to a bit of slaughter of some TCs.

Of course they did not count on what TAF was about to do next after repeated warning to them to pull their forces back.

You mean al the other black people slaughtered needlessly by the police are just innuendoes and false news. You stupid ass. Go back to humping roos gavole.


Really? So we GCs are blood thirsty animals are we.

If that cop didn’t rock up just in time as he did, there would have been at least 1 dead girl, and maybe the other girl on the ground being kicked would have been next making it 2 dead people.

Fortunately, the cop did come and he acted quickly as there was no other choice and the girl or would be murderer is now dead. Hence saving the life of the other girl and possibly the life of the other girl on the ground.

This is the job of the police. It’s why we have police. For situations like these and many other situations and sometimes they need to act fast as they could find themselves in a situation like this one where they have no choice but to shoot.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 02, 2021 3:26 am

Kikapu wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:The cop who shot the 16 year old in the back 4 times is likely to be guilty of using excessive deadly force, racism and murder, since he had other options which would have been less severe. He may end up sharing a cell with Chauvin.

Any cop who shoots anyone in the back when the victim is no threat to them, can ONLY be a CUNT. That will be the starting point to them.

I say the above points because it is not the police’s responsibility to protect us, and the Federal courts have ruled on this few times, therefore, it was not the responsibility of the cop to shoot the 16 year old in the back, even if she was going to hurt someone else other than the police officer.


“Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,” said Darren L. Hutchinson, a professor and associate dean at the University of Florida School of Law. “Police can watch someone attack you, refuse to intervene and not violate the Constitution.”

The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the government has only a duty to protect persons who are “in custody,” he pointed out.


Their motto is to protect and to serve.

Especially when they are present at the scene of a crime or a crime in the making.

The first line in that bold quote does not say that they can not and it is against the constitution or state law to protect individuals from harm.

If he didnt protect the other girl from getting stabbed, she could have been the one dead now and the narrative by those who have something negative to say about it would be something else.

Unfortunately, the police officer cant be a hero but only the villain in this upside down world.

What would you be saying if that was your daughter, about to be stabbed...


At the time the cop shot the girl with the knife, no injury had occurred yet. The only crime perhaps threatening someone with a knife. We have no idea if the shot girl was protecting herself from the other girl. Who had the knife first. No one is hurt yet. The cop acts as Jury, Judge and Executioner without knowing any facts. Why didn’t he use the taser instead? Why not run and grab the knife away from the girl if he wants to be a hero and save any injuries. Why shoot more than once as if she was a target at a firing range?


You don’t just wait for the injury to happen. And one blow could be more than just an injury.

It was clear to me that in a split second, that girl would have been stabbed, and likely be injured enough to die.

This BLM has politicised everything but thankfully we have courts and judges which will protect this officer as it’s inconceivable to me that this policeman should be reprimanded for doing what he is paid to do. If anything, this police officer deserves a commendation and medal fir likely saving at least 1 life. Maybe 2 lives.

And the other girl and her Dad were on a bloody rampage for whatever reason. Well, they did reap what they themselves sowed.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 02, 2021 3:31 am

It’s hot to the point now that if you get mugged by some black people who have you at gunpoint, a police officer can’t do their job anymore.

And then everyone is having a go at Americans and their guns.

Well it seems to me the smart ones have guns because you never know when you might need it one day.

Let incoherent Biden go after the NRA.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 02, 2021 3:34 am

There is no question in my mind that if this incident was in Australia, an Australian Police officer would have done the same thing and shot that girl carrying the knife. Reality is, no other choice.

And secondly, that police officer who shot that girl needs all the support he needs to get over the trauma. It’s probably the first time he has been in a situation to require shooting a person. That is traumatic in anyone’s language in itself. The poor guy will need stress leave and psychological counselling too, so he can go home to also be a good husband to his wife if he is married and a good father to his children if he has children.

When you go through a situation like this, it can change you and others around you suffer with you, through no fault of their own.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 02, 2021 3:41 am

I am so glad cops carry cameras now. This protects them.

Imagine if there was no camera. The media would be allowed to crucify an innocent cop. That camera has saved this cop.

Therefore, I have no doubt cameras protect cops in situations like these where they are forced to take drastic action and shoot someone.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Sun May 02, 2021 4:42 am

Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:What you are saying is that the girl in pink should have been allowed to get stabbed.

No, come on man.

I have a pretty good idea, that the girl in pink was no threat to the other girl at the time the police showed up.

It looked like it was her that called the police, as she was the first to go over when they arrived to greet them. She wasn't aggressive.

The police officers body cam shows that.


So, the pink lady calls the cops and who knows how long the cops took to get there and during all this time before the cops arrive, the pink lady is still alive to greet the cops. So why didn’t the cops protect the pink lady from any harm by keeping others away? Is that because cops actually do not do that, but instead suddenly, the pink lady and the black lady are at each other again with a knife. What is the mental state of the black girl that she wants to harm the pink lady when the cops are there, but not harm her when the cops weren’t there? Really.

So why doesn’t the cop use the taser instead of the gun. What not fire a shot in the air to get everyone’s attention, or was it more important to get off 4 shots to see if they were all grouped together in her body as practiced at the firing range. The cop was too trigger happy from where I’m standing, which leads me to believe, he may be tried for this shooting after the city pays millions to the girls family for wrongful death by one of their officers.


That is all irrelevant. We do not know the history between them that led to this but irrespective of the history, the girl in pick was in very grave danger as the police officer showed up as we can see from his body cam.

No one deserves to be stabbed or murdered.

The copper had no choice but to act decidedly otherwise that other girl could have been murdered. It’s very lucky that the cop arrived when he did. Very lucky. Just in the Nick of time by the skin of her teeth by the looks of the police footage. Lucky to say the least.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Sun May 02, 2021 9:16 am

This cop had options with much less deadly force, and whenever the police uses deadly force, they will be in the hot seat. Often police are given a lot of leniency when they kill anyone because their own lives are in danger. Not in this case. Once all the details are known, we will all have better idea how this case will end. Some right wing nut job TV presenters calling this cop a “hero” is just that, a nut job. To be a hero in anything, one would need to go way beyond the call of duty, no matter who you are. Pumping 4 bullets into a 16 year’s back from close range killing her does not make him a “hero”.

I am not condoning the behaviour of those fighting and the use of knife for weapon, but the officer used excessive deadly force when he had other options, especially when his own life was not in danger from the person he shot and killed. There are consequences to such actions and this cop will need to face them if charges are brought against him.

If the jury relied in Floyd’s case on police body cameras, Chauvin would have walked as a free man from the court. Always film the police. For far too long the police have been getting away with murdering suspects. Chauvin’s actions and his conviction was the worst thing that has happened to the police in the USA as they are now all under the microscope, and rightly so.
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Lordo » Sun May 02, 2021 10:45 am

So if the right wing presenter is a nut job, what does that make our friend who walks around upside down then?
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Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Sun May 02, 2021 10:57 am

Either way, it looks like one person would have been killed.

I dont envy their job at all.
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