The Best Cyprus Community

Skip to content


...this is America.

Everything related to politics in Cyprus and the rest of the world.

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Londonrake » Sun May 02, 2021 4:19 pm

Paphitis wrote:One day I was in my favourite bakery for my cuppa of espresso, and that absolutely amazing copper came in. Blond and extremely beautiful. Wearing a bullet proof vest, side arm, tazer, and last but certainly not least, cuffs. long hair in a pony tail swaying from side to side as she walked through the bakery to order her donuts. We are so blessed to have great police in Australia. :lol:

She made me feel like committing a crime. So the thought crossed my mind, to steal a donut. Then resist arrest so she can put me in a thigh head lock. :lol:


According to Kicks she might just cut to the chase and riddle you with bullets. :shock: :lol:
Londonrake
Regular Contributor
Regular Contributor
 
Posts: 2913
Joined: Tue Dec 29, 2015 6:19 pm
Location: ROC

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Sun May 02, 2021 5:48 pm

Maximus wrote:What kiks is saying is like saying,

Someone can point a gun at you and shoot but you shouldn't use lethal force in response because there is a chance they could miss you.

How do you know he will kill you? you can do this that or the other instead.


No Max, that is NOT what I am saying and you know very well that is not what I am saying. :wink:
User avatar
Kikapu
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 16430
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:18 pm

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Kikapu » Sun May 02, 2021 6:54 pm

Paphitis wrote:One day I was in my favourite bakery for my cuppa of espresso, and that absolutely amazing copper came in. Blond and extremely beautiful. Wearing a bullet proof vest, side arm, tazer, and last but certainly not least, cuffs. long hair in a pony tail swaying from side to side as she walked through the bakery to order her donuts. We are so blessed to have great police in Australia. :lol:

She made me feel like committing a crime. So the thought crossed my mind, to steal a donut. Then resist arrest so she can put me in a thigh head lock. :lol:


Yes, you have told this story few months ago. :wink:
User avatar
Kikapu
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 16430
Joined: Sun Apr 16, 2006 6:18 pm

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Sun May 02, 2021 7:19 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Maximus wrote:What kiks is saying is like saying,

Someone can point a gun at you and shoot but you shouldn't use lethal force in response because there is a chance they could miss you.

How do you know he will kill you? you can do this that or the other instead.


No Max, that is NOT what I am saying and you know very well that is not what I am saying. :wink:


You need to be clearer,

You gave me the impression that the cop had to assess physics better than Isaac Newton, have the speed of the flash and shoot better than John Wick.

You are holding the police officer to impossible standards.
Maximus
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 6018
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:23 pm

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Lordo » Sun May 02, 2021 7:43 pm

No he is not. Police officer has two weapons. He chose to use a gun when the taser would have done the job. Just like Kim Potter who went for her gun when she or anybody else was in no danger what so ever and killed a man. Then she claimed she did not realise it was the gun she pulled. Yeah right pull the other one mate the middle one has bells on it.

This policeman could have tasered the attacker and disarm her. She chose to use lethal force. She will have to explain it in court. Why was there a need for lethal force when the lesser taser would have done the job and nobody would have been killed. Of course there is a chance that the taser would have killed the girl but he at least he would have taken appropriate action.

This reminds me of the GC police who broke a black mans leg when he was unarmed. I wonder was there any action taken against that policeman?
User avatar
Lordo
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 14421
Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:13 pm
Location: softalar, banana republic

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Sun May 02, 2021 8:38 pm

How do you know the taser could have done the job?

You talking out of your ipsilon delta as usual.
Maximus
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 6018
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:23 pm

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Maximus » Sun May 02, 2021 8:46 pm

I will just leave this here..

A person is justified in using or threatening to use deadly force if he or she reasonably believes that using or threatening to use such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the imminent commission of a forcible felony.
Maximus
Main Contributor
Main Contributor
 
Posts: 6018
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2011 7:23 pm

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Lordo » Sun May 02, 2021 11:45 pm

Maximus wrote:How do you know the taser could have done the job?

You talking out of your ipsilon delta as usual.

I don't understand you. When I mentioned taser surely you would have checked out what it is all about.

Here you are . See how quick it knocks a navy seal man down

User avatar
Lordo
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 14421
Joined: Wed Oct 05, 2011 2:13 pm
Location: softalar, banana republic

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Mon May 03, 2021 8:48 am

Lordo wrote:No he is not. Police officer has two weapons. He chose to use a gun when the taser would have done the job. Just like Kim Potter who went for her gun when she or anybody else was in no danger what so ever and killed a man. Then she claimed she did not realise it was the gun she pulled. Yeah right pull the other one mate the middle one has bells on it.

This policeman could have tasered the attacker and disarm her. She chose to use lethal force. She will have to explain it in court. Why was there a need for lethal force when the lesser taser would have done the job and nobody would have been killed. Of course there is a chance that the taser would have killed the girl but he at least he would have taken appropriate action.

This reminds me of the GC police who broke a black mans leg when he was unarmed. I wonder was there any action taken against that policeman?


Sorry but in a life or death situation, as this clearly was, police do have the authority to use lethal force.

they are trained to aim for the chest as well. Which will likely kill the assailant. Aiming for legs or limbs mean increase chance of missing entirely, and resulting in the death of a member of the public or a police officer.

Tazers are only an apprehension tool. They are not used when guns or knives are used or someone is about to be shot or stabbed.

In addition, most tazers are single shot. Miss and someone else gets killed - police officer or member of the public. Some are 2 shot, but you can miss twice. Depends how far away they are. Which also adds they may not even be within range or willing to get close enough to an armed assailant to use a tazer. certainly makes sense to me. If someone is holding a knife, it's probably a great idea being far enough where they can't get at you.

This situation placed the cop in a life or death situation of a member of the public. So the officer assessed the risk and determined lethal force was necessary. So they shot the assailant and another 1 or 2 members of the public are likely saved.

Should be congratulated for a job well done.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ta ... on-n656461
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 28898
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

Re: ...this is America.

Postby Paphitis » Mon May 03, 2021 8:54 am

Police have a job to do to protect the public.

Since I and all of us (99.9% of us) have no intention to be carrying knives or guns to threaten other people with, we could all fall victim to a lunatic by being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Police MUST in such situations do what they are trained to do. Not gamble with our lives. And that means, get their guns out and take down the assailant if it is deemed that their or the public's safety is in grave danger.

Obviously, tazers have their uses to in apprehending individuals where there is no grave danger. There may even be situations where tazers are not necessary. Tazers can also be deadly in certain circumstances.

But in this instance, an enraged 16 year old was about to stab another person whilst another person was kicking the crap of another who was on the ground.

This is clear cut in my view. It warrants an immediate response with deadly force or the use of a firearm.
User avatar
Paphitis
Leading Contributor
Leading Contributor
 
Posts: 28898
Joined: Sun May 21, 2006 2:06 pm

PreviousNext

Return to Politics and Elections

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests