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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby Sotos » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:30 pm

Ο καθένας με τον πόνο του ;) GR blames the Greeks, Paphitis blames the Russians, Kurupetos blames the Jews (he didn't say it but I am sure it is implied!)
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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby Get Real! » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:35 pm

Sotos wrote:Ο καθένας με τον πόνο του ;) GR blames the Greeks, Paphitis blames the Russians, Kurupetos blames the Jews (he didn't say it but I am sure it is implied!)

And Sotirakis blames json files.

I know it' lame but I had to come up with something... :?
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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby T_C » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:41 pm

Paphitis wrote:But she has a hatred for Greece and she considers herself to be Yugoslavian and Macedonian.

If she wasn't Nationalistic, or she didn't have a hatred for Greece she wouldn't care about the Macedonia name at all. Those who do, only want to harm Greece.


:lol: Rubbish! Maybe they want Macedonia in their name because their lands once fell under the Macedonian umbrella?! I think we all know you especially have nationalist tendencies, not least because you constantly look up to the Turks' nationalistic ways as if it's something to aspire to, but you also see this as some sort of conspiracy against Greece. As far as I'm aware no one is denying the real, ancient Macedonia is in Greece, so I don't understand what harm will come from them adopting the name in some form, if that's what they feel their country should be called. It's not like they pulled a random name out of a hat!

Paphitis wrote:It's about annexation of Greek lands, maybe not now, but in the future. For what end? For Thessaloniki of course.

Why is Nimitz and the USA involved? because they need to get FYROM into NATO (with Greece) and the only way they can do that is by brokering a deal. NATO is the biggest security blanket that actually protects Greece.

The stakes are very high and you can bet your bottom dollar that USA and Russia are jockeying for the upper hand. USA believe that getting FYROM in NATO will best suit Greek and US interests because the last thing they want is to have Russian Troops on Greece's northern border. A country of 2 million is no threat to Greece. But Russia is, and the fear is that FYROM doesn't get into NATO then it will go with Russia and then Greece is in trouble because they got Russia on its border and that isn't good at all.

Welcome back Cold War. Russia and USA are fighting for control here. If the Russians win, they are closer to the Aegean. Just 200 kms away in fact.


I think that's just paranoia, Greece is a EU member state with clearly defined borders. Nothing bad in wanting these two countries to cooperate for the greater good of the region, tourism etc.

Paphitis wrote:You accusation against Greece is actually very false T_C. Greece is the little pawn being manipulated here. But Greece does have a friend. it's just some people can't see it yet. They won't see it until they are invaded


What accusation against Greece?! :? It was you who said the Greeks cannot live under democracy and that they should live under the dictatorship of the Junta, I was just trying to point out the ridiculousness of it, that you would rather such extremes over these 2 countries finding an amicable solution.

It's no different to what goes on in Turkey with their frenzied protests every time the nationalists come close to having to concede something, so I don't believe it an issue unique to Greece.

Anyway, how did I get so wrapped up in all this!!!! :evil:
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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby Sotos » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:46 pm

A good compromise for the name would be Slavomacedonia ... but apparently the Albanian minority of that country objects in a name that has the word "Slav" in it. So the Albanians don't want to be called Slavs, but somehow they have no problem with being called Macedonians! In any case if the name will include the word "Macedonia" it should be a compound name ... like Novamacedonia.
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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby T_C » Mon Feb 05, 2018 5:49 pm

Sotos wrote:A good compromise for the name would be Slavomacedonia ... but apparently the Albanian minority of that country objects in a name that has the word "Slav" in it. So the Albanians don't want to be called Slavs, but somehow they have no problem with being called Macedonians! In any case if the name will include the word "Macedonia" it should be a compound name ... like Novamacedonia.


Exactly, something like that sounds a reasonable compromise! Surely they can find a killer combo that works for everyone!
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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby Sotos » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:04 pm

Maybe they want Macedonia in their name because their lands once fell under the Macedonian umbrella?

The majority of them are actually Bulgarians and then there is an Albanian minority. During the Yugoslavia era they basically brainwashed these people that they are "Macedonians"... and that was done so that Bulgaria and Albania would not be able to claim lands of Yugoslavia where Bulgarians and Albanians were living. If you take away this "Macedonian" identity that they were given, then they are just Bulgarians and Albanians and their country might be at risk of dissolving. So I don't blame them for wanting to keep this identity... but it should be modified in such a way to make it clear that they have nothing to do with the Ancient Macedonians and that their country is not where ancient Macedonia used to be.
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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:27 pm

A bit off thread but Paphitis did decide to bring Russia in as the big bogey man, I just had to put my word in against his usual anti-Putin bile ! :roll:

Paphitis:

Try to clear your head of all the propaganda and see the man as he really is ! A man is defined by his actions. This lady knows President Putin and has the credentials your rabid sources lack.

Sharon Tennison ran a successful NGO funded by philanthropists, American foundations, USAID and Department of State, designing new programs and refining old ones, and evaluating Russian delegates’ U.S. experiences for over 20 years. Tennison adapted the Marshall Plan Tours from the 40s/50s, and created the Production Enhancement Program (PEP) for Russian entrepreneurs, the largest ever business training program between the U.S. and Russia. Running several large programs concurrently during the 90s and 2000s, funding disappeared shortly after the 2008 financial crisis set in. Tennison still runs an orphanage program in Russia, is President and Founder, Center for Citizen Initiatives, a member of Rotary Club of Palo Alto, California, and author of The Power of Impossible Ideas: Ordinary Citizens’ Extraordinary Efforts to Avert International Crises.

Is Putin Profoundly Corrupt or “Incorruptible?” - By Sharon Tennison

Sharon Tennison recounts her personal experience of and observations about Vladimir Putin.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/48726.htm


....... or is she (like me) just another despicable traitor to her country for having an admiration for the man? :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby Robin Hood » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:31 pm

Sotos wrote:A good compromise for the name would be Slavomacedonia ... but apparently the Albanian minority of that country objects in a name that has the word "Slav" in it. So the Albanians don't want to be called Slavs, but somehow they have no problem with being called Macedonians! In any case if the name will include the word "Macedonia" it should be a compound name ... like Novamacedonia.


... like " Novamacedonia". I like it! Should keep both sides of the argument happy. :wink:
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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:29 pm

They're nuts!

So, they should be called Macadamians. :P :D
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Re: Macedonia is Greece

Postby yialousa1971 » Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:23 pm

kurupetos wrote:P.S. Traitors, stop the troll!

Instead you can go f*ck yourselves! :wink:


This is the best way to deal with traitors! 8)

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