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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby repulsewarrior » Thu May 31, 2018 6:12 am

...well Delphy, i hope you're getting all this, is it useful?
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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby akiner » Fri Jun 08, 2018 3:05 pm

miltiades wrote:I take it that Turkey has not violated anything under international law.
Did Turkey have the legal right to occupy the northern parts of Cyprus ? Guarantor rights excluded the occupation and ethnic cleansing of 200 thousand Cypriots.
Dont lecture me about legalities, Turkey which you obviously consider a .....great nation will sooner rather than later be kicked out of NATO. Lets see then how mighty this peasant third world nation will be then, that is of course if Sultan Erdogan is in power. Mate, Turkey will never be allowed to grab any more than she has allready grabbed.


Stop talking issues that you dont know,
1st There is no mechanism to kick any member out in North Atlantic Treaty
2nd There is no power who can kick the only NATO country who shot down a Russian war plane and got away with it! NATO has no balls, is null without Turks...
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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby Get Real! » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:03 pm

akiner wrote:There is no power who can kick the only NATO country who shot down a Russian war plane and got away with it!

You must still be counting your blessings... :lol:

I don't blame you though... the Turkish government is as dumb as they get given that Russia could wipe Turkey off the map in about 10 minutes.

The next time you see Putin, a nice slow blow job is in order... :wink:
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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby miltiades » Fri Jun 08, 2018 7:21 pm

akiner wrote:
miltiades wrote:I take it that Turkey has not violated anything under international law.
Did Turkey have the legal right to occupy the northern parts of Cyprus ? Guarantor rights excluded the occupation and ethnic cleansing of 200 thousand Cypriots.
Dont lecture me about legalities, Turkey which you obviously consider a .....great nation will sooner rather than later be kicked out of NATO. Lets see then how mighty this peasant third world nation will be then, that is of course if Sultan Erdogan is in power. Mate, Turkey will never be allowed to grab any more than she has allready grabbed.


Stop talking issues that you dont know,
1st There is no mechanism to kick any member out in North Atlantic Treaty
2nd There is no power who can kick the only NATO country who shot down a Russian war plane and got away with it! NATO has no balls, is null without Turks...

I take it that you consider that Turkey has balls!!! Could these balls have been acquired in 1974 when it invaded a tiny nation or perhaps or perhaps way back when it slaughtered more than a million Armenians? Or maybe ehen recently it took on ....Israel ?? Mate Turkey is a third world nation and with the continued " islamization" will be on par with Pakistan in a short time. The true Turkish Cypriots know this and sooner rather than later eill reject this backward country.
By the way do they still practice female genital mutilation ?
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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby Kikapu » Sun Jun 10, 2018 6:34 pm

akiner wrote:
miltiades wrote:I take it that Turkey has not violated anything under international law.
Did Turkey have the legal right to occupy the northern parts of Cyprus ? Guarantor rights excluded the occupation and ethnic cleansing of 200 thousand Cypriots.
Dont lecture me about legalities, Turkey which you obviously consider a .....great nation will sooner rather than later be kicked out of NATO. Lets see then how mighty this peasant third world nation will be then, that is of course if Sultan Erdogan is in power. Mate, Turkey will never be allowed to grab any more than she has allready grabbed.


Stop talking issues that you dont know,
1st There is no mechanism to kick any member out in North Atlantic Treaty
2nd There is no power who can kick the only NATO country who shot down a Russian war plane and got away with it! NATO has no balls, is null without Turks...

Turkey doesn’t need to be officially kicked out of NATO to get Turkey to be rid from NATO. The other NATO members can withdraw from the NATO alliance and form another alliance minus Turkey. Turkey then can become a NATO alliance of 1. :D The way Trump is going, I wouldn’t be surprised if he pushes to dismantle NATO and form another alliance with democratic values, including the RoC. :wink:
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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby akiner » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:27 pm

Kikapu wrote:
akiner wrote:
miltiades wrote:I take it that Turkey has not violated anything under international law.
Did Turkey have the legal right to occupy the northern parts of Cyprus ? Guarantor rights excluded the occupation and ethnic cleansing of 200 thousand Cypriots.
Dont lecture me about legalities, Turkey which you obviously consider a .....great nation will sooner rather than later be kicked out of NATO. Lets see then how mighty this peasant third world nation will be then, that is of course if Sultan Erdogan is in power. Mate, Turkey will never be allowed to grab any more than she has allready grabbed.


Stop talking issues that you dont know,
1st There is no mechanism to kick any member out in North Atlantic Treaty
2nd There is no power who can kick the only NATO country who shot down a Russian war plane and got away with it! NATO has no balls, is null without Turks...

Turkey doesn’t need to be officially kicked out of NATO to get Turkey to be rid from NATO. The other NATO members can withdraw from the NATO alliance and form another alliance minus Turkey. Turkey then can become a NATO alliance of 1. :D The way Trump is going, I wouldn’t be surprised if he pushes to dismantle NATO and form another alliance with democratic values, including the RoC. :wink:


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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:47 am

akiner wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
akiner wrote:
miltiades wrote:I take it that Turkey has not violated anything under international law.
Did Turkey have the legal right to occupy the northern parts of Cyprus ? Guarantor rights excluded the occupation and ethnic cleansing of 200 thousand Cypriots.
Dont lecture me about legalities, Turkey which you obviously consider a .....great nation will sooner rather than later be kicked out of NATO. Lets see then how mighty this peasant third world nation will be then, that is of course if Sultan Erdogan is in power. Mate, Turkey will never be allowed to grab any more than she has allready grabbed.


Stop talking issues that you dont know,
1st There is no mechanism to kick any member out in North Atlantic Treaty
2nd There is no power who can kick the only NATO country who shot down a Russian war plane and got away with it! NATO has no balls, is null without Turks...

Turkey doesn’t need to be officially kicked out of NATO to get Turkey to be rid from NATO. The other NATO members can withdraw from the NATO alliance and form another alliance minus Turkey. Turkey then can become a NATO alliance of 1. :D The way Trump is going, I wouldn’t be surprised if he pushes to dismantle NATO and form another alliance with democratic values, including the RoC. :wink:


Dreams, dreams, dreams, that is what you all can do!


just giving you a possible scenario what can happen, a way to get get turkey out of NATO which you claim to be impossible. Trump was not too crazy about the USA being in NATO during the presidential campaign, so once the trade wars starts with new tariffs, next thing Trump will do is try to disband NATO and form another alliance with those who can make a significant contribution in money, logistical support and usefulness of location. In all reality, USA is NATO and the rest of other members are more or less "cheerleaders" at the moment.
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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:31 am

Kikapu wrote:
akiner wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
akiner wrote:
miltiades wrote:I take it that Turkey has not violated anything under international law.
Did Turkey have the legal right to occupy the northern parts of Cyprus ? Guarantor rights excluded the occupation and ethnic cleansing of 200 thousand Cypriots.
Dont lecture me about legalities, Turkey which you obviously consider a .....great nation will sooner rather than later be kicked out of NATO. Lets see then how mighty this peasant third world nation will be then, that is of course if Sultan Erdogan is in power. Mate, Turkey will never be allowed to grab any more than she has allready grabbed.


Stop talking issues that you dont know,
1st There is no mechanism to kick any member out in North Atlantic Treaty
2nd There is no power who can kick the only NATO country who shot down a Russian war plane and got away with it! NATO has no balls, is null without Turks...

Turkey doesn’t need to be officially kicked out of NATO to get Turkey to be rid from NATO. The other NATO members can withdraw from the NATO alliance and form another alliance minus Turkey. Turkey then can become a NATO alliance of 1. :D The way Trump is going, I wouldn’t be surprised if he pushes to dismantle NATO and form another alliance with democratic values, including the RoC. :wink:


Dreams, dreams, dreams, that is what you all can do!


just giving you a possible scenario what can happen, a way to get get turkey out of NATO which you claim to be impossible. Trump was not too crazy about the USA being in NATO during the presidential campaign, so once the trade wars starts with new tariffs, next thing Trump will do is try to disband NATO and form another alliance with those who can make a significant contribution in money, logistical support and usefulness of location. In all reality, USA is NATO and the rest of other members are more or less "cheerleaders" at the moment.


What you said is NOT far fetched.

Australia has requested that Turkey be removed or evicted from the F-35 Consortium because it has bought Russian Made S400 missiles.

The concern is that Turkey is selling classified technical information to the Russians and jeopardising the entire F-35 project.

The US Government has introduced a Bill to prevent the handover of F-35 aircraft to Turkey.

Australia has made an official representation to its partners and the US Government. Australia has indicated to the US Government that Turkey is a massive security concern for the Commonwealth of Australia.
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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:39 am

The Israeli Government has also made the same deliberations as Australia to the US Government. They want Turkey out of the F-35 Consortium and to prevent the transfer of sensitive technologies to the rogue State.

Australia only 2 weeks ago vetoed UN Security Resolutions against the State of Israel citing that Israel is not the only that is at fault but rather it takes 2 to tango and the other dance partner does not even have any willingness whatsoever to negotiate.

https://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/libr ... tnik02.htm

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/florida-jew ... story.html

Here is the article if you can get past the paywall!

https://myaccount.news.com.au/sites/her ... =anonymous

And yes, if this situation continues, Turkey will find itself out of NATO. If Israel and Australia are now complaining at an official level, then the UK and France will hop in and before you know it, so will Canada, and Denmark.

France has a $50 billion dollar contract with Australia for 12 Shortfin Barracuda Submarines, so you can imaging that Australia is very concerned over its 17 Billion dollar F-35 investment. Having the Turks do sweetheart deals with the Russians is not what they would have expected.
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Re: Getting a speeding fine removed from my passport (The No

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:54 am

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
just giving you a possible scenario what can happen, a way to get get turkey out of NATO which you claim to be impossible. Trump was not too crazy about the USA being in NATO during the presidential campaign, so once the trade wars starts with new tariffs, next thing Trump will do is try to disband NATO and form another alliance with those who can make a significant contribution in money, logistical support and usefulness of location. In all reality, USA is NATO and the rest of other members are more or less "cheerleaders" at the moment.


What you said is NOT far fetched.

Australia has requested that Turkey be removed or evicted from the F-35 Consortium because it has bought Russian Made S400 missiles.

The concern is that Turkey is selling classified technical information to the Russians and jeopardising the entire F-35 project.

The US Government has introduced a Bill to prevent the handover of F-35 aircraft to Turkey.

Australia has made an official representation to its partners and the US Government. Australia has indicated to the US Government that Turkey is a massive security concern for the Commonwealth of Australia.


It makes perfect sense to me and I agree with the Australian government in making the request to kick Turkey out, one way or the other.
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