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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Dec 18, 2018 2:54 am

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..if we want a Constitution that Turkey will accept, it must be good for Turkey.

While Cyprus remains one of Turkey's National issues, Cypriots may consider how the example Cypriots demonstrate, provides hope to those in Turkey who feel the same sense of subjugation imposed on them by "Turks", their zeal to define (the world, and) themselves by their dogma, for "Turkishness" alone.

In Cyprus, (and in Turkey) there is the need to recognise that, as Individuals, without further distinction or discrimination, by defending the Universal Principals, and the Rule of Law that goes beyond Peoples, Cypriots secure their Freedom.

A Republic of Cyprus exists for this purpose, but in need of reform.

Liberty is another matter, where in Turkey as in Cyprus, there is as well as Persons, the need for mutual trust and respect, recognition, and a facilitation, for these distinct identities through self-representation a means to sustain themselves with their own Agenda. And, by having this capacity, demonstrating in effect their Goodwill, in such a Jurisdictional territory, toward their minorities by providing for their special needs, as a majority.

A BBF in Turkey, may result in its own Constitutional Reform.

...one Cyprus, like one Turkey, should not be hard to understand.

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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby DrCyprus » Mon Dec 31, 2018 10:02 am

Ok, so, let's say we take one of those islets in the middle of nowhere and we take 5 Greek Cypriots and 5 Turkish Cypriots and make a survivor type reality show out of it. Everyone would watch that shit.
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby kurupetos » Mon Dec 31, 2018 12:41 pm

DrCyprus wrote:Ok, so, let's say we take one of those islets in the middle of nowhere and we take 5 Greek Cypriots and 5 Turkish Cypriots and make a survivor type reality show out of it. Everyone would watch that shit.

After the first week the TCs will request Turkey's intervention...
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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:10 am

...welcome Ms. Garber.

While you evaluate Cyprus, and Cypriots, with feet on the ground, i hope that you will always remember, who needs your help. "Greeks" and "Turks", there are a plenty almost identical in their plaint; and the other half, who do not believe in their (or this politic) politics but are the victim of it: this is the Cyprus Problem, far more complex, though it is not framed this way.

...and let's not forget, that while Cyprus is divided decades, "Turkishness", now, divides Turkey. That while Cyprus remains a National issue for Turkey, a unified Cyprus provides an example that in their own Constitutional reform, Turkey may emulate. A divided Cyprus, will only secure, in Turkey, greater division.

Cyprus is small, but not insignificant, it is a cross-road for three Continents,and it is the balance of power, without which Turkey would rule this sea. Russia may have its influence on the island, Cyprus in effect is non-aligned. The influence other world players have, like America, and Britain, Israel, Egypt, and Greece, Qatar, Italy, Korea, and France, offers all of them, at least on this issue, the Problem, the opportunity to demonstrate unity, for Cypriots, and Freedom.

Cypriots over the millennium have survived by being the facilitators of exchange. It should not be any different today. Their betrayal, to tear this island apart, only serves to deprive Humanity of this Heritance, a People who for so long have greeted other people with charity, humility, and grace. As an 'honest broker', Cypriots can feel a certain confidence today, what with the progress they've seen in that regard, despite the recent past ; except with the "but one".

...heady days ahead, what some would call interesting; for Cyprus, for Freedom, the region, good luck

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/01/03/next ... he-senate/

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Re: Cypriotism (Cypriot Nationalism)

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:56 am

@MT..."yes, "Kurds" and Kurds, i ask, are you a "Turk"? And if not, what have you against Kurds? They are oppressed in Turkey, not unlike what is happening to Cypriots, (and let's not forget the Alevi), thanks to "Turkishness", divided. Indeed, the Problem, is very complex.

But, i have hope. With a small change in intention, Erdogan may leave a great, and lasting, Legacy; for Turks, all Turks, (and God), if it is in "Turkishness", to show Grace.

One Syria, One Turkey, is not so hard to understand. One Cyprus, One Turkey, is also for the same reasons not hard to understand.

My hope is that a united Cyprus, a home for those who love this island as Cypriots, will offer to Turkey the guidance it needs in its own Constitutional reform, a BBF, like Canada, or the United States of America.

...this may happen quickly, in Cyprus, Hope.

Nothing provides for him a better opportunity to improve the esteem he has from other world leaders. I imagine Turkey stronger for it, all the more reason to turn Cyprus the adversarial equal for so long, into an ally and, a friend.

Recognition of Cyprus, the Republic as it exists, and that it seeks to reform itself, is key. As in Turkey, (and Syria,) one People, united in defending the Universal Principals of their State, their Freedom. Diverse as Persons, and in their self-representation, respect and trust, toward their own minorities in providing for their special needs, defending their Liberty as one.

...indeed, Erdogan may show, the way.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/07/opin ... 9:30056974



...message to Mr. Erdogan.
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