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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:33 pm

Wouldn't God be even more glorious than the universe?
It goes without saying that he must be and it would be interesting to see this entity with our own eyes but unfortunately we can’t.

So if you believe that it is foolish to believe that the universe has always existed or
I never said it always existed… I have no idea about the universe's age. Nobody can know that.

came out of nothing because it is magnificent and glorious then using the same logic isn't it even more foolish to believe that there is a God that has always existed and came out of nothing when God should be even more magnificent and glorious than the universe?
God is not a material object that would require a designer. Everyone seems to agree that God must be some kind of spirit-like phenomenon… a special superpower that we cannot comprehend.

Clearly your logic fails. At some point you need to accept that something glorious and magnificent can exist without the need to be created.
God is the only exception to the rule because he is… GOD! You just don’t get “GOD” do you? :lol:

In which case why that something can't be the universe, which we do know for a fact that it exists, but instead something "supernatural" which we have no evidence whatsoever that it even exists?
Because the universe is full of material things that have a life span (birth and death) and their composition is not terribly impressive. Something else must be their designer/maker.

So if you want to call something "God" why not call the universe a God? Because the universe doesn't care about you, and you want a God that does?
I for one have never believed in a personal God that listens to people’s prayers but I know countless others do.

To sum things up it’s pretty clear to me that the universe and all its content is the work of a designer and not some random chance happening.


NB: It's really hard replying to your BLOCKS of text Sotos.
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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby Maximus » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:49 pm

How did you guys go from random polygons generated by an algorithm to an airplane then on to God?

Anyway.

Well done for creating the algorithm in the first place, well done to science for creating airplanes and to those looking without to find God are looking in the wrong place. God is found within.
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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby Maximus » Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:54 pm

The universe is consciousness and everything is connected. We are all connected.

Denounce God and you denounce yourself because God "creating you" in his own image.

All that you are then are particles and an ego.

Even that airplane started as a thought.

Everything that exists started in consciousness.

That is where you will find God.
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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby miltiades » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:04 pm

There is NO GOD for ....Godsake!!
Wake up !!
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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby Maximus » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:06 pm

miltiades wrote:There is NO GOD for ....Godsake!!
Wake up !!


its you that needs to wake up,

You need an awakening!

"He who controls his mind controls the world" - Buddha
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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:16 pm

miltiades wrote:There is NO GOD for ....Godsake!!
Wake up !!

They should put you in a straitjacket for your own good... :lol:
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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby miltiades » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:29 pm

I can understand simple people swallowing these religious nonsense, after all the more illiterate a person is the more religious he tends to be. However those with at least some education should do some research in order to be become enlightened.
How the fuck did your imaginary creator commit murder on a mass scale you stupid man, how could this super creator cover the land of Egypt with fucking locusts, how could this imaginary creator refer to one people as HIS people. Can you not see that the Jewish boy, Moses, created god ??
Why would HIS people be the Israelites, why not the Kiprei, ?? Stupid WAKE UP.
THERE IS NO GOD. THE WHOLE NONSENSE WAS CREATED BY MOSES and other mentally sick who followed him.
Still, as you are a psycho I can excuse your naivety.
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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby Maximus » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:33 pm

miltiades wrote:I can understand simple people swallowing these religious nonsense, after all the more illiterate a person is the more religious he tends to be. However those with at least some education should do some research in order to be become enlightened.
How the fuck did your imaginary creator commit murder on a mass scale you stupid man, how could this super creator cover the land of Egypt with fucking locusts, how could this imaginary creator refer to one people as HIS people. Can you not see that the Jewish boy, Moses, created god ??
Why would HIS people be the Israelites, why not the Kiprei, ?? Stupid WAKE UP.
THERE IS NO GOD. THE WHOLE NONSENSE WAS CREATED BY MOSES and other mentally sick who followed him.
Still, as you are a psycho I can excuse your naivety.


So what you are saying is that science or man created a "dog eat dog" world, mass murder, disease and suffering?

Is that what you believe in?
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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby Get Real! » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:37 pm

miltiades wrote:I can understand simple people swallowing these religious nonsense, after all the more illiterate a person is the more religious he tends to be. However those with at least some education should do some research in order to be become enlightened.
How the fuck did your imaginary creator commit murder on a mass scale you stupid man, how could this super creator cover the land of Egypt with fucking locusts, how could this imaginary creator refer to one people as HIS people. Can you not see that the Jewish boy, Moses, created god ??
Why would HIS people be the Israelites, why not the Kiprei, ?? Stupid WAKE UP.
THERE IS NO GOD. THE WHOLE NONSENSE WAS CREATED BY MOSES and other mentally sick who followed him.
Still, as you are a psycho I can excuse your naivety.

GOD is whatever is responsible for the existence of the universe… and you don’t need a bible to acknowledge this simple premise.

So stop mixing everything up and getting confused...
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Re: Design vs Randomness

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 30, 2018 1:38 pm

Maximus wrote:The universe is consciousness and everything is connected. We are all connected.

Denounce God and you denounce yourself because God "creating you" in his own image.

All that you are then are particles and an ego.

Even that airplane started as a thought.

Everything that exists started in consciousness.

That is where you will find God.


To each their own maximus.

If you believe in God, then good for you.

I don't believe there is such a thing. I do not believe in Intelligent Design. If there was Intelligent design involved, then we should all go to the Designer and ask for our money back! :lol:
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