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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 14, 2018 1:57 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Also re Paphiti, kikapu already gave you a hint:
Your status will be the same like those indians, Philippinos, Shri-Lankans and what have you.
Is this what you really want? A 2nd class alternative??
You will always be the 2nd choice compared to native Americans...
How will you feel if e.g there's a chance to be fleet manager, and while you are the most qualified, a less qualified native American gets the promotion just because of that?


No it not the same. My VISA is called an E-3 and that one only applies to Australians.

That has been clearly specified.

It also means I can bring my entire family and they will be entitled to US Health and my wife will be able to work like a US Citizen. The only thing we can't do is vote.

Australia and USA have a full on Customs Union. Not just that, but the company is sponsoring our migration. Their lawyers actually go in and bat for us with immigration and sponsor our move and provide assurances and guarantees on our behalf.

The other good thing about the E-3 is that it is an indefinite VISA. It has no expiry. therefore, I don't have to leave if I don't want to. So pretty much, I can migrate to USA and stay and become American. Apparently, Canadian pilots are getting the H-1B but Australian Pilots get the E-3 VISA.

As for getting the job, they have already offered that. Background checks are a formality but can take a few weeks to turn around. Geneally though, it is quicker between Australia and USA because both countries share information on request.
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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:12 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:You will always be the 2nd choice compared to native Americans...
How will you feel if e.g there's a chance to be fleet manager, and while you are the most qualified, a less qualified native American gets the promotion just because of that?

:? You can't be that ignorant and stupid... :lol:


Meet the new fleet manager Paphitis... :lol:

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Sorry... you didn't get the job because it's a fleet of Mustangs!

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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:22 pm

My understanding is that the E-3 is pretty much the best VISA available, and the E-3 is only being granted to Australians at this point so there must be some pretty big bilateral agreements between USA and Australia and apparently it was all part of the FTA.

I always took the E-3 as being the so called "Green" card. Not sure if there is another category.

But E-3 trumps H-1B from what I can gather, because it does not expire and renews automatically.
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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:You will always be the 2nd choice compared to native Americans...
How will you feel if e.g there's a chance to be fleet manager, and while you are the most qualified, a less qualified native American gets the promotion just because of that?

:? You can't be that ignorant and stupid... :lol:


Meet the new fleet manager Paphitis... :lol:

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Sorry... you didn't get the job because it's a fleet of Mustangs!

:lol: :lol: :lol:


I'll take a fleet of mustangs any day. This is what I call a real aircraft. Gosh the YANKS made the best shit ever. No one could ever outdo them, like ever. :shock:

There is nothing more beautiful than a P-51 Mustang. This is what you would call art. Meet the Picasso Mona Lisa of Aviation.

The sound of its engine is like listening to a 300 piece symphony orchestra and the exhaust fumes smell like roses.

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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 14, 2018 2:45 pm

Kikapu wrote:Paphitis,

FedEx was recently offering between $40,000-$100,000 for the soon to retiring pilots to stay on until after the Christmas rush, so it is all in the favor of pilots these days, so I would say, you stand a good chance of being selected. The fact that you have a family, it does add an extra cost to the company in the form of addition cost to cover their heath insurance which they pay mostly and you will also pay some towards it. That is standard benefit to employees all across the USA in all industries. Not being married is not an issue to the company as “domestic partner” benefits are same as being married, at least that is the case in California anyway, however, it might create another layer of paperwork to get the government’s approval which the company that will hire you will need to apply on your behalf for work permit.

The airline will most likely apply for H1B visa for you as it is standard in California’s Silicon Valley for IT workers coming from India and Asia in general, which the government approved up to 200,000 applicants in recent years, but it may have an end date when you may need to leave the USA unless the company can apply for a green card on your behalf, and if your work is satisfactory and pilot shortage remains in the future, 5hen you have a good chance getting the Green Card for yourself and your family.. But first thing first, which is to get the job, your working visa, TSA clearance of your background check and a place to live that fits all your needs as a family. It is good that you have some relatives in the area. That can be a big plus in the immediate future.


Speaking of Fed-Ex, we have a guy with us that was Fed-Ex. He wanted to move to the Gold Coast and lives there now because he is a surfing maniac/addict. I have no idea what VISA he is on. probably a 457 VISA. He will become an Australian Citizen too. He is a real nice fella.

We have Americans coming to Australia and Australians going to America. The entire industry has gone bonkers.

You can get a job in China too. All you need to do is apply. But NO THANKS. Been there, and its a shit hole. No offence to anyone. It's just friggin crowded and dirty.
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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Kikapu » Sun Oct 14, 2018 3:05 pm

Paphitis wrote:My understanding is that the E-3 is pretty much the best VISA available, and the E-3 is only being granted to Australians at this point so there must be some pretty big bilateral agreements between USA and Australia and apparently it was all part of the FTA.

I always took the E-3 as being the so called "Green" card. Not sure if there is another category.

But E-3 trumps H-1B from what I can gather, because it does not expire and renews automatically.


I wasn‘t aware there was a E-3 visas for Ausies only. Lucky for you as it cuts down being in a long que along with the H1B visas, especially if it also leads to a Green card. You already have a head start. :wink:
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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 14, 2018 4:03 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:My understanding is that the E-3 is pretty much the best VISA available, and the E-3 is only being granted to Australians at this point so there must be some pretty big bilateral agreements between USA and Australia and apparently it was all part of the FTA.

I always took the E-3 as being the so called "Green" card. Not sure if there is another category.

But E-3 trumps H-1B from what I can gather, because it does not expire and renews automatically.


I wasn‘t aware there was a E-3 visas for Ausies only. Lucky for you as it cuts down being in a long que along with the H1B visas, especially if it also leads to a Green card. You already have a head start. :wink:


Apparently so. Looks like the Yanks are rolling the red carpet out for Aussies. Not even the Brits and Canadians are entitled to E-3. I feel privileged. :D

I have no idea what this Green card is. I always thought the E-3 was a Green Card.

Anyhow, it is permanent residency for the entire family and I can stay for as long as I like.

I think the USA and Australia should just declare ENOSIS and get it over and done with already. :lol:

I think there is a bit of a bromance going on between USA and Australia. :lol:
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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:25 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:You will always be the 2nd choice compared to native Americans...
How will you feel if e.g there's a chance to be fleet manager, and while you are the most qualified, a less qualified native American gets the promotion just because of that?

:? You can't be that ignorant and stupid... :lol:


Hey spell checker of the forum. I didn't say Native Americans, I said native Americans which means native citizens. Capitalization matters.
I wonder how more stupid could you be to not even sense it :lol: :lol:
Go amend your spell checker now.
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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Paphitis » Sun Oct 14, 2018 6:41 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:You will always be the 2nd choice compared to native Americans...
How will you feel if e.g there's a chance to be fleet manager, and while you are the most qualified, a less qualified native American gets the promotion just because of that?

:? You can't be that ignorant and stupid... :lol:


Hey spell checker of the forum. I didn't say Native Americans, I said native Americans which means native citizens. Capitalization matters.
I wonder how more stupid could you be to not even sense it :lol: :lol:
Go amend your spell checker now.


Just to answer your question from earlier.

Americans have been bringing migrants to their country ever since their founding. They are a country of migrants, like Australia is.

Now I really don't want to be a fleet manager. Just want to fly. And they got a number of Aussie Captains and not just Aussies but from other countries as well. Now, an Aussie is probably not going to be Chief Pilot, but why would anyone want to be a chief Pilot of such a company. It would be a massive headache. Plus, it is more an administrative role and it just wouldn't be my thing. Plus I think the Americans are actively seeking Australian trained pilots. They do respect us and value the Australian Qualifications.

The Aussies however do progress as captains, and Check and Trainers and Line Trainers. It is business after all and these businesses need to crew their planes.

Some of the most senior pilots within Turkish Airlines are Greek. So if Turkish Airlines can employ ex Olympic, and promote these guys, it just goes to show that in the business world the main priority is to make money. Executives are answerable to their share holders and no shareholder is going to be looking at the ethnicity or citizenship of the pilots. They just want the planes crewed and flying max hours to make max revenue at the most efficient way possible.

In the current environment, it wouldn't matter if you are Indian, Sri Lankan, Turkish or Chinese.

The hardest thing is adapting to your new environment. Things like schools, the culture, the weather, how you would pass your time and stuff like that. The airline would actually bend over backwards to try and make you feel good because they want you to stay. They are paying a lot of money to get their pound of flesh from you and make a profit.
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Re: Problems with Turkish pipeline

Postby Get Real! » Sun Oct 14, 2018 7:37 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:You will always be the 2nd choice compared to native Americans...
How will you feel if e.g there's a chance to be fleet manager, and while you are the most qualified, a less qualified native American gets the promotion just because of that?

:? You can't be that ignorant and stupid... :lol:


Hey spell checker of the forum. I didn't say Native Americans, I said native Americans which means native citizens. Capitalization matters.
I wonder how more stupid could you be to not even sense it :lol: :lol:
Go amend your spell checker now.

There’s only ONE meaning for “native Americans” and that ALWAYS refers to America’s indigenous population regardless of how it may be capitalized.

Non-indigenous Americans can be referred to as “the locals”, “local citizens”, “American citizens” or just plain “Americans”.

If you ask a white American if he is a “native American” he’ll probably punch you in the face for implying that he is a “brownie”! :lol:

Why don’t you paste your sentence here at this online spell checker and click “check” to see what happens…

It automatically capitalizes “native” as it should do because there’s only ONE type of “native American”, the indigenous type:

http://www.reverso.net/spell-checker/en ... g-grammar/

Now, admit your folly and be quiet... :)

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