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[Pyrpolizer]

Ok.
Now go to bed

[Get Real!]

Ok.
Now go to bed

I’m not done yet...

By the power vested in me by the forum administration, I am now placing you Pyro under arrest for the deliberate attempt to deceive the forum and the total disrespect you have shown the Red Indians.

Now empty your pockets… turn around and place your hands behind you back!

Atta girl… [click]

[Kikapu]

In the US, whenever we use the term “Native Americans”, it is ALWAYS describing “Red Indians” however that term no longer being politically acceptable, hence using the term “native Americans” instead.

And how did the non-Indian locals refer to themselves?

Basically as American citizens or an American.

Most native Americans are not American citizens, but “citizens” of the Indian nation in the tribe they belong to, which there are many different tribes. When I recently drove through Indian reservations, I was driving through sovereign Indian land where the state laws do not apply as they have their own laws.

[repulsewarrior]

Curious that the Cypriot People, as Cypriots, seems to have no place in the view taken by Mr. Kanli.

He talks of “Greeks” and “Turks”, in Cyprus, as equals; I ask myself, what is a Turk, if there are “Kurds”, and “Turks” in Turkey, aren’t they equal, wouldn’t they (“Greeks” and “Turks”/ “Kurds” and “Turks”) be equal for the same reasons?

Indeed, the Cyprus Problem, is Turkey’s problem, that of the identities we carry as Human beings, as Individuals, and as Persons; how these are expressed, politically. The world is not divided as Mr. Kanli suggests, those “Turkish”, and those not “Turkish”. Dividing Cyprus in such a manner has been Turkey’s goal, now for decades, and despite the failure of the Annan Plan, it seems that, in such a policy nothing has changed, because it is the same goal in Turkey, by its “Turks” for its “Turks”.

Turkey is more divided than ever, and this is something to think about, because One Cyprus, means, One Turkey.

“…2) a quest for Turkey’s help to overcome an acute water shortage on the island.”, seriously; what was the Karpas, and what is it today, I remember. I remember that it was the Cypriot Republic who organised a system of Public Works, where there was none before, everybody had water to drink, electrification, and asphalt roads. And since then I have seen who is the better steward in Cyprus. Such a statement should be referenced, I have never heard such an historical fact, and it would be appreciated being something new, quite controversial in and of itself.

…it was Mr. Ecevit if I recall who dreamed of exporting water from Turkey throughout the Eastern Mediterranean, “Peace Pipes”, toward the management of water regionally, for the benefit of the larger whole’s security. Recall as well, the Euphrates, great efforts were made, then, toward those ends. Such efforts are no less valid today.

Erdogan has built a stretch of pipe to Cyprus, it is true, but it is no gift to Cypriots, Turkish, “Turkish” or otherwise. If Mr. Kanli, takes the time to consider my view he may reconsider the value of Turkey’s contribution in this matter, how it it is that Turkish Cypriots had thirst, and, the privatization of every drop of water, and every watt of power I might add, into the hands of few, and unknown for the most part, so that as a population, people may not thirst (if it’s paid for), (representing only 30% of “that” water). What is the greater good from all this effort and expense?

I still hope that it will be “gifted” to the People, as Cypriots, it is the right thing to do, it shows Grace, and it pays a lot of reparations. Such a signal for Turkish Cypriots to unite, as Cypriots, for Cyprus, is not anathema to the plans Turkey must have in Turkey without it tearing apart. Like Cyprus, one Turkey, one Flag of Turkey, Constitutional Reform, a BBF, within, another level of Government, Cypriot Constituencies, as in Cyprus, one Cyprus, one Flag of Cyprus, Freedom without any further distinction or discrimination, within Liberty, as Persons, Turkish Constituencies.

http://www.thecypriotpuzzle.org/cyprus- ... mment-1642

...if they get water, they pay; pipeline or not.

[Paphitis]

My understanding is that the E-3 is pretty much the best VISA available, and the E-3 is only being granted to Australians at this point so there must be some pretty big bilateral agreements between USA and Australia and apparently it was all part of the FTA.

I always took the E-3 as being the so called "Green" card. Not sure if there is another category.

But E-3 trumps H-1B from what I can gather, because it does not expire and renews automatically.

I wasn‘t aware there was a E-3 visas for Ausies only. Lucky for you as it cuts down being in a long que along with the H1B visas, especially if it also leads to a Green card. You already have a head start.

Apparently so. Looks like the Yanks are rolling the red carpet out for Aussies. Not even the Brits and Canadians are entitled to E-3. I feel privileged.

I have no idea what this Green card is. I always thought the E-3 was a Green Card.

Anyhow, it is permanent residency for the entire family and I can stay for as long as I like.

I think the USA and Australia should just declare ENOSIS and get it over and done with already.

I think there is a bit of a bromance going on between USA and Australia.

Green card is not a visa of any kind, but a legal permit to reside and work in the USA permenantly, and should you leave the US more than a year, you will lose the right to retain the green card. Generally, green card are issued to those who are married to American citizens which also leads them to gain citizenship after 3 years of marriage. Green cards are also issued those who are also married to other green card holders with certain conditions. Also given to illegal aliens by amnesty programs, or by winning the lottery or direct immigration selection.

However, it sounds to me that the E-3 is a working and residing visa and not a permit in the form of a green card. To become a citizen of the US, you need to have a green card first. Sounds to me like, once you have worked a certain period in the US under E-3 visa, perhaps 5 years, you may be able to apply for a Green Card for yourself and then to your family afterwards. There was a time spouses of H1B visa holders were not able to work in the US, but I believe that has been changed, but not certain, but I don‘t know if those rules also apply to the E-3 visa holders.

I am sure you can stay as long as you want in the US under E-3 visa program as long as your employer is sponsoring you under the E-3 program. If you left that employer you may well lose your E-3 visa unless another employer can hire you under the same E-3 visa program. Green card holders are not under the same restrictions as they don’t even need to have a job. I would be really interested to know all the relevant rules under the E-3 program which I’m sure you have already investigated. I am just thinking out loud and not really know anything about the E-3 visa rules and whether it is an another name for a green card.

My spouse is allowed to live and work in the USA under the E-3.

However, if my employment status changes, it could be that the E-3 is also lost. It is the because the company is willing to sponsor and guarantee me that I am able to get an E-3.

It doesn't say however anything about Green cards, but when I asked the HR professional, she told me that after 5 years your status changes. What it changes too, I am uncertain. I have to find out. Probably means Green Card or Citizenship. I thought it was Citizenship from the outset.

https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-st ... -australia

Eligibility Criteria

To qualify for an E-3 visa, you must demonstrate that you:

Are a national of Australia
Have a legitimate offer of employment in the United States
Possess the necessary academic or other qualifying credentials
Will fill a position that qualifies as a specialty occupation

[Kikapu]

My spouse is allowed to live and work in the USA under the E-3.

However, if my employment status changes, it could be that the E-3 is also lost. It is the because the company is willing to sponsor and guarantee me that I am able to get an E-3.

It doesn't say however anything about Green cards, but when I asked the HR professional, she told me that after 5 years your status changes. What it changes too, I am uncertain. I have to find out. Probably means Green Card or Citizenship. I thought it was Citizenship from the outset.

https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-st ... -australia

Eligibility Criteria

To qualify for an E-3 visa, you must demonstrate that you:

Are a national of Australia
Have a legitimate offer of employment in the United States
Possess the necessary academic or other qualifying credentials
Will fill a position that qualifies as a specialty occupation

Paphitis,

Looking at the link you have provided, my interpretation of the E-3 visa is not a "Green Card", because with the Green Card, one changes their immigration status, but with the E-3, it doesn't appear to be the case sorry to say.

With a Green Card, there are no requirements for renewals after certain period and it is not based on employment either.

Please read these link as it talks about "E-3 visa to Green Card status". It is not as easy or automatic as your HR professional may have stated, but it is possible under certain conditions:

https://lightmanimmigration.com/work-vi ... reen-card/

https://lightmanimmigration.com/employment-green-cards/

https://lightmanimmigration.com/eb-3-green-card/

[Paphitis]

My spouse is allowed to live and work in the USA under the E-3.

However, if my employment status changes, it could be that the E-3 is also lost. It is the because the company is willing to sponsor and guarantee me that I am able to get an E-3.

It doesn't say however anything about Green cards, but when I asked the HR professional, she told me that after 5 years your status changes. What it changes too, I am uncertain. I have to find out. Probably means Green Card or Citizenship. I thought it was Citizenship from the outset.

https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-st ... -australia

Eligibility Criteria

To qualify for an E-3 visa, you must demonstrate that you:

Are a national of Australia
Have a legitimate offer of employment in the United States
Possess the necessary academic or other qualifying credentials
Will fill a position that qualifies as a specialty occupation

Paphitis,

Looking at the link you have provided, my interpretation of the E-3 visa is not a "Green Card", because with the Green Card, one changes their immigration status, but with the E-3, it doesn't appear to be the case sorry to say.

With a Green Card, there are no requirements for renewals after certain period and it is not based on employment either.

Please read these link as it talks about "E-3 visa to Green Card status". It is not as easy or automatic as your HR professional may have stated, but it is possible under certain conditions:

https://lightmanimmigration.com/work-vi ... reen-card/

https://lightmanimmigration.com/employment-green-cards/

https://lightmanimmigration.com/eb-3-green-card/

Thanks Kikapu. those links are helpful and I should be careful when disclosing intent.

But the 3rd link above is basically saying that the Eb-3 is an employment based Green card. I need clarification over Eb-3 and E-3.

The first link is saying that the E-3 is not a Green card but I can apply for an adjustment of status down the track and obtain a Green card.

2 Ways to Apply for a Green Card and one way is to apply for an adjustment of status route. I think the best way to deal with these issues are to speak to a lawyer or the company when the time comes, because it is evident that the potential of a slip up is there just merely from the point of you of having dual intent.

So what else can I do?

I know that the company is going to want me to stay for 17 years or 23 years and compulsory retirment. They want me to consider this the retirement job of all jobs.

So if I end up staying there for 17 years, my status will change at some point. No?

By that time, my children would have completed school in the US and have attended their university system too, and would probably speak with an American accent and have become a bit Americanized. Australia would start to feel foreign to them.

[Kikapu]

My spouse is allowed to live and work in the USA under the E-3.

However, if my employment status changes, it could be that the E-3 is also lost. It is the because the company is willing to sponsor and guarantee me that I am able to get an E-3.

It doesn't say however anything about Green cards, but when I asked the HR professional, she told me that after 5 years your status changes. What it changes too, I am uncertain. I have to find out. Probably means Green Card or Citizenship. I thought it was Citizenship from the outset.

https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-st ... -australia

Eligibility Criteria

To qualify for an E-3 visa, you must demonstrate that you:

Are a national of Australia
Have a legitimate offer of employment in the United States
Possess the necessary academic or other qualifying credentials
Will fill a position that qualifies as a specialty occupation

Paphitis,

Looking at the link you have provided, my interpretation of the E-3 visa is not a "Green Card", because with the Green Card, one changes their immigration status, but with the E-3, it doesn't appear to be the case sorry to say.

With a Green Card, there are no requirements for renewals after certain period and it is not based on employment either.

Please read these link as it talks about "E-3 visa to Green Card status". It is not as easy or automatic as your HR professional may have stated, but it is possible under certain conditions:

https://lightmanimmigration.com/work-vi ... reen-card/

https://lightmanimmigration.com/employment-green-cards/

https://lightmanimmigration.com/eb-3-green-card/

Thanks Kikapu. those links are helpful and I should be careful when disclosing intent.

But the 3rd link above is basically saying that the Eb-3 is an employment based Green card. I need clarification over Eb-3 and E-3.

The first link is saying that the E-3 is not a Green card but I can apply for an adjustment of status down the track and obtain a Green card.

2 Ways to Apply for a Green Card and one way is to apply for an adjustment of status route. I think the best way to deal with these issues are to speak to a lawyer or the company when the time comes, because it is evident that the potential of a slip up is there just merely from the point of you of having dual intent.

So what else can I do?

I know that the company is going to want me to stay for 17 years or 23 years and compulsory retirment. They want me to consider this the retirement job of all jobs.

So if I end up staying there for 17 years, my status will change at some point. No?

As the link stated. you will need to change your status to a Green Card holder in Australia from a E-3 at some point after you arrive in the US.

The EB-3 is a sub category to E-3 visa under which you can change your status to a Green Card in the USA.

At the end of the day, once you have settled in the US with your work and place to live, at some point, you need to hire a good immigration attorney to look into how you can gain Green Card through normal channels. It is possible the HR professional is making everything sound very rosy to entice pilots like yourself to enroll. These HR people may well be on big commissions from the companies who are looking for professional such as yourself, therefore, take their advice and opinions with a pinch of salt as they say. What you need is a good immigration lawyer and the US is full of them and every other lawyers you may need. 17 years is a long time with the company. Just stay healthy so that you can always pass your FAA class I medical check, which has a direct link for you to retain your E-3 visa, then eventually to obtain your Green Card.

[Paphitis]

My spouse is allowed to live and work in the USA under the E-3.

However, if my employment status changes, it could be that the E-3 is also lost. It is the because the company is willing to sponsor and guarantee me that I am able to get an E-3.

It doesn't say however anything about Green cards, but when I asked the HR professional, she told me that after 5 years your status changes. What it changes too, I am uncertain. I have to find out. Probably means Green Card or Citizenship. I thought it was Citizenship from the outset.

https://www.uscis.gov/working-united-st ... -australia

Eligibility Criteria

To qualify for an E-3 visa, you must demonstrate that you:

Are a national of Australia
Have a legitimate offer of employment in the United States
Possess the necessary academic or other qualifying credentials
Will fill a position that qualifies as a specialty occupation

Paphitis,

Looking at the link you have provided, my interpretation of the E-3 visa is not a "Green Card", because with the Green Card, one changes their immigration status, but with the E-3, it doesn't appear to be the case sorry to say.

With a Green Card, there are no requirements for renewals after certain period and it is not based on employment either.

Please read these link as it talks about "E-3 visa to Green Card status". It is not as easy or automatic as your HR professional may have stated, but it is possible under certain conditions:

https://lightmanimmigration.com/work-vi ... reen-card/

https://lightmanimmigration.com/employment-green-cards/

https://lightmanimmigration.com/eb-3-green-card/

Thanks Kikapu. those links are helpful and I should be careful when disclosing intent.

But the 3rd link above is basically saying that the Eb-3 is an employment based Green card. I need clarification over Eb-3 and E-3.

The first link is saying that the E-3 is not a Green card but I can apply for an adjustment of status down the track and obtain a Green card.

2 Ways to Apply for a Green Card and one way is to apply for an adjustment of status route. I think the best way to deal with these issues are to speak to a lawyer or the company when the time comes, because it is evident that the potential of a slip up is there just merely from the point of you of having dual intent.

So what else can I do?

I know that the company is going to want me to stay for 17 years or 23 years and compulsory retirment. They want me to consider this the retirement job of all jobs.

So if I end up staying there for 17 years, my status will change at some point. No?

As the link stated. you will need to change your status to a Green Card holder in Australia from a E-3 at some point after you arrive in the US.

The EB-3 is a sub category to E-3 visa under which you can change your status to a Green Card in the USA.

At the end of the day, once you have settled in the US with your work and place to live, at some point, you need to hire a good immigration attorney to look into how you can gain Green Card through normal channels. It is possible the HR professional is making everything sound very rosy to entice pilots like yourself to enroll. These HR people may well be on big commissions from the companies who are looking for professional such as yourself, therefore, take their advice and opinions with a pinch of salt as they say. What you need is a good immigration lawyer and the US is full of them and every other lawyers you may need. 17 years is a long time with the company. Just stay healthy so that you can always pass your FAA class I medical check, which has a direct link for you to retain your E-3 visa, then eventually to obtain your Green Card.

I lead a very healthy lifestyle Kikapu to retain my Class 1. Although that is still no guarantee.

But I am a regular at the gym and I eat well with a high fibre, high protein diet and I stay away from the sweets. it's pretty boring but as I told my wife - my first love is aviation. I would struggle with anything else.

As for the HR professional, yes they are eager to get signatures on the dotted line. They are also not the only place in the world doing this. Emirates have parked up 50 long haul wide bodies.

One of their Cypriot A380 Captains calls me when he flies into Brisbane and we go to this place I know in West End for Cypriot Souvla, sheftalies and Octopus. He is telling me to put my hat in the ring but I don't want long haul. I prefer short haul domestic. I just want the short 2 to 3 sectors a day.

I got him hooked on Australian Craft Beers so every time he comes, we load him up with half a dozen boxes. And he somehow gets that through to Dubai wink wink...I hope we don't see him on the news one day. We've become beer snobs down here mate. Always talking about the hops and what have you.

I get to meet a few of the ex Cyprus Airways boys now with Emirates and Etihad. Some of them want to leave the Middle east too, and they are also looking towards the US. Good thing about Australia and US, is that there is a lot of short haul as well.

[MR-from-NG]

Bloody hell Paphitis. Doesn't your wife mind you pissing in her glasses?