Lordo wrote:Londonrake wrote:DT. wrote:As a British citizen, I’m still finding it hard to find one brexiteer to explain to me how our lives will be better outside the EU.
In 2.5 years I have yet to find somebody who extols the virtues of the EU and membership, rather than “The end is nigh” posts regarding leaving.
The current doom mongering being brought to you from the self same people who in early 2016 gave us:
In the event of a leave vote:
An immediate deep recession, requiring an emergency budget.
500,000 increase in unemployment.
Eye watering increases in tax and interest rates.
A freeze or reductions in pensions.
Etc, etc, etc.
i dont remember anybody claiming that there would be any significant difference. I seem to remember that the predictions were after leaving.
now I do remember:
1 - 350 million a week saving for nhs. in reality that figure did deduct the rebate nor how much money eu pays back to the depressed areas of the uk and the farmers too
2 - we were promissed there will be no freedom of movement
3 - we would be able to get a free trade deal with the eu.
4 - no mention how much tax we will pay for selling into eu and how much tax our people will pay for buying from the eu.
now all three were complete lies. when it comes to unemployment we certainly will feel the effect after we leave. dperession and banks rates too
of course uming that we do indeed leave. i cannot see that happening.
currently in the house of commons there is no majority for the may deal or hard berixt but there is a majority for remain. so unless there is a new elections and bresixters become a majority it will not happen. and of course may will not hols another election which means they will delay berixit till after the next election. there is a possibility that may will appemt to force a hard brexit through the house at which point she will lose the no confidence motion.
There will be benefits. For instance, the UK will be freed from EU Regulation and buearocracy. This will have tangible benefits but to what extent, no one really knows.
Other benefits are that they would better control who enters their country and who will attain permanent residency.
There will be tangible benefits but no one will be able to quantify the benefits until the BREXIT occurs. That however doesn’t stop the doomsayers from the remain side to spread their propaganda, and lies. Both sides are capable of lieing actually and spreading propaganda, but none are as good and organised as the remainers. Teresa May is a remainer, but as a PM she has the duty of seeing BREXIT through. In fact, any future British PM has the same duty because that is what the people voted for. Even if they are remainers, they are bound by the democratic duty and will of the people. A Contract which must never be violated.
As to the NHS. Well yes, there is migration to the UK purely because Britain has close to the best Health System in Europe, and also lets not forget social security. The Brits will be better able to control that, but what is it worth is hard to tell.
You got to remember that if all the migration remained unchecked, then there would come a time when the UK Government can not provide Health or an NHS without ending up like Greece.
So yes, the choice needed to be made. Might not affect you now, but it would have affected your children and grand kids.
