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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Feb 11, 2019 6:40 pm

https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/02/10/akin ... dent-says/
According to Anastasiades:

But if by ‘political equality’ he means a positive vote for every decision of the central government or any other institutional structure, then I am sorry to say, this is not political equality, but it creates political inequality for the reason that it will allow one community to impose itself on the other.”

Can someone analyze this?
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Re: Political equality

Postby Kikapu » Mon Feb 11, 2019 9:21 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/02/10/akincis-idea-of-political-equality-equates-to-political-inequality-president-says/
According to Anastasiades:

But if by ‘political equality’ he means a positive vote for every decision of the central government or any other institutional structure, then I am sorry to say, this is not political equality, but it creates political inequality for the reason that it will allow one community to impose itself on the other.”

Can someone analyze this?


I thought we have done it many times, Pyro.

Basically, Akinci wants a veto vote on everything, in which case, political equality (on man one vote) is replaced by political inequality (minority rule over majority). Veto vote = 100% vote for the minority.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:42 pm

is that your analysis of the above statement.
since when has akinci asked for veto on everything?
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Re: Political equality

Postby Kikapu » Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:40 pm

Lordo wrote:is that your analysis of the above statement.
since when has akinci asked for veto on everything?


That is how Akinci and Turkey interpret the definition of “political equality“, isn‘t it?

If it wasn‘t and they interpreted as being “one man one vote“, there would have been a settlement long time ago, no? :roll:
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Re: Political equality

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Feb 12, 2019 3:12 am

...the laundry list that Anastasiades is proposing seems like a good step. Two levels of Government should imply that Standards are made, that everyone follows, and that in their execution, taxpayers, as Persons, are closer to their money in making such decisions a reality.

...works in the USA, and it works in Canada. I dare say it works in Australia, but honestly i don't know enough about their Constitution, and how it works as a BBF.

Akinci to do real good needs guts. He, must stand up as a Cypriot, for Cyprus. (As opposed to "Turkishness", a Turkish, Cypriot.) I have suggested that a simple act, like standing under the Flag of Cyprus will rally Cypriots to his cause, if it is the reform of Cyprus' State, and not a "new" Cyprus, he seeks.

...indeed, in word he sounds defensible, it is action that is needed, from him.

And what about equality? What is the first step toward a Bicommunal Bizonal Federation? How does the dialog improve to that end?

By returning to the empty chairs in the Legislature; there is no shame in that if this time Greeks fill their chairs in the Communal Chamber.
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Re: Political equality

Postby B25 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 9:14 am

RW, what you talking re, Akinci, is Erdocunts mouth piece in Cyprus. He has been promissed all kinds of bribes for him and his kin.

Don't expect anything from this snake.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:12 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Lordo wrote:is that your analysis of the above statement.
since when has akinci asked for veto on everything?


That is how Akinci and Turkey interpret the definition of “political equality“, isn‘t it?

If it wasn‘t and they interpreted as being “one man one vote“, there would have been a settlement long time ago, no? :roll:

you are talking out of your ass again. one man one vote is not the only way to have political equality. half the world does not have it. they have a federal structure and the federal governments have political equality.

one man one vote is a disaster where ever it exists espceially when there is at least two communities and one is larger than the other. ideal example is not far away. terggy has one man one vote and surely you can see how it can be used to oppress the smaller community. it also happens in every country in the world. when there is multiple communities in a country the only true democracy is a federal structure. it works all over the world and it can work in cyprus. instead you are supporting an idea supported by fascists even though you know it will not be accpetable and will consolidate the division, either two states or another vialet of terggy. what kind of a tc are you. no dont answer becasue your lunacy does not allow you to use logic.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:34 pm

In a federal system, there can be also political equality of each state, but not political equality of each community. In the EU, you need to accept EU values to have a setlement, including the 4 freedoms.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Lordo » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:56 pm

Kikapu wrote:In a federal system, there can be also political equality of each state, but not political equality of each community. In the EU, you need to accept EU values to have a setlement, including the 4 freedoms.

of course we accept the 4 freedoms. any gc who has the balls to live in the north is welcome with open arms. we will need them when the fight starts with the gacos

but i think you will find anastasiades has gone back on his word and no longer supports bbf with equality for the states and certainly objects to a tc president.

go figure.

so you support bbf so long as we have 4 freedoms right. excellent. the best news i have heard all day.

and of course the 4 freedoms apply to all trnc passport holders right.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:16 pm

Of course, anyone living in each state would also have the right to run for office, regadless of their ethnicity.

One man one vote is practiced in democratic countries, but they vote for political parties they associate with and not based on the ethnicity, otherwise there would only be one TC party in the north and one GC party in the south. That is not the case today nor in the future.
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