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Re: Political equality

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:02 pm

Kikapu wrote:Who said that enosis has been the desire for the GCs since 1974? :roll:

you clearly do not understand what is going on. earlier you said i did not respond your question, so did you not understand it or what?

did the groc not pass a law just recently to remind school children on the pretend plebecite of 1950 about enosis and the two books outside the churges. if that is not a desire of enosis i fail to see what is.

and of course there is the law passed in 1967 in parliament. has that ever been removed.

you really have tunnel vision my friend. wakey wakey and smell the bullcrap all round you.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:07 pm

Oceanside50 wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/02/10/akincis-idea-of-political-equality-equates-to-political-inequality-president-says/
According to Anastasiades:

But if by ‘political equality’ he means a positive vote for every decision of the central government or any other institutional structure, then I am sorry to say, this is not political equality, but it creates political inequality for the reason that it will allow one community to impose itself on the other.”

Can someone analyze this?


It’s pure propaganda in my opinion. In this BBF all three governments will be equal, which means there is no central government supremacy like they have in America. The central govt in Cyprus will have limited jurisdiction, federal taxation, passports, foreign policy, preservation of federal lands, federal police.. 99% of all decisions imposed on Cypriot citizens will be enacted by the state govt, the central and EU regulations will have the remaining 1%jurisdiction. Where does Akinci see one community imposing on the other?

gavole which bit do you find difficult to understand.
1. there will be two levels of government, federal and state.
2. each state will be able to run its own affairs without interference from the other
3. each state has to adhere to federal rules agreed at the begining and ammended from their on by the two communities. becasue the federal level is equal only changes agreed by both sides will pass. it really is not rocket science. you don't like it, take your part of cyprus and piss off to griik lands.

thelis na sou da ghafo ellliniga gavole mavrolon naminoun basdin kellesu re xero djehalo.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:43 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Another UN resolution. This one states clearly there must be tools or safeguards.

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was it not about this time where gc leadership refused to sit in the same room as tcs to negotiate. was it also not about this time that they were offered marash to just sit in the same room with no strings attached and still refused it.

what happened in 1990 was in 1990. what happened in february 2014 and since surely is what applies.

you gcs are afraid of your own shadows.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Sotos » Mon Feb 18, 2019 3:06 pm

each state will be able to run its own affairs without interference from the other


So what are you going to give us in return for keeping you in EU, giving you a share of our natural gas, and saving you from being assimilated by an Islamic State?

Maybe we should make a deal directly with Turkey. They return part of the territory and we give them north Cyprus along with the Turkish minority. Say goodbye to your RoC citizenship and EU passports and hope your daughters will like the burka fashion which will be the next big thing in Turkey in a few years.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Oceanside50 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 4:37 pm

Lordo wrote:
Oceanside50 wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:https://cyprus-mail.com/2019/02/10/akincis-idea-of-political-equality-equates-to-political-inequality-president-says/
According to Anastasiades:

But if by ‘political equality’ he means a positive vote for every decision of the central government or any other institutional structure, then I am sorry to say, this is not political equality, but it creates political inequality for the reason that it will allow one community to impose itself on the other.”

Can someone analyze this?


It’s pure propaganda in my opinion. In this BBF all three governments will be equal, which means there is no central government supremacy like they have in America. The central govt in Cyprus will have limited jurisdiction, federal taxation, passports, foreign policy, preservation of federal lands, federal police.. 99% of all decisions imposed on Cypriot citizens will be enacted by the state govt, the central and EU regulations will have the remaining 1%jurisdiction. Where does Akinci see one community imposing on the other?

gavole which bit do you find difficult to understand.
1. there will be two levels of government, federal and state.
2. each state will be able to run its own affairs without interference from the other
3. each state has to adhere to federal rules agreed at the begining and ammended from their on by the two communities. becasue the federal level is equal only changes agreed by both sides will pass. it really is not rocket science. you don't like it, take your part of cyprus and piss off to griik lands.

thelis na sou da ghafo ellliniga gavole mavrolon naminoun basdin kellesu re xero djehalo.


What’s up koLordo,

Why should a majority agree that a 10% minority have equal say in government? I don’t understand the logic of going from a democratic system to what the tc want?
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Re: Political equality

Postby kurupetos » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:44 pm

Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Another UN resolution. This one states clearly there must be tools or safeguards.

Political equality para11.PNG

was it not about this time where gc leadership refused to sit in the same room as tcs to negotiate. was it also not about this time that they were offered marash to just sit in the same room with no strings attached and still refused it.

what happened in 1990 was in 1990. what happened in february 2014 and since surely is what applies.

you gcs are afraid of your own shadows.

Your mouth is filthier than your ass... :!:
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Re: Political equality

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:54 pm

Sotos wrote:
each state will be able to run its own affairs without interference from the other


So what are you going to give us in return for keeping you in EU, giving you a share of our natural gas, and saving you from being assimilated by an Islamic State?

Maybe we should make a deal directly with Turkey. They return part of the territory and we give them north Cyprus along with the Turkish minority. Say goodbye to your RoC citizenship and EU passports and hope your daughters will like the burka fashion which will be the next big thing in Turkey in a few years.

who said anything about you keeping us in the eu. i don't know if you realise but tcs are already eu citizens and don't need any help from you or anything else.
you can make a deal with terggy any time you like but it will not involve trnc in any shape or form. you will find out though that dealing with terggy is like getting a loan from a loanshark. you will pay for the rest of your life and still be in debt when you die.

i would like to see that day you can withdaw the citizenship of the tcs from roc and eu. i don't know if you realise but you cannot make a person stateless, it is against international law. not that you have any respect for international law. the way you delay 15,000 tc children from their zitizenship is as disgusting as all the comments you and the likes of you make on this forum. why don't you bugger off to griiis you traitorous swine
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Re: Political equality

Postby Lordo » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:55 pm

kurupetos wrote:
Lordo wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Another UN resolution. This one states clearly there must be tools or safeguards.

Political equality para11.PNG

was it not about this time where gc leadership refused to sit in the same room as tcs to negotiate. was it also not about this time that they were offered marash to just sit in the same room with no strings attached and still refused it.

what happened in 1990 was in 1990. what happened in february 2014 and since surely is what applies.

you gcs are afraid of your own shadows.

Your mouth is filthier than your ass... :!:

you what? i will have you know i brush my teet once a year whether i need to or not and use domestos as mouth wash too. i bet you use your toilet brush to brush your teeth wif like. you know what i mean.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Sotos » Mon Feb 18, 2019 9:55 pm

Lordo wrote:
Sotos wrote:
each state will be able to run its own affairs without interference from the other


So what are you going to give us in return for keeping you in EU, giving you a share of our natural gas, and saving you from being assimilated by an Islamic State?

Maybe we should make a deal directly with Turkey. They return part of the territory and we give them north Cyprus along with the Turkish minority. Say goodbye to your RoC citizenship and EU passports and hope your daughters will like the burka fashion which will be the next big thing in Turkey in a few years.

who said anything about you keeping us in the eu. i don't know if you realise but tcs are already eu citizens and don't need any help from you or anything else.
you can make a deal with terggy any time you like but it will not involve trnc in any shape or form. you will find out though that dealing with terggy is like getting a loan from a loanshark. you will pay for the rest of your life and still be in debt when you die.

i would like to see that day you can withdaw the citizenship of the tcs from roc and eu. i don't know if you realise but you cannot make a person stateless, it is against international law. not that you have any respect for international law. the way you delay 15,000 tc children from their zitizenship is as disgusting as all the comments you and the likes of you make on this forum. why don't you bugger off to griiis you traitorous swine


You will be citizens of Turkey, not stateless. Turkey will surely like that deal, for us it will be less bad than the BBF partition that you want, and what you think doesn't count as you are nobodies.

Time to choose Lordo. Do you want to be an 18% minority of EU Cyprus, or a 0.15% minority of Islamic Turkey. Those are your only 2 options, and the earlier you realize it the better for you.
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Re: Political equality

Postby Oceanside50 » Mon Feb 18, 2019 10:04 pm

KoLordo what are your arguments for political equality and veto in the central government?
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