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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Sep 15, 2019 7:18 pm

...i thought this might interest aviation fans; what is in essence the F-16.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PMnlnqRex4

...the Avro Arrow, with its demise, in effect led to America's dominance over the industry (worldwide) as a whole. Sad to say American know how did not choose to compete 'fairly', by designing a better aircraft; so the story goes...

...and given the state of politics today, what with the Hauwei issue, it is not hard to believe that American primacy is simply being outpaced by the same ambitions elsewhere, again.

...being on top, as Boeing is, is not easy; that much can be said.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby repulsewarrior » Tue Sep 24, 2019 12:10 am

...something more on Boeing,

https://newrepublic.com/article/154944/ ... revolution

...costs, an issue of managing them, balancing (absolute) safety to the benefit of calculating risk.

...not just a problem at Boeing i suspect, but endemic to American Industry, what with their total supremacy in such cases, a willingness to compromise on their mission, still the safest for example, not as safe as it could be.

...Boeing will have to suffer the consequences of these disasters for a long time; an issue of confidence: what are they building for profit, their best?
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Sep 24, 2019 11:44 am

repulsewarrior wrote:...something more on Boeing,

https://newrepublic.com/article/154944/ ... revolution

...costs, an issue of managing them, balancing (absolute) safety to the benefit of calculating risk.

...not just a problem at Boeing i suspect, but endemic to American Industry, what with their total supremacy in such cases, a willingness to compromise on their mission, still the safest for example, not as safe as it could be.

...Boeing will have to suffer the consequences of these disasters for a long time; an issue of confidence: what are they building for profit, their best?



A fascinating read, thank you.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Oct 11, 2019 12:13 am

...wow wee, for all you airplane buffs,

NASA takes delivery of first all-electric experimental aircraft

http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/NASA_ ... t_999.html
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby repulsewarrior » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:28 am

...more news; about blame.

https://www.dw.com/en/boeing-and-faa-at ... newsletter

...the FAA allowed the plane to fly, yet they did not fully understand it.

...Boeing withheld information.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:28 pm

Boeing 737 Max Lion Air crash caused by series of failures https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50177788

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Lordo » Fri Oct 25, 2019 1:55 pm

there are two main problems with the max. it was fitted with a sensor which is supposed to aid the pilot and even the pilot's manual control to knock it out to take control was controlled by this sensor. so when it went wrong it would not allow the pilot to take control. this is refred to as a single point of failure and in aircraft industry it is against regulation. clearly the company did not only do somthing which is against regulation it also installed a sensor without testing it properly or it fiddled the results so it passed. the second issue is why the regultors allowd such a thing to happen. i suspect becasue the regulators are in the pockets of the company. nothing unusual there.

how long are you going to discuss this very simple issue. now that it has been seen not to work all they have to do if they can is reverse the controls so if the pilot wishes to take contro it should be allowed to do so under any circumstances.

it really is not rocket science but never the less it is about these metal birds that fly in the air. i will grant you that.
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Londonrake » Wed Nov 06, 2019 7:16 am

Boeing whistleblower raises doubts over 787 oxygen system https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50293927

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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Nov 06, 2019 5:57 pm

And now the earlier 737NG is suffering from cracks where the wings attach to the body in a structure popularly called the "pickle fork" .

So far at least Three Ryan Air planes grounded for repairs - they are seemingly older planes - 15YO plus with greater than 30000 flight cycles but it appears Quantas may have younger planes with only about 27000 flight cycles and they are urgently checking or have already checked all planes with more than 22600 cycles. Of 1000 planes checked in total, about 50 or 0.5% have been found with cracks.

The good news is that the procedures have worked to find the problems of cracking before it has caused an accident, unlike the MAX where the system seemingly totally failed...
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Re: Boeing 737 MAX+

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Nov 06, 2019 6:55 pm

Tough shit if you happen to be flying in one of the 50 when things go pear shaped!

Or is that what is referred to as an 'acceptable risk' ? :roll:

I believe the current catch phrase is "If it's a Boeing then I ain't going!" ........ :lol: :lol:
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