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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Maximus » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:39 pm

Erdogan himself, has now started to recognize that turkey is probably going to default on its sovereign debt.

True to form though, it’s a foreign conspiracy trying to force him to go cap in hand to the IMF.

He baked this awful cake and now he will force feed it to the population.

As Mugabe said - let them eat cake!

Let’s see how long they will last on this diet before he goes underground to his panic room. Where he will command his minions to fight his battles.

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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Mustiejodu » Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:46 pm

I have read every comment made by you Turk bashers. Hatred comes in different shapes and forms but all ways it’s negative and exaggerated. I find it interesting how you all literally come in your pants just pleasuring yourselves on anything negative that you perceive to be negatively affecting turkey. If you really saw TC as your compatriots you would have redirected your energy to help promote better living not sanctions to the TC in the north and put aside the politics. If they are your true partners in Cyprus then stop playing politics.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:25 pm

...indeed, Cypriots with roots in the occupied north know full well who are the "Turks", and, who are the "Greeks". Like Turks, these Greeks do not forget who, in the end paid the ultimate price, at "their" hands.

This is the Problem that festers in Turkey, ripping it apart, "Turkishness", as in Cyprus. The two are inter-linked, simply because Turkey has taken it to be their "National" issue. One Cyprus, like One Turkey, should not be hard to understand. One hopes that in Cyprus, the solution is found, so that Turks, not "Turks", in Cyprus and Turkey may fear no more.

...indeed, one may call me a "Turk" basher, and i am Greek, but no "Greek"; can you say, i am Turkish, i am Cypriot, no "Turk"?
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Maximus » Thu Jun 20, 2019 10:58 am

Mustiejodu wrote:I have read every comment made by you Turk bashers. Hatred comes in different shapes and forms but all ways it’s negative and exaggerated. I find it interesting how you all literally come in your pants just pleasuring yourselves on anything negative that you perceive to be negatively affecting turkey. If you really saw TC as your compatriots you would have redirected your energy to help promote better living not sanctions to the TC in the north and put aside the politics. If they are your true partners in Cyprus then stop playing politics.


Your community should lead the way and implement in the north what your community are trying to force the gc to accept.

If the gc are your partners and compatriots and you want to share, then;

The tc administration should invite a delegation of gc ministers to share all decision making in the north. Plus about 50k gc should return to their homes that were stolen from them in 1974. to show that you can live with them in peace.

You should give the gc delegation of ministers a veto in all the occupied areas affairs and decision making plus a 70% share of everything.

Show the world that your way can work for about 10 years and that the Turkish army can guarantee the peace.

The north should be a petri dish for your ideas. Then The Turkish army can be phased out and then we will see about the rest.

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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby B25 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:06 am

Mustiejodu wrote:I have read every comment made by you Turk bashers. Hatred comes in different shapes and forms but all ways it’s negative and exaggerated. I find it interesting how you all literally come in your pants just pleasuring yourselves on anything negative that you perceive to be negatively affecting turkey. If you really saw TC as your compatriots you would have redirected your energy to help promote better living not sanctions to the TC in the north and put aside the politics. If they are your true partners in Cyprus then stop playing politics.


Man this is so funny, and the audacity, typical Turk that expects everything.

So what you are say is like:

You come to my home, beat me up, rape my wife, kill my kids and take my home. Then later you expect me to come clean and redecorate my home so that you can have 'Better Living Conditions'. You are off your F head head mate, change your job to comedian. Turkey deserves all the bashing she gets in fact it would make me very happy if someone actually blew the fucker up all together so the world can be a better place. No one likes this shit hole called Turkey, she has no neighbours on good terms, is genocidal, murderous and even treats her own kind like shit in prison and you expect us to lay roses for her?? You are having a f laugh!
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Lordo » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:09 pm

B25 wrote:
Mustiejodu wrote:I have read every comment made by you Turk bashers. Hatred comes in different shapes and forms but all ways it’s negative and exaggerated. I find it interesting how you all literally come in your pants just pleasuring yourselves on anything negative that you perceive to be negatively affecting turkey. If you really saw TC as your compatriots you would have redirected your energy to help promote better living not sanctions to the TC in the north and put aside the politics. If they are your true partners in Cyprus then stop playing politics.


Man this is so funny, and the audacity, typical Turk that expects everything.

So what you are say is like:

You come to my home, beat me up, rape my wife, kill my kids and take my home. Then later you expect me to come clean and redecorate my home so that you can have 'Better Living Conditions'. You are off your F head head mate, change your job to comedian. Turkey deserves all the bashing she gets in fact it would make me very happy if someone actually blew the fucker up all together so the world can be a better place. No one likes this shit hole called Turkey, she has no neighbours on good terms, is genocidal, murderous and even treats her own kind like shit in prison and you expect us to lay roses for her?? You are having a f laugh!

i can only wish for your obtuse view of life. so there was no problems before, you did not attack and kill rape tc women and children, you did not take tc homes or farms or farm anaimals, you were living a decent life and those nasty terggs came and did all that to you. i am ashamed of being associated with such animals and not be associated with such decent human beings like you who better would not melt in your mouths.

you asshole.

there is no hope for you or the likes of you. if you were a horse you would be put down to save you from the pain you are suffering.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Maximus » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:43 pm

I dont think anyone wants violence or a war over some gas Lordo. (except, it seems, Turkey and the "TRnC")

B25's comments are a result of his frustration and Turkish aggression. He can speak for himself though.

You on the other hand are not innocent when it comes to making threats on this forum (supporting and egging turkey on). Your leadership, along with Turkey, do it at the highest levels as matter of policy when things are not going their way..

Perhaps, you would consider what I have posted above.

GC veto in the occupied areas, plus a 70% share of everything, plus a sizable chunk of GC's returning to their homes.

Why doesnt Turkey and your leadership show the world that what you demand of others, you are willing to give them.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Lordo » Thu Jun 20, 2019 4:52 pm

I have never egged on anybody for war, i am simply pointing out that your activities of drilling for gas without participation of the tcs you are asking for trouble. un has told you you cannot extract gas without an agreement and christofias agreed with talat on the matter and it is recorded as such in the un. in the meantime you have adopted a cavaliar atitude on the matter deciding to go alone without a peace agreement as if it is only your concern and nobody else matters. i am simply pointing out that you cannot and will not be allowed to do so either and if you do terggy will use it to attack you. where is the threat you are talking about. i have not wished it and am not looking for it but i can see it clear as daylight.
gc will not have veto in the north under any circumstances but the north has be run under federal rules and cannot break the federal rules either. what are you talking about 70% of what? tcs want 30% or 28% or what ever percentage is agreed reagrding the land mass of each state after fair and equitable exchange of properties are done as well as the government land belonging to the tc federal government. i do not agree with your idea sizeable chunk of gcs, it should be every gc who wishes to return should be able to return. but there has to be a formula like envisaged in the 2004 plan where we do not make people to be a refugee for the 4th time. there has to be a formula applied like the one eu agreed on as to the definition of what is a home and what is a house. then there is no issue. any gc brave enough to wish to live in the north amongs our beloved gacos they are welcome all day long. when push comes to shove we will need them to help us.

as to terggy, i don't give a shit what terggy wants or is willing to give. if you are looking for people to blame then you can blame anastasiades and papadopoullos. instead of meeting akinci and talat they met ozersay and dengtash junior. what does that tell you about your leadership? they are taking you for a ride and fooling you right before your eyes telling you one thing but actually aiming for a two state solution. there is one leader today who wants a united country and that's akinci, your mr nasty is looking for a two state solution.

but hey when you are used to be growing like a mushroom more bull shit is what you need.
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Maximus » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:19 pm

You are the biggest Turkish supporter on this forum.

I give you the benefit of the doubt though that you dont want to see a war. But your leadership, in cahoots with Turkey make implied or direct threats to the GC's. You cant deny it, this is very different to persons on a forum.

The fact of the matter is, your community opposed and always opposes anything the GC's want or do and they do it behind the Turkish army. It is only because of the Turkish army that your politicos are brazen and think they can violate other peoples human rights and keep their property hostage to Turkish settlers. Its as if the only purpose of your communities existence is to oppose and impede Cyprus development and drag her backwards in to Turkeys sphere of influence. Who in their right mind would agree to that with all that goes on there and in the occupied areas?.

All that about Stassi meeting Oversay is being blown out of proportion. It was a Turkish columnist that wrote it and for the reasons for the meeting, to discuss a two state solution. Maybe Ozersay did talk about it but can Stassi stop him talking about it? The Turkish columnist then sensationalizes it and sprinkles in a pinch of falsehoods, like Stassi promised it and people like you think they are going to get what they always wanted. AKEL have latched on to that for their own political gain now. Its fake news in my opinion, to give you guys and Turks a diversion from the negative news and situation turkey is creating, and her economy. There wasn't a problem when Neph met with oversay for an informal dinner in the occupied areas was there. No fuss there.....

The RoC's leaders have always said that any revenues from the natural resources are for Cypriot citizens. But, first your leadership wanted to stop the development, then they wanted to control it with Turkey pulling the strings, now your leadership is trying to steel it. The end result, your leadership is giving Cyprus's natural resources to Turkey, just like the land mass in the north. All of which is illegal.

The RoC expects a fair, just and viable solution to the Cyprus problem, not help fund the occupation while the TC continue their belligerence towards the GC.

Anyway, Turkey has no rights and neither do the TC unless they dismantle the TRNC and drop their facist demands. You cant have your cake and eat it too.

It looks like the EU is going to implement legal, political, economic and diplomatic restrictive measures (sanctions) against Turkey. WHY? because " the EPP Group has discussed Turkish illegal actions in Cyprus’ Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ) which constitute a flagrant violation of Cyprus` sovereign rights stemming from international and EU law”.

The EPP also states that “Turkey’s illegal activities also adversely affect the EU`s goal of energy security and diversification”.

https://in-cyprus.com/%CE%B5pp-group-in ... on-turkey/
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Re: EU; that's gotta hurt. Turkey unhappy.

Postby Lordo » Thu Jun 20, 2019 5:28 pm

you really are beyond stupid. akinci and talat before him stuck their neck out and opposed terggish position to try to accomodate gc wishes for a bbf. it was made plain in the begining that each side will not veto the other sides wishes so long as it was withing the specs of the federal structure. the terggish army would eventually withdraw and the terggish guarantee would also be replaced with the implementation plan agreed with the un. and there you are seing things in what i call blue tinted glasses. you be greek if you want to be but you will not take tcs with you under any circumstances. get that into your thick scull. tcs have always had and will allways have the right to determine thier own future. this is the meaning of bbf. if your intention is to veto the north then you are barking up the wrong tree. it will not happen.
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