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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:06 am

Paphitis wrote:Treatment of Palestinians.

they have representatives as Israeli Citizens in the Knesset. They have human rights and western style freedoms.

Mmmm...The Israelis don't look as bad as the Mullah's do when it comes to treatment.

Now, let's look at the flip side if Hamas or Hestikboula win. Israelis driven into the Mediterranean. :lol:


Driven into the Med? You mean like the Zionists are trying to do in Gaza to the Palestinians? :x

What a load of rubbish you spout! You know absolutely nothing!

So they have MP's in the Knesset .... but they also have laws that very much limit the powers of non-Jews whether they are in the Knesset or not. Arab Israeli's are treated as second class citizens:

‘Nation State Law 1 states that “the right to exercise national self-determination” in Israel is “unique to the Jewish people.” Arabs are not Jews! If the Arabs ever managed to become a majority in the Knesset, which would not be allowed to happen anyway, ..... they would have no right to self determination! Arab votes count for nothing when it comes to determining the future direction of Israel it is all determined by a Zionist dominated Government and a leader in Netanyahu almost as bad as the leaders were in Nazi Germany.[/b]

Israel does not have secular law, it is basically Jewish law. Iran allows most religions. There are something like 13 Synagogues in Tehran alone, 8 Jewish schools, several Jewish hospitals, there are no Ghettos and ALL citizens are treated equally. Not so in Israel.

Israeli’s have 'antisemitic' laws instead of blasphemy law and antisemitism is not limited to just religious criticism as anti-Semitism is. There are anti-Semitism laws in Iran and the rights of Jews are protected. Iranian Jews have been in Persia for 2.700 years as such they truly are Jews whose origins are close to the original 12 tribes of Israel ........ most Jews in Israel are Ashkenazim from Eastern Europe and most have been in the region 70 Years or less. They are imposters and NOT from the ME at all. Iran has the largest population of Jews, in the ME, outside of Israel. IMO: Hence the animosity Israel has toward Iran. :roll:

Both Hammas and Hezbollah were created to oppose Israeli aggression. Zionist aggression came first ...... as Netanyahu keeps telling the World 'Israel has the right to self defence.' ...... I've got news for him ..... even more so do the Arabs/Palestinians against illegal occupiers of their stolen lands.
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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Aug 15, 2019 7:19 am

Humanist1 wrote:Seriously I cannot see the difference between what Hitler did and what the Israelis are doing today to the palestinian people and I don’t care if I am barred from visiting their ruthless Country. I cannot stand jewish behaviour toward poor people of Palestine.


There is little difference, the only thing missing in Israel is the gas chambers and the ovens! The philosophy of the Zionists is almost identical to that of the Nazi's.

You are conflating Jews with Zionists. Judaism and Zionism are not the same thing at all!

It is not the Jews that should be blamed, it is Zionists! It is acts against the Palestinians by the Zionists Government of Israel that is rightly questioned BUT, the Zionists have bent anti-Semitism legislation so that it gives a blanket cover for any criticism of Israel, Zionists, IDF, Netanyahu ...... any thing remotely Israeli in connotation. They did that by neatly rewording the law and replacing anti-Semitism with antisemitism i.e. it is no longer a law protecting Judaism ......... but protecting Zionisn as well!
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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 10:36 am

Why give them seats in The Knesset then?
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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Aug 15, 2019 11:20 am

Paphitis wrote:Why give them seats in The Knesset then?


I should think to keep the Arab Israeli's quiet! But if they held ALL the seats bar say two Jewish members, and wanted to reverse the right to return restriction on the Palestinians ........ the Jewish vote would carry the decision ....... not the majority vote! So Israel is NOT a parliamentary democracy ..... because any vote is subjective! :roll:
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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:24 pm

So let me get this straight!

they keep them quiet by given them a voice in Parliament and respecting their Human Rights and get them to participate in their democracy?

mmmmm
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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Londonrake » Thu Aug 15, 2019 12:51 pm

Assad has an easier way of keeping them quiet.
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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:20 pm

Paphitis wrote:So let me get this straight!

they keep them quiet by given them a voice in Parliament and respecting their Human Rights and get them to participate in their democracy?

mmmmm


Homes Demolished in Israel and Palestine ......... so this is a demonstration of respect for human rights then? :roll:

0 Israeli homes have been demolished by Palestinians, and over 48,488 Palestinian homes have been demolished by Israel since 1967 and this is just deliberate demolition not those that were destroyed in Israeli military attacks on Gaza.

"Since 1967, over 48,000 Palestinian homes and other structures (livestock pens and fencing for example) crucial for a family’s livelihood, have been demolished in the Occupied Palestinian Territories (OPT), including East Jerusalem. It is impossible to know how many homes exactly because the Israeli authorities only report on the demolition of "structures," which may be homes or may be other structures. When a seven-story apartment building is demolished containing more than 20 housing units, that is considered only one demolition. Some homes are as yet incomplete when they are demolished, but the financial loss to families (70% of the Palestinians live below the poverty line, on less than $2 a day), plus the inability to obtain decent and adequate housing, constitutes a fundamental violation of tens of thousands of people to shelter."

https://ifamericansknew.org/stat/homes.html

How many Jewish Israeli’s did this happen to? Answer = NONE! and this is just one example of complete disrespect for Palestinian/Arab human rights. Their freely and democratically elected Arab MP's could do nothing to stop it. You don’t know the meaning of Human Rights! :x
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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:23 pm

Takes 2 to tango.

The world has been outraged with the settlements in the West Bank, but the other side doesn't want to or seems to not be interested in negotiating.

They are also firing rockets from the strip.

And yet, LR raises a very good point. Israel, is not even close to the methods and war crimes of assad which you support.

therefore, there is nothing to discuss here. And yes, israel gives them a voice in their Parliament and they probably have more rights under the israeli System than anyone under Hamas or Hestiboula!
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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Robin Hood » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:32 pm

Londonrake wrote:Assad has an easier way of keeping them quiet.


I thought the thread was Israel/Palestine? Silly me! :roll:

You never miss an opportunity do you, to throw the thread off track when I post an inconvenient fact that shows Paphitis is full of shit! He has no response so he then parrots you ..... do you pay him or is he really that easily fooled?
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Re: Israel/Palestine .......

Postby Paphitis » Thu Aug 15, 2019 4:35 pm

It's all inter related and your hypocrisy knows no bounds and needs to be highlighted in a thread such as this one.

You are applying 2 standards. And, on top of that you are supportive of a leader that is most definitely responsible for war crimes against his own people including the use of chemical warfare.

Israel doesn't do that and even respects the Palestinians with suffrage and representation within the Knesset so I know where I would rather be.
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