Londonrake wrote:Robin Hood wrote:Londonrake wrote:Assad has an easier way of keeping them quiet.
I thought the thread was Israel/Palestine? Silly me!
You never miss an opportunity do you, to throw the thread off track when I post an inconvenient fact that shows Paphitis is full of shit! He has no response so he then parrots you ..... do you pay him or is he really that easily fooled?
What a hypocrite! Now, there’s a surprise. For nearly 10 years now, whenever you’ve had to face a tricky point, your first reaction has invariably been to rush off around the planet, looking for “equivalence”, rather than confront the issue. North Korea explodes a nuke. Rush, rush “Oh look what I’ve found, the US tested a conventional trigger for their missiles (in a bottomless Nevada pit) last week. See, equivalence!”
Last time I looked, Syria was a neighbour of Israel. Comparisons between the countries political systems are relevant and valid. Assad has been responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of his own people. Literally millions have fled his dictatorship, effectively driven out. Happily watched by your pin up boy as they go off to destabilize Europe. A situation you’ve seemed entirely comfortable with and in fact have oft defended. Yes, it’s rank hypocrisy on your part to talk piously about your perception of deficiencies in the Knesset, whilst defending the butchering tyrant next door’s regime.
Paphitis speaks for himself. The only thing we really have in common is years of reading and taking issue with your efforts. I’ve said it before but you really should be more grateful. The vast majority of your stuff would have effectively been stillborn but for our help.
My position on the Israeli/Palestinian issue is exactly the same as yours.
I can be and regularly am very critical of Israel as I support the 2 State solution. I do not support or agree with the construction of Israeli settlements in the West Bank.
But, I also understand Israel's position with regard to Hamaz and Hezbollah. I can also see their point of view when they point the finger to these terrorist organizations and rightly claim that they are in fact not interested in any settlement and that their maximalist positions are a threat to the security of their State. They are indeed 100% correct and this argument gives Israel a LOT of legitimacy.
From a completely balanced point of view, Israel seems to be the State that also applies the law equally unlike of course the other side. One would wonder what would happen to the Jews of Hezbollah or Hamaz suddenly took over. Probably be curtains for them. The Israeli State however, generally tries to leave them alone, allows them the right of suffrage, and even allows them a voice in the Knesset. Can an Israeli passport holder visit the United Arab Emirates? They can't. I say that because when you go to Israel, the Israeli's add a page to your passport to stamp your entry because of the UAE Customs see the Israeli Ministry of Interior stamp, they will forbid you entry so it is very clear here which side is being more recalcitrant and unhelpful.
As I said, I do not support the settlements and never have. I support a 2 State Solution and the right of the Palestinians to form their own State under a comprehensive settlement with Israel. The PLO and Israel actually came very close until Hamaz and Hezbollah sabotaged and scuttled the entire effort.
It should be very clear here exactly WHO is responsible - Hamaz and Hezbollah from Iran.
Israel is also very correct in waging its war against Hezbollah in Syria. Their stance should be completely understood and respected considering the fact that the entire Hezbollah manifesto revolves around the complete destruction of Israel.
Again, what is lacking in this forum is a healthy pinch of perspective and balance. I provide that for the outside world without blowing my own trumpet but I consider my views to be well balanced, intelligent and well informed. I am willing to learn from others but when you are faced with completely ludicrous and hysterical posts about Israel that are uninformed and not well researched but instead spout a particular ideology which is neither correct and offers little perspective, then I try to counter and balance it out.
Now compare my views about Israel which is a lot more conciliatory towards the Palestinians than you think with the likes of Robin Hood's views on Ukraine and Syria.
Robin Hood is a hypocrite. I am no such thing. I will call a spade a spade. I am sorry but I call it the way I see it and I research as well because I do in fact take a huge interests in matters such as these.
Also whilst comparing my views against the likes of Robin Hood and Humanist who lack perspective and balance but instead apply a narrative and ideology (which is completely wrong), also compare Israel's Human Rights record and the way it treats its citizens to the likes of Assad's Syria, or Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Egypt and so on. Which country would you prefer to live in?
A bit like the pub test. Who would you rather have a beer with?
Would you prefer to have a beer with Corbyn or BOJO? Me, I would love to have a beer with BOJO. The chap is clearly a hoot!
Would you prefer to have a beer with Bernie or Trump? For me, I would have a beer with Trump because he is a lot more interesting and honest.
Once you become an ideologue like Robin Hood is, you have completely lost your soul and authority as you have foregone the virtue of applying fairness and the rule of law in any situation such as these. You can't on one hand jump on your high horse with respect to the Israeli/Palestinian question and in your next breadth support genocide and ethnic cleansing and chemical warfare by Assad forces in Syria.
Robin Hood is a lightweight and I say this not because he isn't relentless and will not continue to come at you with utter ideologically based nonsense until you give up, but it's because he doesn't have an argument. Reasonable people know and understand he spread a narrative and ideology which is hypocritical. It's the same with get Real. He is another lightweight. basically because their ideology showcases their very hypocrisy and double standard.
Others like yourself are much harder work, because you can see both sides of the coin. You do not ignore the other side in order to peddle a narrative.
BTW, the Syrian Detainees Report has not been debunked. In fact, investigators have found that the Caesar Report to be very credible and a UN Resolition was passed with regard to this report and the 11,000 missing prisoners. Your mate, is citing his typical non credible sources which claim that the Caesar Report was a fabrication.
https://reliefweb.int/report/world/secu ... ring-armedhttps://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35521801https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/mi ... ort-syria/ENFORCED DISAPPEARANCES
Syrian security forces held thousands of detainees without trial, often in conditions that amounted to enforced disappearance. Tens of thousands of people remained disappeared, the majority since 2011. They included peaceful activists, humanitarian workers, lawyers, journalists, peaceful critics and government opponents as well as individuals detained in place of relatives wanted by the authorities.
In May, the government disclosed the death of some of the disappeared by updating civil status records. For example, the relatives of brothers Yehya and Maen Sherbaj;i, who had received no information about their whereabouts or fate since they were forcibly disappeared in 2012, found out they were dead when the authorities updated the civil status records. In such cases, the authorities failed to provide the families with remains or information about the circumstances of the enforced disappearance and death.
as it shows it 
What's that word again? You really can't help yourself - can you? 
