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[Paphitis]

Paphitis:

We know why you have the view you do. I actually feel sorry for you because deep down I think I am talking to an old man who is deeply hurt. If I can help you, I literally would.

No .... you THINK you know and express your opinion about someone you have never even met! I need no sympathy from someone with your mental disability! BTW: Try not to speak for others, there are others who know me better than you do and I am sure are quite capable of drawing their own conclusions without your assistance.

You are a demented soul with a chip on your shoulder.

There are no chips on my shoulder and I am very far off being demented ......... that comment coming from someone as mentally deluded as you? Now that really is rich!

It’s actually quite fair enough to be pro Palestinian. Lots of us are but coming from you it’s a bit rich in that you sir have compromised your values and morality by supporting much bigger criminal elements around the globe than Israel which in comparison approaches more closely to the Mother Theresa side of the spectrum. You are in no position to point fingers at Israel.

I gave you a very short factual description of how Israel was created and how they have abused International Law, committed numerous war crimes and crimes against humanity and have replicated the Nazi’s excesses ever since. Of course my sympathies are with the Palestinians and I do not compromise my values to suit your rather rose coloured view of the situation in Israel/Palestine.

I support no 'criminal elements' as far as I am aware, maybe you would like to enlighten me?

Israel does not have a very nice reputation and is growing more disliked, the World over and by the day .... especially in the USA. That is a great shame because the Jewish people are regarded in the same context as Zionists, who just happen to be the root cause of ALL their problems of the past and those in the future, not the Jews.

You are an ideologue!

You may well be right but I can give reasons for my certainly left of centre ideological thinking and, believe it or not it starts from ..... ‘The creation of currency in the modern economy and the international banking system’ which you have previously demonstrated you know absolutely nothing about. If you don't know the basic cause(s) of a problem you will never understand what that problem is! That gives me a basic advantage over you.

Unlike you I am not a mindless ideologue who spouts just his opinion. I come to my ideological conclusions based on a broad consideration of available facts and the credibility of the sources. My sources are not as limited as yours so I gain a different perspective as I tend to see both sides of the story.

You need to establish your faith in humanity and smell the roses and even repent for the skullduggery you spout in your condoning of immense war crimes against humanity and in your eagerness to justify immense despair of literally millions of Sunnis who now have nothing but the clothes on their backs.

You are again correct in as much as I do not have a blind predetermined faith in humanity certainly when it is related to those that rule my life and the lives of billions of people on this planet. I could not give a shit for religion ........... any religion. The reason many of these Sunnis, and not just Sunnis but many others ethnic groups, are so deprived is because the US has tried to impose their ideology and so-called democracy on people around the World, who were not ready for it. It was forced upon them and it was all done for oil and other resources their countries have that the US covets. The US never intervenes unless there is something in it for them ......... remember that Trump call ; America First!

So thank you for your psychiatric assessment of me a subject about which you also seem to have little knowledge, but if I were you I would make sure your employers do not relate M****s with ‘Paphitis’ as you are very clearly mentally unstable.

How sad and miserable. Despite all your insults I would literally try and help you if I could. It’s very sad that an individual lose all hope in humanity and want to destroy our way of life.

As I said earlier. Fair enough that anyone would support the Palestinian cause but you are not in a position to do so in your current state.

Israel does not need to defend itself or its integrity. It’s human rights record speaks for itself and sets it apart from your little evil pets. You can’t drag Israel down in the quagmire.

You are literally in no mans land. You after all support war crimes and ethnic cleansing. There is nothing you can say to defend yourself but you can repent and you can fix yourself with a dose of perspective and maybe then you may find yourself in a position to point fingers!

You are correct that I do not know you. But I know plenty of people who do who all concur that you are a mixed up individual with a chip on your shoulder. Obviously, you have been hurt somewhere along the line. Very sad!

[Robin Hood]

Paphitis:

Israel does not need to defend itself or its integrity. It’s human rights record speaks for itself and sets it apart from your little evil pets.

Israel under Netanyahu and the Liqud Zionists Israel has has no integrity and as you correctly say their ‘human rights’ record, all 70+ UN resolutions for a start, does speak for them. You may regard their victims as evil but of course as Israel says ‘Every country has the right to self defence!’ As Israel occupies 45% of the land area of the Palestinian Territories on top of the 55% allotted in UN Res 181, the Palestiniansy actually have more right to defend themselves against the occupying forces, as the Israeli’s are both the illegal occupiers and the aggressor.

.You can’t drag Israel down in the quagmire.

I don’t have to do that, they are doing very well on that front without my help !
[quote]You are literally in no mans land. You after all support war crimes and ethnic cleansing. There is nothing you can say to defend yourself but you can repent and you can fix yourself with a dose of perspective and maybe then you may find yourself in a position to point fingers![/quote ]

Before entertaining us with more of your condescending and ill-informed opinion, I suggest you check up on a few facts. A good site which has a high accuracy and credibility rating, it will fill in the holes in your education reagarding The State of Israel:

https://ifamericansknew.org/

(I get updates every few days on current events in Israel, Gaza and the West bank and it keeps me well up to date! The site will also provide you with full and accurate details of the history of the conflict.)

I would also point out to you that this site is noted by the credibility checker as having bias ....... BUT through the content not the narrative as it covers all the history that the Zionists would prefer was not available to the American People. This is why you know so little about the subject !

[Paphitis]

Paphitis:

Israel does not need to defend itself or its integrity. It’s human rights record speaks for itself and sets it apart from your little evil pets.

Israel under Netanyahu and the Liqud Zionists Israel has has no integrity and as you correctly say their ‘human rights’ record, all 70+ UN resolutions for a start, does speak for them. You may regard their victims as evil but of course as Israel says ‘Every country has the right to self defence!’ As Israel occupies 45% of the land area of the Palestinian Territories on top of the 55% allotted in UN Res 181, the Palestiniansy actually have more right to defend themselves against the occupying forces, as the Israeli’s are both the illegal occupiers and the aggressor.

.You can’t drag Israel down in the quagmire.

I don’t have to do that, they are doing very well on that front without my help !

You are literally in no mans land. You after all support war crimes and ethnic cleansing. There is nothing you can say to defend yourself but you can repent and you can fix yourself with a dose of perspective and maybe then you may find yourself in a position to point fingers![/quote ]

Before entertaining us with more of your condescending and ill-informed opinion, I suggest you check up on a few facts. A good site which has a high accuracy and credibility rating, it will fill in the holes in your education reagarding The State of Israel:

https://ifamericansknew.org/

(I get updates every few days on current events in Israel, Gaza and the West bank and it keeps me well up to date! The site will also provide you with full and accurate details of the history of the conflict.)

I would also point out to you that this site is noted by the credibility checker as having bias ....... BUT through the content not the narrative as it covers all the history that the Zionists would prefer was not available to the American People. This is why you know so little about the subject !

Oh it has a lot more integrity than you and the Assad regime.

Once again, it has a seat among nations as an equal and it is a democracy with the rule of law,’liberalism and women’s rights and it gives a voice to the Arabs and the Palestinians within their Parliament. That speaks for itself.

It’s also an ally to Cyprus, NATO, the EU and the Western Workd. It engages with the world like any other country.

It is light years ahead of Syria, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.

Apply the pub test dude. The pub test never fails.

[Londonrake]

You talk a lot of self opinionated crap! What I posted was simple fact .... check it out.

To reply to almost anything you spout about is a complete waste of my time. Any sane person reading your posts would realise you are a mental case that suffers self opinionated delusions of grandeur just about as far away from reality as it is possible to get.

As always, it's odd - that you've never regarded that sort of post as "personal abuse" and in fact usually and amazingly believe that you are a "victim".

I am afraid that is the response I reserve for mental retards! So, you must obviously agree with him and his manic boasting to promote himself as a fount of all knowledge on any subject? Well he is learning from you! He is picking up all your phrases and buzz words like ...... HYPOCRISY!

I'm also afraid that anyone who gets involved in this sort of stuff with you will very quickly realise the truth in that particular "buzz word". You're simply the worst I've ever met. Like your personal abuse efforts though you seem to be blind to it.

Nothing personal to either of you but in these long, drawn out exchanges I tend to succumb to TLDR and let you slog it out. It does add weight to something I've said many times, although once again you appear not to be able to see it. If it weren't for Paphitis and myself you'd be leading a very lonely life in here. Dunno - maybe you'd prefer to just broadcast your thoughts to a silent, admiring congregation though?

[Robin Hood]

LR:
I started this thread with a post that I copied from another forum. I had my reasons! It was a description of how Israel’s IDF treats Palestinians when they decide to demolish their homes they build on their own land. So it appeared on here ‘Forum A’ and also the original site ‘Forum B’ and I was interested to see how each forum’s Israel/Palestine thread dealt with it as I contribute to both. There is a third ‘Forum C’ Which I follow but make no postings.

We know the structure and the main characters on ‘A’.

Forum B is a 80% UK/20% mainly US but also a couple of other nationalities. Their Israel/Palestine Thread has been going since Apr. 2006. Has had 32000+ views and 3100+ replies. I would guess that most of the UK posters are sympathetic toward the Palestinians and critical of Israel.

The US contributors are exactly the opposite! Pro-Israel and ant-Arab/Palestinian. The UK contributors are very level headed and willing to discuss .... except for two, both of whom claim to be Zionists and fervently believe Israel to be akin to a politically perfect, paradise on Earth that treats all its citizens, including Palestinians/Arabs with equality and with full respect for their human rights as'[i Israeli citizens'[/i], in their daily lives. This leads to some interesting exchanges. The contributions from the US members is remarkably similar to Paphitis rhetoric on here but with a bit less self promotion and self adulation, but they obviously derive their views from similar pro-Israel sources.

I am a constant .... YES? I do not change my views or rhetoric because it is a different forum. Reasonable to say ‘.....I am who I am’ and my views are consistent whether you agree with them or not.

There are a dozen or more Paphitis clones on Forum C and Patriots to man and any dissention is pounced upon and the transgressor driven off. But on Forum B, not once in those many years (13) has there been anyone remotely like you with your rather condescending and sarcastic approach, whether that is toward myself or any other member. So clearly it is not my posts that invoke your responses as they do not raise the same fervour on the other forum. So .... in my book the problem seems to be more the failure of your character, reasoning and your inability to discuss differences in an intelligent and adult fashion.

Yes you are correct about others backing off but it is often, as in this case, when either Paphis, followed by you, enter a discussion/exchange as it usually diverts almost immediately to something off thread and then others, who are quite content to just exchange views, then drift away as it deteriorates to a personal assault with me as the target. It hasn’t happened just the once or even several times it happens EVERY TIME.

Take a good look at this Israel/Palestine thread? Myself and Maximus exchange views; Paphits adds a one liner .... off-thread on page 2 and he then posts several replies each drifting further off the thread to his favourite subject ....HIMSELF and his opinions! By page three, in spite of me and Maximus exchanging quite respectful views, Paphitis is on a roller with Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria, Lebanon entering the thread. Toward the end of the page Humanist joins in the discussion and Paphitis is on the Third Reich rhetoric and puts Humanist in his place!

By page 4 Paphitis is pissing me off, and I point out to him where he is going wrong. Then, woken to the prospect of another disruption in the making, you have to get involved and expand the thread to include Assad ....... encompassing the usual sarcasm.

By the end of the page Paphitis intimates he has your support and starts to up-the-ante and fires-up to emulate your comments.

From the end of page 4 to this page it was all you and Ppaphits on the attack and with me as the punch bag having to defend my opinions against a tirade of ever more irrelevant, relentless and offensive posts from both of you. We are now at a point where the OP is is no more .... only the title, now meaningless, remains.

Maximus and Humanist ? Where are they? Long gone! But why? It can’t be because of me as, up until Paphitis decided to give us the dubious benefit of his opinions on just about everything, we had been having a very civil exchange of on-thread views. It deteriorated even further when you decided to ‘load-the-gun’ and get Paphitis to ‘pull-the-trigger’. He is just too gullible and simple minded to see that you are the catalyst. This happens to me only on this forum and a previous one that you were also a member of and only on threads you decide to infest. With others on other sites, even those where we disagree, it RARELY happens.

I think you should consider that ‘our’problem most probably has its in origins in ‘your’ problem ........ not in anything specific that I have done?

This thread is now dead RIP! Congratulations!

[Londonrake]

Most of your threads on this particular forum are - or would be - dead without inputs from myself or Paphitis. Paphitis and I are not working together. He has his views, I have mine. Because of our mutual dislike of your POVs they obviously frequently coincide. We rarely communicate off thread. On the vast majority of occasions when we have it's been discussions about mutual experiences in Australia.

If you don't like either of our posts the solution is simple.

You are though a person who's views are such that they attract "direct" answers. Your long experience of alienating people, having some leaving forums and many others simply deciding to avoid your obnoxious posts has surely shown you that? Despite, you've always seemed to maintain this odd positive perception of yourself. It's the complete opposite of reality though. Forum-wise you're one of nature's pariah

[Robin Hood]

Most of your threads on this particular forum are - or would be - dead without inputs from myself or Paphitis. Paphitis and I are not working together. He has his views, I have mine. Because of our mutual dislike of your POVs they obviously frequently coincide. We rarely communicate off thread. On the vast majority of occasions when we have it's been discussions about mutual experiences in Australia.

That is just typical ..... it's all about you! Without YOU and Pahitis I would be talking to myself ...... yes, it often ends up that way because of your 'thread destroying posts'. I was having no problems on this thread until you and your stooge entered into it. Does that not tell you something?

"We rarely communicate off thread. On the vast majority of occasions when we have ..... an oxymoron?

If you don't like either of our posts the solution is simple.

That is why you do what you do, destroy any opinion, by any means, that you disapprove of! You've done it before and where did it get you? That site is now as exciting as watching paint dry because nobody will discuss anything with you because they are inevitably put down by you with generous applications of superior toned sarcasm, when they counter your opinions ...... but of course you are too arrogant to see that!

You are though a person who's views are such that they attract "direct" answers. Your long experience of alienating people, having some leaving forums and many others simply deciding to avoid your obnoxious posts has surely shown you that? Despite, you've always seemed to maintain this odd positive perception of yourself. It's the complete opposite of reality though. Forum-wise you're one of nature's pariah

I don't seem to have problems on forum B and I post on various subjects and sometimes I do disagree with others! But NEVER do the exchanges end up the way they do when you and Paphitis are involved. I am the same person, with the same views and attitudes but only posts involving you inevitably deteriorate into a slanging match. Explain that!

Note HOW I reply ..... most often direct answers, paragraph by paragraph that way my replies remain in the context of the thread. Once again look at this post ........ my posts were perfectly normal, on thread and the exchanges were civil. Then look what happens when Paphitis starts posting and again at his posts after you interject? I respond to you two as you respond to me. My analysis of just this OP, but could apply to any in which you two are involved, is that it is very obvious where the 'obnoxiousness' originates.

ANYWAY ..... as far as I am concerned this thread is as dead as a DODO!

[CBBB]

I don't seem to have problems on forum B and I post on various subjects and sometimes I do disagree with others! But NEVER do the exchanges end up the way they do when you and Paphitis are involved. I am the same person, with the same views and attitudes but only posts involving you inevitably deteriorate into a slanging match. Explain that!

Because nobody else can be arsed to discuss with someone who is unwilling to accept other people's data.

[Robin Hood]

I don't seem to have problems on forum B and I post on various subjects and sometimes I do disagree with others! But NEVER do the exchanges end up the way they do when you and Paphitis are involved. I am the same person, with the same views and attitudes but only posts involving you inevitably deteriorate into a slanging match. Explain that!

Because nobody else can be arsed to discuss with someone who is unwilling to accept other people's data.

Interesting perception! WHAT DATA? On this thread, apart from the links and references in the text that I supply ...... the replies are ALL just opinion backed by opinion ......... and most of it way off thread.

[Londonrake]

I don't seem to have problems on forum B and I post on various subjects and sometimes I do disagree with others! But NEVER do the exchanges end up the way they do when you and Paphitis are involved. I am the same person, with the same views and attitudes but only posts involving you inevitably deteriorate into a slanging match. Explain that!

Because nobody else can be arsed to discuss with someone who is unwilling to accept other people's data.

There never is any "discussion". Despite his perennial cries of "victim" the nature of Hood's (or whatever) posts are such that conflict with those who have anything at all in the way of a difference of opinion is always a certainty. I've seen it so many times over so many years. Yet, no matter how much history repeats itself, the man - still - seems oblivious. It's not me!!!!