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[cyprusgrump]

I am tossing up whether or not to take my family there, and yes the gun violence is a concern. But you got to put it into perspective as well.
Americans are not a bunch of pussies like you lot that need to hold onto the EU apron strings.

I would have moved to the 'States when I left the UK without any question...

The only reason we didn't go (and moved to Cyprus instead) was that we both had elderly parents at the time...

In all of the dozens and dozens of trips I made all over the States I didn't see any crime at all - let alone gun crime. Detroit was supposedly the murder capital of the 'States when I was there for two weeks but I had no issues.

Indeed, if you work around the hysteria over gun crime the places with highest gun ownership have the lowest levels of crime of any sort.

[Paphitis]

I am tossing up whether or not to take my family there, and yes the gun violence is a concern. But you got to put it into perspective as well.
Americans are not a bunch of pussies like you lot that need to hold onto the EU apron strings.

I would have moved to the 'States when I left the UK without any question...

The only reason we didn't go (and moved to Cyprus instead) was that we both had elderly parents at the time...

In all of the dozens and dozens of trips I made all over the States I didn't see any crime at all - let alone gun crime. Detroit was supposedly the murder capital of the 'States when I was there for two weeks but I had no issues.

Indeed, if you work around the hysteria over gun crime the places with highest gun ownership have the lowest levels of crime of any sort.

yeh I know.

I literally don't see any difference as far as crime is concerned between them and Sydney and Melbourne.

You just don't go to the rough neighborhoods.

The chances of seeing any gun crime are pretty minuscule. There is law and order and their law enforcement is very visible and in control as well.

They are just copping a lot of flack because their gun laws are extremely liberal and free. But let's not forget they are a country of 350 million.

I'm not scared of the "crime" or the guns. I am more scared of not adjusting (to the pace) than anything else.

As for the rest of it. The USA is a great country with great opportunities.

The thing I like about the USA most of all, is the people. I really dig Americans. there is something about them. I find them really nice people and nicer than Australians generally speaking. Nicer than Europeans as well by a long way. They are forward thinking and fair.

As far as I am concerned, I think Americans are the best people in the world.

[Kikapu]

I am tossing up whether or not to take my family there, and yes the gun violence is a concern. But you got to put it into perspective as well.
Americans are not a bunch of pussies like you lot that need to hold onto the EU apron strings.

I would have moved to the 'States when I left the UK without any question...

The only reason we didn't go (and moved to Cyprus instead) was that we both had elderly parents at the time...

In all of the dozens and dozens of trips I made all over the States I didn't see any crime at all - let alone gun crime. Detroit was supposedly the murder capital of the 'States when I was there for two weeks but I had no issues.

Indeed, if you work around the hysteria over gun crime the places with highest gun ownership have the lowest levels of crime of any sort.

yeh I know.

I literally don't see any difference as far as crime is concerned between them and Sydney and Melbourne.

You just don't go to the rough neighborhoods.

The chances of seeing any gun crime are pretty minuscule. There is law and order and their law enforcement is very visible and in control as well.

They are just copping a lot of flack because their gun laws are extremely liberal and free. But let's not forget they are a country of 350 million.

I'm not scared of the "crime" or the guns. I am more scared of not adjusting (to the pace) than anything else.

As for the rest of it. The USA is a great country with great opportunities.

The thing I like about the USA most of all, is the people. I really dig Americans. there is something about them. I find them really nice people and nicer than Australians generally speaking. Nicer than Europeans as well by a long way. They are forward thinking and fair.

As far as I am concerned, I think Americans are the best people in the world.

Thank you, Paphitis for your kind !

[Lordo]

does anybody see the similarity between trum and this maniac. they both think the mexicans have invaded the country. i wonder if the the murderer read the lunatics ramblings.

[Paphitis]

I am tossing up whether or not to take my family there, and yes the gun violence is a concern. But you got to put it into perspective as well.
Americans are not a bunch of pussies like you lot that need to hold onto the EU apron strings.

I would have moved to the 'States when I left the UK without any question...

The only reason we didn't go (and moved to Cyprus instead) was that we both had elderly parents at the time...

In all of the dozens and dozens of trips I made all over the States I didn't see any crime at all - let alone gun crime. Detroit was supposedly the murder capital of the 'States when I was there for two weeks but I had no issues.

Indeed, if you work around the hysteria over gun crime the places with highest gun ownership have the lowest levels of crime of any sort.

yeh I know.

I literally don't see any difference as far as crime is concerned between them and Sydney and Melbourne.

You just don't go to the rough neighborhoods.

The chances of seeing any gun crime are pretty minuscule. There is law and order and their law enforcement is very visible and in control as well.

They are just copping a lot of flack because their gun laws are extremely liberal and free. But let's not forget they are a country of 350 million.

I'm not scared of the "crime" or the guns. I am more scared of not adjusting (to the pace) than anything else.

As for the rest of it. The USA is a great country with great opportunities.

The thing I like about the USA most of all, is the people. I really dig Americans. there is something about them. I find them really nice people and nicer than Australians generally speaking. Nicer than Europeans as well by a long way. They are forward thinking and fair.

As far as I am concerned, I think Americans are the best people in the world.

Thank you, Paphitis for your kind !

I'm not kidding Kikapu. I know Americans get caught in their own little world sometimes and get busy but they can literally be the most kind hearted people on the planet. It's something in their genes, who knows.

They are definitely the easiest to work with.

The differences between Americans and Australians or Europeans are stark. Firstly, they are straight shooters. They don't lie much. They don't bully or put people down. You can collaborate very easily with them. They are definitely not arrogant. It's very hard to explain.

French for instance, well don't get me started on them. Or the English and the friggin Scots. My God, but if you can shoot them you would. Same with the friggin Kiwis.

Australians are a bit better as a people and moving towards the Americans but they are not quite there yet. I don't know what makes the Americans the way they are but as far as I am concerned I am not surprised about all the things they have achieved because when they decide to do stuff they always do it big and they do it well as well.

I am not sure if you can call them genuine friends or if they are genuine or not. I suppose it depends where you live. New York would be different to Denver, Colorado for instance. Not as if Australians and Europeans are genuine these days. Most genuine people you will find in Australia are usually country people from the rural areas.

[Paphitis]

One thing I am completely confused with.

Why be opposed to the US and Mexican border wall? This wall would have a drastic affect on illegal gun smuggling and the supply of illegal arms into America along with many other things such as human trafficking and narcotics. The cartels are down there. And they are involved with smuggling people across the border as well.

So why oppose the wall?

Doesn't make any sense.

Seems to me that the wall is a lot more easier for the USG to build than to unilaterally change constitutional laws. There are 52 States in the union. Imagine telling some of them as the USG, oh btw Louisiana, we are going to tighten gun ownership laws. What do you think the response to that will be? It starts with F...

See folks, but this is where the democrats fall in a heap. They are willing to point fingers but why didn't Obama change gun laws? And if you are worried about gun crime then why the hell would you oppose the wall.

Nutsos!

You got to actually walk the walk as well. talk is cheap and meaningless.

[erolz66]

Why be opposed to the US and Mexican border wall? This wall would have a drastic affect on illegal gun smuggling and the supply of illegal arms into America along with many other things such as human trafficking and narcotics. The cartels are down there. And they are involved with smuggling people across the border as well.

So why oppose the wall?

Doesn't make any sense.

You are only confused because your belief that such a wall is a cost effective means of dealing with gun smuggling, human trafficking, drug smuggling and many other things is just wrong. There is no compelling evidence that it is a a cost effective means of dealing with these things. You are confused because you can not see that it was never about cost effective means of dealing with these things. It is all about using populism to gain and retain power.

[Lordo]

One thing I am completely confused with.

Why be opposed to the US and Mexican border wall? This wall would have a drastic affect on illegal gun smuggling and the supply of illegal arms into America along with many other things such as human trafficking and narcotics. The cartels are down there. And they are involved with smuggling people across the border as well.

So why oppose the wall?

Doesn't make any sense.

Seems to me that the wall is a lot more easier for the USG to build than to unilaterally change constitutional laws. There are 52 States in the union. Imagine telling some of them as the USG, oh btw Louisiana, we are going to tighten gun ownership laws. What do you think the response to that will be? It starts with F...

See folks, but this is where the democrats fall in a heap. They are willing to point fingers but why didn't Obama change gun laws? And if you are worried about gun crime then why the hell would you oppose the wall.

Nutsos!

You got to actually walk the walk as well. talk is cheap and meaningless.

those who do not learn from history are condemmed to repeat them.

ask the chinese to see if the wall stopped the mongols.

ironically of course trump taught at his university what to do about a wall.
"Is there a brick wall getting in your way? Fine. That happens. But you have a choice. You can walk away from the wall. You can go over the wall. You can go under the wall. You can go around the wall. You can also obliterate the wall. In other words, don't let anything get in your way. Get a balance, and then let the positive outdistance the negative."

that a wall will somehow stop the smugglers from crossing it is for simpletons. what it will do is push more innocent people into the hands of the smugglers or take a more dangerous route which will result in more deaths.

its not as if there are no example today of what happens when you make it more difficult for migrants to cross any border.

[Paphitis]

One thing I am completely confused with.

Why be opposed to the US and Mexican border wall? This wall would have a drastic affect on illegal gun smuggling and the supply of illegal arms into America along with many other things such as human trafficking and narcotics. The cartels are down there. And they are involved with smuggling people across the border as well.

So why oppose the wall?

Doesn't make any sense.

Seems to me that the wall is a lot more easier for the USG to build than to unilaterally change constitutional laws. There are 52 States in the union. Imagine telling some of them as the USG, oh btw Louisiana, we are going to tighten gun ownership laws. What do you think the response to that will be? It starts with F...

See folks, but this is where the democrats fall in a heap. They are willing to point fingers but why didn't Obama change gun laws? And if you are worried about gun crime then why the hell would you oppose the wall.

Nutsos!

You got to actually walk the walk as well. talk is cheap and meaningless.

those who do not learn from history are condemmed to repeat them.

ask the chinese to see if the wall stopped the mongols.

ironically of course trump taught at his university what to do about a wall.
"Is there a brick wall getting in your way? Fine. That happens. But you have a choice. You can walk away from the wall. You can go over the wall. You can go under the wall. You can go around the wall. You can also obliterate the wall. In other words, don't let anything get in your way. Get a balance, and then let the positive outdistance the negative."

that a wall will somehow stop the smugglers from crossing it is for simpletons. what it will do is push more innocent people into the hands of the smugglers or take a more dangerous route which will result in more deaths.

its not as if there are no example today of what happens when you make it more difficult for migrants to cross any border.

Oh dear I think you are very confused.

The wall isnt to inhibit legal crossings by individuals or trade, but as a deterrence and to inhibit and prevent illegal activities.

As such, it would have an affect on many things such as:
1) human trafficking which includes women who are sold on as "slaves" and put to work in red light establishments or who are vulnerable to exploitation because of their poverty,
2) the narcotics trade,
3) gun smuggling, and
4) illegal immigration.

So, we know that the wall will have some affect on illegal guns in the USA. We also know that it would most definitely save lives from the scourge of illegal narcotics.

So why oppose it? Why be against the wall.

A wall across a land border with CCTV and surveillance from Helicopters, Drones, and Border Patrols is the most effective means for the USA to secure its border and prevent a multitude of illegal activities which would save lives from narcotics and illegal guns. It would also pretty much put the cartels out of business along their border.

I suppose the Democrats don't want that!

21st century USA has nothing at all in common with the Great Wall or even Hadrian's Wall when the USA today has Helicopters, CCTV, satellites, Drones and Border Control Guards with the latest night visions and so on.

[Paphitis]

I mean I can understand the Chinese wanted to keep out the Mongolians but the Chinese didn't have the same technology available today unfortunately for them. Feel for them.

But let's be frank, with stupid ideas like that it is very difficult to take the Democrats seriously. The average American isn't stupid and can detect the bullshit especially when the Democrats call for gun control. yeh right! Sorry, but I can't take you idiots seriously at all.

Even if and when they win office, they will do nothing.

get ready for another Trump win...Trump has you all by the short and curlies. It's a pity they limit each US President to only 8 years because at this rate, Trump would be POTUS for the next 20 years.