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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:01 am

miltiades wrote:What do you know about the English mate? Maybe as much as I know about Aussies !!


Plenty!

Australia also has, the very same system of Government. It has the same Head of State (Queen Elizabeth), it has the same institutions, the union jack which basically connects Australia to Britain in a very close relationship.

It's not the only country connected at the hip. Canada and New Zealand are also and there are others as well.

As Britain actually founded Australia, I will tell you that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Australians are a very resourceful and proud lot so I am not surprised one bit that Britain wants out of the EU.

Can you imagine Australia have the immigration policies it does if you had some idiots in Strasbourg dictate the terms and laws of the country?

Britain from what I understand wants to implement Australian Immigration policies and it is its rights to do that as an independent country. The EU can take a hike if they don't like it. The EU will have no say in British Affairs soon enough.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Kikapu » Sun Sep 01, 2019 8:37 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:What do you know about the English mate? Maybe as much as I know about Aussies !!


Plenty!

Australia also has, the very same system of Government. It has the same Head of State (Queen Elizabeth), it has the same institutions, the union jack which basically connects Australia to Britain in a very close relationship.

It's not the only country connected at the hip. Canada and New Zealand are also and there are others as well.

As Britain actually founded Australia, I will tell you that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Australians are a very resourceful and proud lot so I am not surprised one bit that Britain wants out of the EU.

Can you imagine Australia have the immigration policies it does if you had some idiots in Strasbourg dictate the terms and laws of the country?

Britain from what I understand wants to implement Australian Immigration policies and it is its rights to do that as an independent country. The EU can take a hike if they don't like it. The EU will have no say in British Affairs soon enough.


UK will always need immigrants as long as it’s economy is doing well, whether they came from the EU member states easily or have gone through expensive applications process. In the end it makes no difference to the number of immigrants in the UK whichever system they will use to process them.

Let’s face it, Australia had one of the most racist immigration policies for the longest time where only whites were allowed to come. Has this policy changed? If it has, it can only be because they have more low income jobs which white immigrants would not take, so they are forced to bring in “niggers” as cheap Labour. I must say, I did not see very many non whites during my travels in Australia 3 years ago.

The EU is much more diverse with many nationalities and colour of skin. UK was just as a racist country too in the 70’s, but after joining the EU, they could not keep those racist policies in place. Out of the EU, we may see it coming back with the likes of the Brexiteers in charge and many of their followers. Already police have been given more powers by BJ to violate citizens Human Rights. It will only get worse when check and balances are gone when out of the EU.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Sun Sep 01, 2019 1:19 pm

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miltiades wrote:What do you know about the English mate? Maybe as much as I know about Aussies !!


Plenty!

Australia also has, the very same system of Government. It has the same Head of State (Queen Elizabeth), it has the same institutions, the union jack which basically connects Australia to Britain in a very close relationship.

It's not the only country connected at the hip. Canada and New Zealand are also and there are others as well.

As Britain actually founded Australia, I will tell you that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Australians are a very resourceful and proud lot so I am not surprised one bit that Britain wants out of the EU.

Can you imagine Australia have the immigration policies it does if you had some idiots in Strasbourg dictate the terms and laws of the country?

Britain from what I understand wants to implement Australian Immigration policies and it is its rights to do that as an independent country. The EU can take a hike if they don't like it. The EU will have no say in British Affairs soon enough.


UK will always need immigrants as long as it’s economy is doing well, whether they came from the EU member states easily or have gone through expensive applications process. In the end it makes no difference to the number of immigrants in the UK whichever system they will use to process them.

Let’s face it, Australia had one of the most racist immigration policies for the longest time where only whites were allowed to come. Has this policy changed? If it has, it can only be because they have more low income jobs which white immigrants would not take, so they are forced to bring in “niggers” as cheap Labour. I must say, I did not see very many non whites during my travels in Australia 3 years ago.

The EU is much more diverse with many nationalities and colour of skin. UK was just as a racist country too in the 70’s, but after joining the EU, they could not keep those racist policies in place. Out of the EU, we may see it coming back with the likes of the Brexiteers in charge and many of their followers. Already police have been given more powers by BJ to violate citizens Human Rights. It will only get worse when check and balances are gone when out of the EU.


The good thing with Australia's points system is that the immigration is specifically arranged in a fashion by way of a points system in order to attract qualified people in areas where there is a need or an economic benefit to Australia.

It's not an open borders type situation resulting in terrible ghettos like in London and other parts of Europe full of degenerate unemployed down and outs because they can't even speak a word of the local language.

Race has nothing to do with it.

Australia will take anyone as long as they tick the right boxes. Qualified people, and people already able to speak English have advantages. And that should be pure common sense to anyone.

I mean you can call us racist all you like as we don't want any ghettos here.

Oh and I am sorry, but no country does diversity and integration better than Australia, Canada and USA. We bring people we want here, not have a free for all. You are inviting people to your house. We do that well here, and you do that not so well in the EU.

So anytime the EU is ready, they can watch us and learn!

You can ask any country if they would prefer Australia's immigration policies to those of the EU, and even many EU members like Australia, Hungary, Slovenia, Serbia, Britain, and Italy will choose Australia's hands down.

And that is where the entire EU project will eventually collapse.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:22 pm

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miltiades wrote:Come what ....May the Clown is on his way, hammer and nails in his hands ready to bang away while he eats his ....hay, at the coffin that contains the nations of UK.
Oh well folks is there another way I hear you say ? Rule Brittania it no longer pertains to this once proud race, we are all fucked in a vicious way all in the name of .....BrexSHIT !!


The Brits are too too proud to be someone’s bitch!


Hello, my name is Mahyar Tousi O' Brexshitter. My folks, now populating half London, are too proud of a British to be someone's bitch

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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Kikapu » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:48 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:What do you know about the English mate? Maybe as much as I know about Aussies !!


Plenty!

Australia also has, the very same system of Government. It has the same Head of State (Queen Elizabeth), it has the same institutions, the union jack which basically connects Australia to Britain in a very close relationship.

It's not the only country connected at the hip. Canada and New Zealand are also and there are others as well.

As Britain actually founded Australia, I will tell you that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Australians are a very resourceful and proud lot so I am not surprised one bit that Britain wants out of the EU.

Can you imagine Australia have the immigration policies it does if you had some idiots in Strasbourg dictate the terms and laws of the country?

Britain from what I understand wants to implement Australian Immigration policies and it is its rights to do that as an independent country. The EU can take a hike if they don't like it. The EU will have no say in British Affairs soon enough.


UK will always need immigrants as long as it’s economy is doing well, whether they came from the EU member states easily or have gone through expensive applications process. In the end it makes no difference to the number of immigrants in the UK whichever system they will use to process them.

Let’s face it, Australia had one of the most racist immigration policies for the longest time where only whites were allowed to come. Has this policy changed? If it has, it can only be because they have more low income jobs which white immigrants would not take, so they are forced to bring in “niggers” as cheap Labour. I must say, I did not see very many non whites during my travels in Australia 3 years ago.

The EU is much more diverse with many nationalities and colour of skin. UK was just as a racist country too in the 70’s, but after joining the EU, they could not keep those racist policies in place. Out of the EU, we may see it coming back with the likes of the Brexiteers in charge and many of their followers. Already police have been given more powers by BJ to violate citizens Human Rights. It will only get worse when check and balances are gone when out of the EU.


The good thing with Australia's points system is that the immigration is specifically arranged in a fashion by way of a points system in order to attract qualified people in areas where there is a need or an economic benefit to Australia.

It's not an open borders type situation resulting in terrible ghettos like in London and other parts of Europe full of degenerate unemployed down and outs because they can't even speak a word of the local language.

Race has nothing to do with it.

Australia will take anyone as long as they tick the right boxes. Qualified people, and people already able to speak English have advantages. And that should be pure common sense to anyone.

I mean you can call us racist all you like as we don't want any ghettos here.

Oh and I am sorry, but no country does diversity and integration better than Australia, Canada and USA. We bring people we want here, not have a free for all. You are inviting people to your house. We do that well here, and you do that not so well in the EU.

So anytime the EU is ready, they can watch us and learn!

You can ask any country if they would prefer Australia's immigration policies to those of the EU, and even many EU members like Australia, Hungary, Slovenia, Serbia, Britain, and Italy will choose Australia's hands down.

And that is where the entire EU project will eventually collapse.


The point system is all very well for professional jobs, but when the state needs cheap labor to flip hamburgers, dishwashers, farm hands, picking vegetables and fruits and most any other manual laborers, the point system has very little value, so in effect, the point system is only a camouflage for choosing based on colour and nationality as to who are allowed to come in, in this case in Australia. I am not calling anyone racist, but just the governmental institutions setting up policies, which immigration is one of them, which can choose a white person over non white. Who can prove that the non white person did not tick all the boxes in the point system, and yet they can be passed over very easily. Only when labor is in very short supply, that non whites may be allowed to enter the country.

For many years the UK despite having had racist policies, they had no choice but to allow the Indians, Pakistanis, Cypriots, Africans, Jamaicans and people from other former colonies come in, because there were not enough white people wanted to come, so they let in more people from other non colonial countries too, like from Middle East. Countries like the USA and UK are built with the help of immigrants. Without “illegal” immigrants in the USA, the country couldn’t do without them, because no one else is going to come to the US to do back braking jobs for few dollars an hour. Trump’s “build the wall” plays well with his redneck followers, but in reality, it is all a big show. Stupid people exists everywhere who are lead by the nose whenever nationalism is played on them, and Brexit is no different.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Londonrake » Sun Sep 01, 2019 9:06 pm

You - talking about "racism"? Give me a break. :roll:

The problem with being in the EU is that absolutely everybody else there has the right to wander into the UK whenever they feel like it. And, it seems, many of them have.

Blair lied to us. When he decided to forgo the 7 year discretionary period - as exercised by the likes of Germany and France - that is, the right to prevent East Europeans coming to the UK unhindered. IIRC we were assured that the figures indicated that we could expect 13,000 Poles to turn up. The reality was that the UK ended up with 2.2 million immigrants in Mr Blair's reign (all Labour voters of course). It was running at a rate of 247,000 pa in his last year of office.

So, not really "racist". Just believing that actually we should be the ones to decide who's allowed in or not. Not some unelected fucking scribbler in Brussels. :wink:
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sun Sep 01, 2019 11:43 pm

Londonrake wrote:You - talking about "racism"? Give me a break. :roll:

The problem with being in the EU is that absolutely everybody else there has the right to wander into the UK whenever they feel like it. And, it seems, many of them have.

Blair lied to us. When he decided to forgo the 7 year discretionary period - as exercised by the likes of Germany and France - that is, the right to prevent East Europeans coming to the UK unhindered. IIRC we were assured that the figures indicated that we could expect 13,000 Poles to turn up. The reality was that the UK ended up with 2.2 million immigrants in Mr Blair's reign (all Labour voters of course). It was running at a rate of 247,000 pa in his last year of office.

So, not really "racist". Just believing that actually we should be the ones to decide who's allowed in or not. Not some unelected fucking scribbler in Brussels. :wink:


No unelected fucking scribbler in Brussels is deciding who's allowed in or not. The EU is about freedom of movement and settlement of ALL it's citizens. Sure you got more Polish than Germany, but if that was really a problem you could solve it by reducing the number of Pakistanis and Indians you let in.
The truth is the British became the biggest whiners in the EU.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migration ... _accession

As of 2013, the largest group of modern Polonia can be found in the United Kingdom (550,000),[17] followed by that in Germany (425,608).,[5][17] in France (350,000 as of 2012)
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Kikapu » Mon Sep 02, 2019 12:56 am

Londonrake wrote:You - talking about "racism"? Give me a break. :roll:

The problem with being in the EU is that absolutely everybody else there has the right to wander into the UK whenever they feel like it. And, it seems, many of them have.

Blair lied to us. When he decided to forgo the 7 year discretionary period - as exercised by the likes of Germany and France - that is, the right to prevent East Europeans coming to the UK unhindered. IIRC we were assured that the figures indicated that we could expect 13,000 Poles to turn up. The reality was that the UK ended up with 2.2 million immigrants in Mr Blair's reign (all Labour voters of course). It was running at a rate of 247,000 pa in his last year of office.

So, not really "racist". Just believing that actually we should be the ones to decide who's allowed in or not. Not some unelected fucking scribbler in Brussels. :wink:

Oh please, don’t act so shocked that many Brexiteers based their vote at the 2016 referendum overwhelmingly on immigration, especially the Polish being singled out as the most undesirable. The Turks got a bad rap by the present PM Boris Johnson as being the next potential 80 million more undesirables should Turkey become an EU member, regardless Turks being BJ’s ancestors, BJ played the race card with the Turks and the Poles. It is said that an apple doesn’t fall too far from the tree, apples being the Brexiteers, no matter which party they were supporting and naturally, not all apples are rotten to the core with racism, but by using the Poles and Turks who would take over the UK, people were either too stupid in believing what they were told, or that they too had certain degree of racism within themselves, just as the Brexit leaders were fanning the immigration racism fire.

It is also said that, if you sleep with dogs, you will get fleas. BJ and Farage are full of racism, most probably they are students of Enoch Powell and his “ Rivers of Blood" speech in 1968. Then again, racism was always in the British society, as it is in many countries. Why else would making racism illegal in the UK if there were no racism problems to begin with? Many British also took advantage of EU’s freedom of movement and moved to other EU member states, but you don’t see any other EU member states using immigrants from the UK for a reasons to leave the EU themselves.

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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Mon Sep 02, 2019 3:18 am

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
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miltiades wrote:What do you know about the English mate? Maybe as much as I know about Aussies !!


Plenty!

Australia also has, the very same system of Government. It has the same Head of State (Queen Elizabeth), it has the same institutions, the union jack which basically connects Australia to Britain in a very close relationship.

It's not the only country connected at the hip. Canada and New Zealand are also and there are others as well.

As Britain actually founded Australia, I will tell you that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Australians are a very resourceful and proud lot so I am not surprised one bit that Britain wants out of the EU.

Can you imagine Australia have the immigration policies it does if you had some idiots in Strasbourg dictate the terms and laws of the country?

Britain from what I understand wants to implement Australian Immigration policies and it is its rights to do that as an independent country. The EU can take a hike if they don't like it. The EU will have no say in British Affairs soon enough.


UK will always need immigrants as long as it’s economy is doing well, whether they came from the EU member states easily or have gone through expensive applications process. In the end it makes no difference to the number of immigrants in the UK whichever system they will use to process them.

Let’s face it, Australia had one of the most racist immigration policies for the longest time where only whites were allowed to come. Has this policy changed? If it has, it can only be because they have more low income jobs which white immigrants would not take, so they are forced to bring in “niggers” as cheap Labour. I must say, I did not see very many non whites during my travels in Australia 3 years ago.

The EU is much more diverse with many nationalities and colour of skin. UK was just as a racist country too in the 70’s, but after joining the EU, they could not keep those racist policies in place. Out of the EU, we may see it coming back with the likes of the Brexiteers in charge and many of their followers. Already police have been given more powers by BJ to violate citizens Human Rights. It will only get worse when check and balances are gone when out of the EU.


The good thing with Australia's points system is that the immigration is specifically arranged in a fashion by way of a points system in order to attract qualified people in areas where there is a need or an economic benefit to Australia.

It's not an open borders type situation resulting in terrible ghettos like in London and other parts of Europe full of degenerate unemployed down and outs because they can't even speak a word of the local language.

Race has nothing to do with it.

Australia will take anyone as long as they tick the right boxes. Qualified people, and people already able to speak English have advantages. And that should be pure common sense to anyone.

I mean you can call us racist all you like as we don't want any ghettos here.

Oh and I am sorry, but no country does diversity and integration better than Australia, Canada and USA. We bring people we want here, not have a free for all. You are inviting people to your house. We do that well here, and you do that not so well in the EU.

So anytime the EU is ready, they can watch us and learn!

You can ask any country if they would prefer Australia's immigration policies to those of the EU, and even many EU members like Australia, Hungary, Slovenia, Serbia, Britain, and Italy will choose Australia's hands down.

And that is where the entire EU project will eventually collapse.


The point system is all very well for professional jobs, but when the state needs cheap labor to flip hamburgers, dishwashers, farm hands, picking vegetables and fruits and most any other manual laborers, the point system has very little value, so in effect, the point system is only a camouflage for choosing based on colour and nationality as to who are allowed to come in, in this case in Australia. I am not calling anyone racist, but just the governmental institutions setting up policies, which immigration is one of them, which can choose a white person over non white. Who can prove that the non white person did not tick all the boxes in the point system, and yet they can be passed over very easily. Only when labor is in very short supply, that non whites may be allowed to enter the country.

For many years the UK despite having had racist policies, they had no choice but to allow the Indians, Pakistanis, Cypriots, Africans, Jamaicans and people from other former colonies come in, because there were not enough white people wanted to come, so they let in more people from other non colonial countries too, like from Middle East. Countries like the USA and UK are built with the help of immigrants. Without “illegal” immigrants in the USA, the country couldn’t do without them, because no one else is going to come to the US to do back braking jobs for few dollars an hour. Trump’s “build the wall” plays well with his redneck followers, but in reality, it is all a big show. Stupid people exists everywhere who are lead by the nose whenever nationalism is played on them, and Brexit is no different.


So that’s what it’s all about Kikapu.

Cheap Labour. We have hundreds of thousands of under utilized blue collar workers as we speak. We can employ them first.

We don’t want cheap labour to undermine worker rights.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby miltiades » Mon Sep 02, 2019 6:38 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:What do you know about the English mate? Maybe as much as I know about Aussies !!


Plenty!

Australia also has, the very same system of Government. It has the same Head of State (Queen Elizabeth), it has the same institutions, the union jack which basically connects Australia to Britain in a very close relationship.

It's not the only country connected at the hip. Canada and New Zealand are also and there are others as well.

As Britain actually founded Australia, I will tell you that the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Australians are a very resourceful and proud lot so I am not surprised one bit that Britain wants out of the EU.

Can you imagine Australia have the immigration policies it does if you had some idiots in Strasbourg dictate the terms and laws of the country?

Britain from what I understand wants to implement Australian Immigration policies and it is its rights to do that as an independent country. The EU can take a hike if they don't like it. The EU will have no say in British Affairs soon enough.

Well you ....obviously know a lot more about the English that I managed to learn living amongst them for almost 60 years, having an English wife for 46 years, a father in law than when told I came from Cyprus three me out, he did not like .....terrorists !!
I went school in London, college, set up business employed English. An English sister in law, a daughter in law and numerous relatives, yet a guy who has never lived or worked in England knows far more than I ever managed to learn., I must confess that your in depth knowledge not only on the English but on just about everything else amazes me. !! Is there a subject that you aren't conversant with ?
Maybe ....cricket ???
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