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[Lordo]

Taking a Parliamentary decision to the courts is in itself wrong.

The courts don't run the country and by doing this and even following any direction that the court may issues is a major cause of concern.

Just think how government can now be blocked from decisions by say someone like Gina Miller taking it to court and contesting it. It may not get there so fast next time!!!

This is clearly a breach of constitutional order by any standards.

The irony is of course that the courts represent the Crown, and the Crown made the original decision so what are we saying here, the court has high power than the Queen now????

Can't wait to hear what they have to say. Imagine if they found in BoJo's favour, does that mean Yfuck needs to eat ALL of his words

there is time when you have to stop being an asshole. prorogation is fine so long as it is applied correctly. let me explain the difference between prorogation and recess.

recess is taking a girl into your room
prorogation is faqing her.

now just because she came into your room does not mean you can faq her. no means no. as mike tyson found out.

if manchild wanted to have a reces he could have proposed it. the preoblem with that is that unless the parliament votes for it it cann be applied. considering the delecate time we are in and all the scrutiny needed for brexit the parliament would have voted to have recess after november which would have been doable.

in stead manchild decided to use prorogation which should never be more than 5 days for the queens speech to force parliament to close for recess against it will. this is the same as rape in parliamentary terms.

the reason why no minister would sign a written statement that 5 weeks was needed for prorogation is beause all the evidence in the emails would show that it was silencing the parliament. and the swine who signed and handed it to the scottish court or the supreme court woul dwind up someby's birch in prison. which is why even the supreme court does not have it.

i don't know who yfuck is but if you had one millionth os his mentality you would be twice as good as you are. so go faq yourself boy.

[Paphitis]

Taking a Parliamentary decision to the courts is in itself wrong.

The courts don't run the country and by doing this and even following any direction that the court may issues is a major cause of concern.

Just think how government can now be blocked from decisions by say someone like Gina Miller taking it to court and contesting it. It may not get there so fast next time!!!

This is clearly a breach of constitutional order by any standards.

The irony is of course that the courts represent the Crown, and the Crown made the original decision so what are we saying here, the court has high power than the Queen now????

Can't wait to hear what they have to say. Imagine if they found in BoJo's favour, does that mean Yfuck needs to eat ALL of his words

there is time when you have to stop being an asshole. prorogation is fine so long as it is applied correctly. let me explain the difference between prorogation and recess.

recess is taking a girl into your room
prorogation is faqing her.

now just because she came into your room does not mean you can faq her. no means no. as mike tyson found out.

if manchild wanted to have a reces he could have proposed it. the preoblem with that is that unless the parliament votes for it it cann be applied. considering the delecate time we are in and all the scrutiny needed for brexit the parliament would have voted to have recess after november which would have been doable.

in stead manchild decided to use prorogation which should never be more than 5 days for the queens speech to force parliament to close for recess against it will. this is the same as rape in parliamentary terms.

the reason why no minister would sign a written statement that 5 weeks was needed for prorogation is beause all the evidence in the emails would show that it was silencing the parliament. and the swine who signed and handed it to the scottish court or the supreme court woul dwind up someby's birch in prison. which is why even the supreme court does not have it.

i don't know who yfuck is but if you had one millionth os his mentality you would be twice as good as you are. so go faq yourself boy.

And it was applied correctly.

You can’t prove a double negative as the UK Government has every right to ask the Queen for an overdue suspension of Parliament to outline its own agenda.

[Kikapu]

Taking a Parliamentary decision to the courts is in itself wrong.

The courts don't run the country and by doing this and even following any direction that the court may issues is a major cause of concern.

Just think how government can now be blocked from decisions by say someone like Gina Miller taking it to court and contesting it. It may not get there so fast next time!!!

This is clearly a breach of constitutional order by any standards.

The irony is of course that the courts represent the Crown, and the Crown made the original decision so what are we saying here, the court has high power than the Queen now????

Can't wait to hear what they have to say. Imagine if they found in BoJo's favour, does that mean Yfuck needs to eat ALL of his words

there is time when you have to stop being an asshole. prorogation is fine so long as it is applied correctly. let me explain the difference between prorogation and recess.

recess is taking a girl into your room
prorogation is faqing her.

now just because she came into your room does not mean you can faq her. no means no. as mike tyson found out.

if manchild wanted to have a reces he could have proposed it. the preoblem with that is that unless the parliament votes for it it cann be applied. considering the delecate time we are in and all the scrutiny needed for brexit the parliament would have voted to have recess after november which would have been doable.

in stead manchild decided to use prorogation which should never be more than 5 days for the queens speech to force parliament to close for recess against it will. this is the same as rape in parliamentary terms.

the reason why no minister would sign a written statement that 5 weeks was needed for prorogation is beause all the evidence in the emails would show that it was silencing the parliament. and the swine who signed and handed it to the scottish court or the supreme court woul dwind up someby's birch in prison. which is why even the supreme court does not have it.

i don't know who yfuck is but if you had one millionth os his mentality you would be twice as good as you are. so go faq yourself boy.

And it was applied correctly.

You can’t prove a double negative as the UK Government has every right to ask the Queen for an overdue suspension of Parliament to outline its own agenda.

You don’t need to prove double negative, just circumstantial evidence of intent is enough to convict, even in criminal cases.

[Paphitis]

Taking a Parliamentary decision to the courts is in itself wrong.

The courts don't run the country and by doing this and even following any direction that the court may issues is a major cause of concern.

Just think how government can now be blocked from decisions by say someone like Gina Miller taking it to court and contesting it. It may not get there so fast next time!!!

This is clearly a breach of constitutional order by any standards.

The irony is of course that the courts represent the Crown, and the Crown made the original decision so what are we saying here, the court has high power than the Queen now????

Can't wait to hear what they have to say. Imagine if they found in BoJo's favour, does that mean Yfuck needs to eat ALL of his words

there is time when you have to stop being an asshole. prorogation is fine so long as it is applied correctly. let me explain the difference between prorogation and recess.

recess is taking a girl into your room
prorogation is faqing her.

now just because she came into your room does not mean you can faq her. no means no. as mike tyson found out.

if manchild wanted to have a reces he could have proposed it. the preoblem with that is that unless the parliament votes for it it cann be applied. considering the delecate time we are in and all the scrutiny needed for brexit the parliament would have voted to have recess after november which would have been doable.

in stead manchild decided to use prorogation which should never be more than 5 days for the queens speech to force parliament to close for recess against it will. this is the same as rape in parliamentary terms.

the reason why no minister would sign a written statement that 5 weeks was needed for prorogation is beause all the evidence in the emails would show that it was silencing the parliament. and the swine who signed and handed it to the scottish court or the supreme court woul dwind up someby's birch in prison. which is why even the supreme court does not have it.

i don't know who yfuck is but if you had one millionth os his mentality you would be twice as good as you are. so go faq yourself boy.

And it was applied correctly.

You can’t prove a double negative as the UK Government has every right to ask the Queen for an overdue suspension of Parliament to outline its own agenda.

You don’t need to prove double negative, just circumstantial evidence of intent is enough to convict, even in criminal cases.

First of all, Boris was a newly formed Government that took over from Theresa May. A Government with a new direction and a new agenda.


This administration has every right to prorogue parliament and request a Queens's Speech to roll out its new agenda. parliament was already going to suspend in any case for 4 weeks and the act to prorogue would only add an additional 5 days to what was already scheduled. If Boris wanted to, he could have suspended parliament until the 2nd of November. I in fact believe this is what he should have done. He didn't. he left ample opportunity to allow parliament to sit.

These court challenges are designed to undermine his administration and the mandate of the British people.

As for criminal convictions. I got to take my hat off to Boris because he has gone to the EU and stuck to his guns. In other words, Britain is out of the EU on the 31st of October. That might land him in legal strife. i don't know but there is no other option. As a patriot and as a fighter looking after British people and the interests of his country, he is bound to execute all his actions in the interests of Britain and maintain the best negotiating position he can manage in order to achieve the best deal possible and that means he needs to prepare Britain for a NO DEAL brexit and accept all the consequences that may come his way. He will earn the respect and support of the majority of British people if he does that and that is worth accepting any consequences that come his way.

and because of his strategy, he is much closer to getting an acceptable deal for Britain. Even if he does not achieve that, it is likely negotiations will continue after Brexit and that in the meantime trade will continue under WTO Article 24.

[Paphitis]

The EU have finally got that message and for the first time the Germans and Junker are running scared and don’t want a WTO brexit.

One German MEP said that the cost to the German economy is tens of thousands of jobs.

They also indicated deep regret and indicated that even if there is a no deal brexit, the EU and Britain will continue with negotiations which also means trade will continue as is in the near term.

It's quite natural to show concern when someone's intending to commit suicide.
Undoubtedly it's going to cost everyone something, however the biggest losers by a margin will be the British themselves.
Of course there's going to be some trade deal after a no deal Brexit, under conditions of despair in the UK. Don't hold your breath it will be any better than Theressa May's deal.

There is no suicide here.

What the EU is worried about is the fact that Britain could actually become more competitive outside of the EU. This is what I believe would happen.

Believe me, there will be no suicide here. Free Trade will continue and if you do not believe me, then ask the Germans and Junker.

But Britain will have something the rest of the EU do not. For starters, they maintain their Crown and institutions. Big tick there.

They maintain their pound and fiscal independence. Big tick there. Cyprus is not fiscally or financially independent.

And thirdly, Britain is free to negotiate free trade terms with third countries like USA, Canada and Australia. Cyprus isn't allowed to do that.

All I can see is plenty of upside.

Suicide is a complete lie. I mean let's look at the facts as they stand TODAY. Who has the stronger economy? Is Britain at the front of the pack yes or no?

Also, Britain has a lot of manufacturing still. They build a lot of things such as cars, planes, weapons, frigates, submarines, steel and lots more. The only manufacturing that has been lost is the kind of manufacturing they have sent to the Far East to utilize cheap labor to maximize corporate profits. Germany has lost these types of manufacturing as well. this is what is occuring in every developed economy including Cyprus.

But speaking of suicide - please explain to me the suicide of Greece and Cyprus. Oh right well you think it's their fault. Well ok then, please explain the suicide of Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland. is that their fault too? Or is there something much deeper at play here? I mean Italy is the home of Ferrari and Lamborghini. They are no fools.

I think Britain should be more concerned about the EU 27 committing suicide because the EU has a long history of disastrous economic crashes and meltdowns. You are a ticking time bomb and not only that but when Cyprus abolished the pound to adopt the Euro, the criminals in the ECB wiped out a total of 20% of the pound in another haircut during the exchange crossover which no one talks about. Cyprus got shortchanged worth many Billions of pounds and not just that, it surrendered its monetary independence at the same time. I always remembered that when I was watching the transfer take place and the arithmetic was out by 20%. Why? And why do you fools accept this shit and just bend over and take it?

What were you imbeciles actually thinking?????

Not only did Cyprus suicide, but literally jumped into the abyss...

And fancy abolishing the Cyprus pound. I mean, what a big mistake that was.

[cyprusgrump]

The British people ??
Are the N.Irish and Scotts not British people you thick kangaroo brain moron.
37.8% if the British electorate who voted leave doesnt mean thw British people or the will of the people. As your admiration of
Farage you myst be a bigger arsehole than he is.

Perhaps you can complete your sojourn into the complex world of statistics and tell us what %'age voted Remain...?

Why dont you remove that stupid bucket from your head, give your solitary brain cell some oxygen then you can work it out and let us all know ! What an absolute Plonker!

What a tediously boring and repetitive old man you are...

I've realised it was a mistake calling you CoCo, from now on I'm going to call you Albert...

[miltiades]

The British people ??
Are the N.Irish and Scotts not British people you thick kangaroo brain moron.
37.8% if the British electorate who voted leave doesnt mean thw British people or the will of the people. As your admiration of
Farage you myst be a bigger arsehole than he is.

Perhaps you can complete your sojourn into the complex world of statistics and tell us what %'age voted Remain...?

Why dont you remove that stupid bucket from your head, give your solitary brain cell some oxygen then you can work it out and let us all know ! What an absolute Plonker!

What a tediously boring and repetitive old man you are...

I've realised it was a mistake calling you CoCo, from now on I'm going to call you Albert...

The effect the bucket is having on your single brain cell is far more severe than I thought !! What a stupid thing to do. Were you born stupid or did you study stupidity and gained a degree !!

[cyprusgrump]

The British people ??
Are the N.Irish and Scotts not British people you thick kangaroo brain moron.
37.8% if the British electorate who voted leave doesnt mean thw British people or the will of the people. As your admiration of
Farage you myst be a bigger arsehole than he is.

Perhaps you can complete your sojourn into the complex world of statistics and tell us what %'age voted Remain...?

Why dont you remove that stupid bucket from your head, give your solitary brain cell some oxygen then you can work it out and let us all know ! What an absolute Plonker!

What a tediously boring and repetitive old man you are...

I've realised it was a mistake calling you CoCo, from now on I'm going to call you Albert...

The effect the bucket is having on your single brain cell is far more severe than I thought !! What a stupid thing to do. Were you born stupid or did you study stupidity and gained a degree !!

[Pyrpolizer]

The EU have finally got that message and for the first time the Germans and Junker are running scared and don’t want a WTO brexit.

One German MEP said that the cost to the German economy is tens of thousands of jobs.

They also indicated deep regret and indicated that even if there is a no deal brexit, the EU and Britain will continue with negotiations which also means trade will continue as is in the near term.

It's quite natural to show concern when someone's intending to commit suicide.
Undoubtedly it's going to cost everyone something, however the biggest losers by a margin will be the British themselves.
Of course there's going to be some trade deal after a no deal Brexit, under conditions of despair in the UK. Don't hold your breath it will be any better than Theressa May's deal.

There is no suicide here.

What the EU is worried about is the fact that Britain could actually become more competitive outside of the EU. This is what I believe would happen.

Believe me, there will be no suicide here. Free Trade will continue and if you do not believe me, then ask the Germans and Junker.

But Britain will have something the rest of the EU do not. For starters, they maintain their Crown and institutions. Big tick there.

They maintain their pound and fiscal independence. Big tick there. Cyprus is not fiscally or financially independent.

And thirdly, Britain is free to negotiate free trade terms with third countries like USA, Canada and Australia. Cyprus isn't allowed to do that.

All I can see is plenty of upside.

Suicide is a complete lie. I mean let's look at the facts as they stand TODAY. Who has the stronger economy? Is Britain at the front of the pack yes or no?

Also, Britain has a lot of manufacturing still. They build a lot of things such as cars, planes, weapons, frigates, submarines, steel and lots more. The only manufacturing that has been lost is the kind of manufacturing they have sent to the Far East to utilize cheap labor to maximize corporate profits. Germany has lost these types of manufacturing as well. this is what is occuring in every developed economy including Cyprus.

But speaking of suicide - please explain to me the suicide of Greece and Cyprus. Oh right well you think it's their fault. Well ok then, please explain the suicide of Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland. is that their fault too? Or is there something much deeper at play here? I mean Italy is the home of Ferrari and Lamborghini. They are no fools.

I think Britain should be more concerned about the EU 27 committing suicide because the EU has a long history of disastrous economic crashes and meltdowns. You are a ticking time bomb and not only that but when Cyprus abolished the pound to adopt the Euro, the criminals in the ECB wiped out a total of 20% of the pound in another haircut during the exchange crossover which no one talks about. Cyprus got shortchanged worth many Billions of pounds and not just that, it surrendered its monetary independence at the same time. I always remembered that when I was watching the transfer take place and the arithmetic was out by 20%. Why? And why do you fools accept this shit and just bend over and take it?

What were you imbeciles actually thinking?????

Not only did Cyprus suicide, but literally jumped into the abyss...

And fancy abolishing the Cyprus pound. I mean, what a big mistake that was.

The best Britain can hope for is zero tariffs. Which I doubt will happen for all products.
As for striking new trade deals, good luck with that. Be careful not to end up to even higher trade deficit than what you have today.

As for why some countries in the EU are not doing well, it's not because of the Euro, neither because of the EU.
If it were so, then all of them would have already left the EU and the Eurozone.
Simply put all those countries which had light industries or even heavy industries that couldn't survive the payroll (=higher cost of living) and at the same time couldn't introduce modernization simply closed down. This is what happened in Lisbon's as well as in Greece Skaramanga Shipbuilding yards. The Japanese took over. Similarly for all light industries, I remember some 30 years ago Cyprus had more than 15 factories making shoes including BATA. Not even one today, the Chinese took over. Same with our clothing industry e.g Jet was once a colossus today we import everything from China and some from Italy. These happened long time before we joined the EU.
China also makes cheap Photovoltaic panels. Yet Siemens in Germany beats the Chinese not only in quality but with breath taking automation, even the packing and labeling is done by robots. Google Siemens PV factory to learn more.

Where did you come up with that idea that we lost 20% of our money when we joined the Euro?
Give me links.
For a start the CY Pound was never an independent currency. For as long as I remember it was linked with the STG, the Deutch Mark (which then became Euro) and the US$. It's exchange rate was made up using a formula by the Central Bank.
I personally was importing a lot of German goods paying in DM, some from Italy paying in Italian Lira, and some from UK paying in STG.
I noticed absolutely no change at the cost prices when the Euro was introduced in Germany and Italy. And absolutely no change (actually I had some very light decrease because of customs savings) when Cyprus eventually joined the Euro.
If what you said were true then people would exchange their CY pounds with STG or US $ rather than converting to Euro at a fixed exchange rate.

[Paphitis]

The EU have finally got that message and for the first time the Germans and Junker are running scared and don’t want a WTO brexit.

One German MEP said that the cost to the German economy is tens of thousands of jobs.

They also indicated deep regret and indicated that even if there is a no deal brexit, the EU and Britain will continue with negotiations which also means trade will continue as is in the near term.

It's quite natural to show concern when someone's intending to commit suicide.
Undoubtedly it's going to cost everyone something, however the biggest losers by a margin will be the British themselves.
Of course there's going to be some trade deal after a no deal Brexit, under conditions of despair in the UK. Don't hold your breath it will be any better than Theressa May's deal.

There is no suicide here.

What the EU is worried about is the fact that Britain could actually become more competitive outside of the EU. This is what I believe would happen.

Believe me, there will be no suicide here. Free Trade will continue and if you do not believe me, then ask the Germans and Junker.

But Britain will have something the rest of the EU do not. For starters, they maintain their Crown and institutions. Big tick there.

They maintain their pound and fiscal independence. Big tick there. Cyprus is not fiscally or financially independent.

And thirdly, Britain is free to negotiate free trade terms with third countries like USA, Canada and Australia. Cyprus isn't allowed to do that.

All I can see is plenty of upside.

Suicide is a complete lie. I mean let's look at the facts as they stand TODAY. Who has the stronger economy? Is Britain at the front of the pack yes or no?

Also, Britain has a lot of manufacturing still. They build a lot of things such as cars, planes, weapons, frigates, submarines, steel and lots more. The only manufacturing that has been lost is the kind of manufacturing they have sent to the Far East to utilize cheap labor to maximize corporate profits. Germany has lost these types of manufacturing as well. this is what is occuring in every developed economy including Cyprus.

But speaking of suicide - please explain to me the suicide of Greece and Cyprus. Oh right well you think it's their fault. Well ok then, please explain the suicide of Italy, Spain, Portugal and Ireland. is that their fault too? Or is there something much deeper at play here? I mean Italy is the home of Ferrari and Lamborghini. They are no fools.

I think Britain should be more concerned about the EU 27 committing suicide because the EU has a long history of disastrous economic crashes and meltdowns. You are a ticking time bomb and not only that but when Cyprus abolished the pound to adopt the Euro, the criminals in the ECB wiped out a total of 20% of the pound in another haircut during the exchange crossover which no one talks about. Cyprus got shortchanged worth many Billions of pounds and not just that, it surrendered its monetary independence at the same time. I always remembered that when I was watching the transfer take place and the arithmetic was out by 20%. Why? And why do you fools accept this shit and just bend over and take it?

What were you imbeciles actually thinking?????

Not only did Cyprus suicide, but literally jumped into the abyss...

And fancy abolishing the Cyprus pound. I mean, what a big mistake that was.

The best Britain can hope for is zero tariffs. Which I doubt will happen for all products.
As for striking new trade deals, good luck with that. Be careful not to end up to even higher trade deficit than what you have today.

As for why some countries in the EU are not doing well, it's not because of the Euro, neither because of the EU.
If it were so, then all of them would have already left the EU and the Eurozone.
Simply put all those countries which had light industries or even heavy industries that couldn't survive the payroll (=higher cost of living) and at the same time couldn't introduce modernization simply closed down. This is what happened in Lisbon's as well as in Greece Skaramanga Shipbuilding yards. The Japanese took over. Similarly for all light industries, I remember some 30 years ago Cyprus had more than 15 factories making shoes including BATA. Not even one today, the Chinese took over. Same with our clothing industry e.g Jet was once a colossus today we import everything from China and some from Italy. These happened long time before we joined the EU.
China also makes cheap Photovoltaic panels. Yet Siemens in Germany beats the Chinese not only in quality but with breath taking automation, even the packing and labeling is done by robots. Google Siemens PV factory to learn more.

Where did you come up with that idea that we lost 20% of our money when we joined the Euro?
Give me links.
For a start the CY Pound was never an independent currency. For as long as I remember it was linked with the STG, the Deutch Mark (which then became Euro) and the US$. It's exchange rate was made up using a formula by the Central Bank.
I personally was importing a lot of German goods paying in DM, some from Italy paying in Italian Lira, and some from UK paying in STG.
I noticed absolutely no change at the cost prices when the Euro was introduced in Germany and Italy. And absolutely no change (actually I had some very light decrease because of customs savings) when Cyprus eventually joined the Euro.
If what you said were true then people would exchange their CY pounds with STG or US $ rather than converting to Euro at a fixed exchange rate.

There will be no Tariffs on EU and British goods.

The EU will not countenance the loss of its biggest trader within the EU. Not that there ill be a loss, there will only be a small decline in trade of a few percent which will hit both sides and Germany is not going to fall by the wayside here because of any pride. Capitalism will always prevail. the money will always talk. There will be a trade deal but what Britain needs to do is strengthen its bargaining power and Boris is doing just that.

Secondly, Britain gains a lot from BREXIT. It ensures the maintenance of its political institutions, its Central bank monetary independence and it can enter into trade deals as an independent sovereign country with other third countries like Australia and USA.

No EU members have that.

I never said there was a change when buying any goods. If anything, maybe things became slightly cheaper by 1 or 2%.

But there was a shortchanging in the conversion rate between the Cyprus Pound to Euro and that was very significant. I can't remember the figures exactly, but if the pound was worth nearly 2 euros, Cyprus only got 1.60 Euros per pound on the conversion. I never forgot that and was wondering what that was all about.

You abolished your pound and surrendered all control. Britain does not want to and will never do that. I respect the UK for this. They are holding onto their institutions and don't want to surrender any control. You got to understand that and respect it.