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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 20, 2019 7:12 am

Dual British/Australian citizen and Australian University of Melbourne academic and expert on the Middle East has been missing for more than 12 months.

Only in the last few days has Iran admitted that Kylie Moore Gilbert is in an Iranian Political Prison on charges of espionage.

This poor girl is in an Iranian Prison on trumped up charges. Would in an incredibly wonderful human being she is.



The EU finds these types of things as being acceptable it would seem.

Is it any wonder WHY the Brits want out of this traitorous organisation that is the EU?



This is an organization that places money and trade ahead of its own people. Money ahead of its own morals and the rule of law.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:30 am

What a blatantly stupid analogy.only a fucking idiot would say this !
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Paphitis » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:40 am

miltiades wrote:What a blatantly stupid analogy.only a fucking idiot would say this !


Perfectly valid because what the EU has done is betray its very own member state by not standing up to Iran for the illegal incarceration of American, British, Australian and Canadian Citizens.

The Australian academic is also a British National and hence an EU citizen for the time being.

The EU needs to re-calibrate exactly on whose side they are on.

the EU can not have it both ways and close their eyes when Iran illegally arrests innocent citizens and innocent people or intercept British Shipping through the Straits of Homuz in International waters.

Even one of the British MEPs made a statement calling out the EU's total hypocrisy in the so called Euro pseudo parliament.

If the EU is not prepared to support the interests of its members and stand up against this injustice, then here is no point being a member of the EU as the EU is just a void and empty vessel.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby B25 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 8:52 am

Paphiti, the corrupt EU is doing the same to Cyprus, never mind an Aussie citizen.

A member state held under illegal occupation, what have they done for us? Sweet F A that's what.

Don't hold your breath for her, poor woman.

Three Kurdish Majors have been imprisoned, where is the F MSM has this been reported, where is the EU to speak up for H R and Turkey is a F candidate country FFS.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:08 am

CAMERON CALLS FOR REMAINERS TO ACCEPT REFERENDUM RESULT


Last night’s The Cameron Years on BBC1 is well worth a watch. The hour long programme ends with a surprisingly impassioned rallying call from the former Prime Minister for Remainers to stop trying to cancel the result of the referendum…

“But of course in the end, the country voted to leave. You might not like that and I might not like that, and many people watching this programme may think that was the wrong choice. But we are a democracy.

We decided to hold a referendum, we voted in an election for a party that wanted a referendum, we voted nine out of ten MPs for a referendum, we held the referendum. That’s the choice that we made, and that is the future for Britain.

That is something that can be delivered, that should be delivered, and it can be made to work.”


Elsewhere in the documentary, Cameron was keen to slay the Remainer myth that he only called the referendum for ‘party management’ reasons. He emphasised that there was a clear problem with the UK’s relationship with the EU that needed to be solved, and that every major party at some point in the last fifteen years promised a referendum on Europe. The hypocrisy of people who voted for a referendum but now try to claim it should never have happened is far worse than any of Cameron’s failings…


Even Cameron gets it... :wink:
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby erolz66 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:24 am

A deal based exit on the 31st is looking increasingly likely as can be seen in the market price of sterling.

The question is will such a deal satisfy enough of the extreme end of the leave spectrum ? Certainly Farage will claim that it is not really leaving, does not deliver on the 2016 referendum result and is a stitch up by the political elite and is BINO etc etc. Johnson will claim it is a great deal that does take the UK out of the EU and does deliver on the 2016 referendum result.

So what do the 'leave' supporters here think I wonder ? Will the Johnson deal deliver on the result of the referendum for you or not ?
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby Londonrake » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:34 am

erolz66 wrote:A deal based exit on the 31st is looking increasingly likely as can be seen in the market price of sterling.


Reading between the lines, I doubt it will happen. If it should though, whatever form it takes, I'd be surprised if it wasn't voted down by this parliament.

This won't be settled until after a General Election (if even then). Should we still be in the EU when that - finally! - takes place it's anybody's guess what the result might be.

After the past 3 years I certainly wouldn't trust any of the main parties to deliver on Brexit. Whatever lies they had in their 2017 election manifestos. I will believe them when it happens.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby miltiades » Fri Sep 20, 2019 10:47 am

Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:What a blatantly stupid analogy.only a fucking idiot would say this !


Perfectly valid because what the EU has done is betray its very own member state by not standing up to Iran for the illegal incarceration of American, British, Australian and Canadian Citizens.

The Australian academic is also a British National and hence an EU citizen for the time being.

The EU needs to re-calibrate exactly on whose side they are on.

the EU can not have it both ways and close their eyes when Iran illegally arrests innocent citizens and innocent people or intercept British Shipping through the Straits of Homuz in International waters.

Even one of the British MEPs made a statement calling out the EU's total hypocrisy in the so called Euro pseudo parliament.

If the EU is not prepared to support the interests of its members and stand up against this injustice, then here is no point being a member of the EU as the EU is just a void and empty vessel.

You are NOT qualified to judge the EU or anything else for that matter since you are
The forums idiot. Anyone who is on record stating that he hates Putin more than he hates ISIS as well as calling the EU criminals , not forgetting that he considers WW3 as not a bad idea also that the CNG can defeat Turkey must be a naive idiot. So shut up before i Lose my ...cool.
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:19 am

miltiades wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
miltiades wrote:What a blatantly stupid analogy.only a fucking idiot would say this !


Perfectly valid because what the EU has done is betray its very own member state by not standing up to Iran for the illegal incarceration of American, British, Australian and Canadian Citizens.

The Australian academic is also a British National and hence an EU citizen for the time being.

The EU needs to re-calibrate exactly on whose side they are on.

the EU can not have it both ways and close their eyes when Iran illegally arrests innocent citizens and innocent people or intercept British Shipping through the Straits of Homuz in International waters.

Even one of the British MEPs made a statement calling out the EU's total hypocrisy in the so called Euro pseudo parliament.

If the EU is not prepared to support the interests of its members and stand up against this injustice, then here is no point being a member of the EU as the EU is just a void and empty vessel.

You are NOT qualified to judge the EU or anything else for that matter since you are
The forums idiot. Anyone who is on record stating that he hates Putin more than he hates ISIS as well as calling the EU criminals , not forgetting that he considers WW3 as not a bad idea also that the CNG can defeat Turkey must be a naive idiot. So shut up before i Lose my ...cool.


Calm down Albert... :roll: :lol:

Albert Steptoe wrote:Now here is my prediction. Boris has a much chance of entering number 10 as I have. Jeremy Hunt will be the next PM



:lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Brexit: just a reminder

Postby erolz66 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 11:21 am

Londonrake wrote:
erolz66 wrote:A deal based exit on the 31st is looking increasingly likely as can be seen in the market price of sterling.


Reading between the lines, I doubt it will happen. If it should though, whatever form it takes, I'd be surprised if it wasn't voted down by this parliament.

This won't be settled until after a General Election (if even then). Should we still be in the EU when that - finally! - takes place it's anybody's guess what the result might be.

After the past 3 years I certainly wouldn't trust any of the main parties to deliver on Brexit. Whatever lies they had in their 2017 election manifestos. I will believe them when it happens.


Feels like you have avoided the question ? Did you as a leave voter consider TM withdrawal deal to have 'delivered on the ref result' or not or to have been a betrayal of it ? If not how much change would you need to that deal before it would for you be compatible with having delivered on the result of the referendum ? Could any thing other than a no deal exit have delivered on the result of the ref for you ?
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